Spiral Knights - Possible changes to improve Winmillion.

Possible changes to improve Winmillion.

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lun, 07/15/2013 - 02:42

Terra-Necro

We all know Winmillion isn't exactly the best weapon ingame, and we probably think it is the worst. I came up with some possible ways to improve the weapon, and I would like everyone to give their opinion on these possible tweaks.

1. Increase range of projectiles (the projectiles shot from the Winmillion during each swing has a longer range, perhaps the range of the bullet shot during a wrench wand charge attack?)

2. Increase projectile speed

3. Increase both the range and speed of the winmillion charge attack projectile, while also slightly increasing its charge attack damage so it is more useful.

4. Perhaps add a chance to stun (like the chance to stun for a Daring Rigadoon) for regular Winmillion projectiles only, and add a slightly better chance to stun on the charge attack projectile. [My reason for suggesting stun proc for the sword is because, even if you can stun someone with it, the damage from the regular swings would obviously not kill someone]

5. (This is purely for fun, and would most likely make the sword a bit op) Make the projectile from the charge attack create a vortex (just like that of EV) whenever the projectile hits an enemy. The only difference would be that no status would be applied. Just some damage when the vortex collapses.

Thanks in advance to everyone who posts.

lun, 07/15/2013 - 07:11

Klipik-Forum

but

You still couldn't use it as a sword without everything dodging around everywhere. :(

lun, 07/15/2013 - 07:27

Waffleconecake

;-; I love u winmillion, just not on a Seerus level mate.

We really only need to buff the range on it, the thing is meant to be the sword for pure swordsmen to hit switches from a distance but here is the thing, currently the charge attack for the wrench wand is better for hitting ranged switches then Winmillion as it is smaller, faster, and longer ranged then the winmillion.

lun, 07/15/2013 - 07:37

Little-Juances

Winmillion is so bad it can't even win the title of "worst weapon"
http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Cautery_Sword

lun, 07/15/2013 - 10:49

Qwez

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"1. Increase range of projectiles (the projectiles shot from the Winmillion during each swing has a longer range, perhaps the range of the bullet shot during a wrench wand charge attack?)"
No thanks, plenty of range. I'd rather not have my damage reduced or attack speed reduced or make this a gun.

"2. Increase projectile speed"
I'm perfectly fine with the projectile speed. Why do you think you need more projectile speed? Because you aren't hitting the enemy that's dodging? Don't you know where the enemy will dodge to?

"3. Increase both the range and speed of the winmillion charge attack projectile, while also slightly increasing its charge attack damage so it is more useful."
I don't need more numbers or range and speed. There's a deadspot exactly 1 block away from the player at which a Retrode or Zombie or something similar dodges the charge attack completely without moving. Fix that.

"4. Perhaps add a chance to stun (like the chance to stun for a Daring Rigadoon) for regular Winmillion projectiles only, and add a slightly better chance to stun on the charge attack projectile. [My reason for suggesting stun proc for the sword is because, even if you can stun someone with it, the damage from the regular swings would obviously not kill someone]"
"...damage from the regular swings would obviously not kill someone." "...would obviously not kill someone." "...not kill someone." "...someone." is this a PvP or PvE co-op game?

"5."

"We really only need to buff the range on it, the thing is meant to be the sword for pure swordsmen to hit switches from a distance but here is the thing, currently the charge attack for the wrench wand is better for hitting ranged switches then Winmillion as it is smaller, faster, and longer ranged then the winmillion."
"smaller, faster, and longer ranged then the winmillion"
I'll assume that you meant something else... Smaller model size? Yes, Faster attack speed? No, you need to charge up every time for a shot... Longer range? Yes. I don't see how the Wrench Wand is better though, get a gun for distance... can't use the Wrench Wand for T3 fighting.
"hit switches from a distance"
Eh you want a gun? Use a gun. Don't expect a sword to be a gun.

lun, 07/15/2013 - 11:15

Levenzaa

How about we just don't improve it or use it? It's only normal damage, and I highly doubt many other people will get one if OOO add a 5* version.

Winmillion - Forever alone.

-Potato

lun, 07/15/2013 - 13:37

Terra-Necro

These are just suggestions

These are just suggestions that I have gathered from my fellow guild members.

and yes, I do know, Qwez, when enemies will dodge. Do not think I made this thread without having knowledge of, and owning, said weapon.
Not American, so don't hate on my poor english and overabuse of the word, "someone".

Also, the increase damage to the charge attack was my own personal idea, based on the fact that the damage dealt from the charge itself is very low, compared to even the cautery sword charge.

lun, 07/15/2013 - 15:00

Waffleconecake

@Qwez

I was talking about the projectile on the wrench wand's charge attack, it is smaller, faster, and has longer range then the winmillion. I was using it a example of how flawed the thing is for what it is intended for, a utility sword for pure swordsmen.

mar, 07/16/2013 - 09:52

Qwez

@Terra-Necro: In that paragraph I quoted, there was one instance of you saying "someone." I was pointing out how #4 was a suggestion to balance Winmillion off of PvP through emphasising "someone." This game is first and foremost a PvE game, unless that changes in future updates.

@Waffleconecake: Okay, you believe the Winmillion is a flawed utility sword.

mar, 07/16/2013 - 10:07

Waffleconecake

Qwez

glad you finally found that one out -rolls eyes-

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