Spiral Knights - Buy a peronal color and un-equip/re-equip it

Buy a peronal color and un-equip/re-equip it

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Fri, 07/19/2013 - 02:16

Orangeo

I think that, for 100,000 crowns, you should be able to add a color to your "color inventory". Your color inventory stores all the colors you have, and you can switch between them freely like an item. If you buy a color for 50,000 crowns, it will replace a color you already owned, as opposed to being added into a new slot, much in the way colors work now.

When buying a color, you will be asked if you want to replace a current color, or purchase an additional one. Since this is slightly more complex than a typical purchase, it might be wise to make a new merchant for this.

Colors can be sold back for 50,000 crowns, half the price they were bought for, but you always have to own one color.

Thoughts?

Fri, 07/19/2013 - 04:04

Skyga

Hi there,

First I'd like to say that I would also kinda appreciate to change my personal colour without buying a new one for 50k cr and then be bound to it.... So I pretty much like your idea.

But I see a little problem here, which will - I think - keep the programmers from putting in this feature.
Personal colours are implemented for good reasons:
-You can make your knight look a bit better for yourself.
-You can have an (at least a bit) individual style.
-Other people can kinda identify you when seeing your personal colour.

And this last two points are, where I see the problem here. When you can easily change your personal colour a lot of times, just from the one second to another, and change it back when you want and so on.... there is nothing remaining that makes you a little special, and helps others to identify you.

So don't get me wrong, I pretty much like your idea and so I will place my little, formal +1 here, but I just think that this is a thing, that will never be implemented for above reasons and so I see bad chances, that your courage will help anything.
However keep suggesting things, I'm tired of people, just doing nothing to make a game a(n even) better one, and then cry, because they don't like something...

Fri, 07/19/2013 - 05:31

Sketchturner

I find that the current

I find that the current system is superior for a couple reasons:

1 - it's intended as a cr sink, if you regret the colour you chose you can replace it

2 - your colour identifies your character some what, so really you shouldn't want to change the colour so much as you don't have any other distingusing features other than the colour, you have no hair style or anything just accessories which can also easily change, in guild runs you'd want to look at your mini map and recognise which colour is who rather than "who was pink again? was that darius? or did he change back to green?"

as much as changing your character when you want is nice, you do need something that makes you stand out, or you're just another face in the crowd, and generally just a name doesn't cut it.

Fri, 07/19/2013 - 06:01

Blitzsonic

I posted the idea of a color

I posted the idea of a color and a eye accessory that could be attached to armor and helmets, wouldn't this work better ?

Fri, 07/19/2013 - 06:08

Sketchturner

hmm more accessory I think

hmm more accessory I think are really unneeded, however would suit the colour changing that the OP wants a lot better then changing them out constantly which changes the mini map one to I'd say

Fri, 07/19/2013 - 06:29

Orangeo

I've just got too many

I've just got too many costumes!

For example, right now I'm blue to match my arcane salamander armor with prismatic wings. It looks perfect and I regret nothing. However, I have lots of costumes that looked great in my original color, orange, such as my gold regalia that I'd spent good money on. Though I'm not going to pay 50,000 crowns just to look good in something I already bought, and then pay another 50,000 to go back to my other costume.

As for eyes, I wouldn't treat eyes the way I'm treating colors right now. I kinda wish there were less types of eyes, but each eye-type would change into different types of current eyes depending on what the player is doing. An obvious example would be having X eyes if you're knocked out as opposed to purchasing X eyes from the store and wearing them around haven. If you were to buy a new type of eye, you might have + shapes while you're passed out instead. Of course, I'm not going to complain about the current system since it sinks more crowns than what I just said would.

However, the system I've proposed for color would sink more crowns than the current one. Currently I've only changed my color once, and I spent 50,000 to do it. If I'd been given the choice to pay twice as much for the freedom to switch back and fourth, I'dve definitely spent 100,000 crowns instead of just 50,000. If I were to change my color back to orange, I'd spend another 50,000, totaling to the same 100,000 crown total that would have been spent if my suggestion was in place, but I'm not going to spend that much money to buy back something I spend the same amount of money on getting rid of. In other words, the current system won't make me spend as many crowns as the proposed system would.

Fri, 07/19/2013 - 08:26

Skyguarder

The reason why OOO didn't add a way to save your colors is because they want to make a crown sink instead of trying to collect every color and then you have nothing to do with your crowns.

Fri, 07/19/2013 - 08:35

Little-Juances

Well at least your starter color could be permanent. Like add an option to Bechamel that says "clean makeup" for free.

Fri, 07/19/2013 - 08:43

Ink-Incorporated

I'd only buy one of these so people aren't colorist to me.

People got mad at me for being yellow so they wanted me to leave.

Fri, 07/19/2013 - 08:58

Little-Juances

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpiIWMWWVco

Fri, 07/19/2013 - 12:30

#10

Orangeo

"The reason why OOO didn't

"The reason why OOO didn't add a way to save your colors is because they want to make a crown sink instead of trying to collect every color and then you have nothing to do with your crowns."

Errm, I just said that my version would be a greater crown sink. Look at this part of my last post;

"Currently I've only changed my color once, and I spent 50,000 to do it. If I'd been given the choice to pay twice as much for the freedom to switch back and fourth, I'dve definitely spent 100,000 crowns instead of just 50,000. If I were to change my color back to orange, I'd spend another 50,000, totaling to the same 100,000 crown total that would have been spent if my suggestion was in place, but I'm not going to spend that much money to buy back something I spend the same amount of money on getting rid of. In other words, the current system won't make me spend as many crowns as the proposed system would."

The "Clean makeup" thing wouldn't let me go back and fourth over and over. I'd never really use it.

Fri, 07/19/2013 - 16:03

#11

Waffleconecake

not really orangeo, the crown

not really orangeo, the crown sink that can keep going longer is the better one, people could still buy every color, just for more.
Even if you are paying more for it, the ability to get every color still remains, meaning once someone buys them all they no longer will be paying for them. If they could not then this person would need to pay for every switch, more crowns are spent over time.

Sat, 07/20/2013 - 00:12

#12

Orangeo

...but it won't keep going

...but it won't keep going longer. Right now with the 50,000 system, I'm no longer buying them even though I can't change back. I've only spent 50,000, and I'll never spend a crown more. However, I would have spent twice as much if I was given the option to buy a color as an item.

Noone's willing to pay for every switch. That's why the current system will never sink as many crowns. You don't make more money just by making people pay more often. They're just not going to pay at all, and less crowns will be sunk. I'm sure the vast majority of players who buy colors only change once, and even if most of them switched once and then back again, my system still sinks as many crowns as that if they buy a color-item.

I mean really, by your logic, we could sink more crowns by making everyone pay 10,000 crowns each time they entered their guild hall. People enter their guildhalls allot, right? So they would pay 10,000 crowns multiple times a day, right? And spending 10,000 crowns multiple times a day sinks lots of money. Though there's one problem. Noone would enter guild halls because of that. Ever. So less crowns would be sunk.

Sat, 07/20/2013 - 01:56

#13

Coelydragon

Why not just make it an uber expensive accessory for armors? Like 70k to attach a color to an armor. I don't think this idea is viable but I don't have any solid reasons against it yet.

Sat, 07/20/2013 - 06:44

#14

Blitzsonic

Adding a accessory for less

Adding a accessory for less than 50,000 would work, the personal color useable changes it for every armor, while the accessory changes it for only 1 selected armor/helmet, it would be good if we would have a eye accessory to this too.

Sun, 07/21/2013 - 07:53

#15

Orangeo

Attaching colors to

Attaching colors to helms/armor wouldn't work since you could equip an orange helmet with a blue body. Eyes could possibly work that way, but since color affects both items and not just the helmet, equipping it like an accessory creates a problem with consistency.

Plus you have to figure out how the items initial color gets selected. Does equipped armor just take the last color you had? If that were the case, I could just buy a blue color, equip all my blue armor, then buy an orange color and equip all my orange armor. Much less expensive than paying for each piece. Same goes for eyes. Do you not have eyes if you don't attach anything? You could go with default eyes or sell a few free eyes, but with colors that wouldn't work since there is no default color or starter color.

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