Spiral Knights - swiftstrike upgrade ; 1v1, free-for-all, and custom matches in LD ; other ideas ; nerfs/buffs ; provide feedback?

swiftstrike upgrade ; 1v1, free-for-all, and custom matches in LD ; other ideas ; nerfs/buffs ; provide feedback?

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Fri, 07/19/2013 - 13:51

Bullpig

please don't bombard me with negative comments saying "this has already been said before stfu", i will ignore those ♡

~;; i think OOO needs to add a 4 star version of swiftstrike buckler to the game. just a little more health and normal defense is all i'm asking. the design should be the 3 star version, with a bigger swirly thing on it and make it prismatic (*o* ). they could make the current 3 star version offer only asi low or asi med, and then put asi high or med on the 4 star version. they should also implement a balancing system for lockdown; this way there won't be a team filled with nobs vs a team of all pros. they could do this by making portfolios for each player; recording each players highest damage, most caps, and most defends. (<-- please give suggestions on this)

~;; i also think they should add 1v1s, free-for-alls, and custom matches to lockdown. (idea taken from @reblades and expounded upon by me). starting with the 1v1, give each player triple the health (for longer lasting fights), no health pads (so the matches aren't forever), and give each player a set number of lives (3 is always a good number). for the free-for-all it could be along the same lines with he extra health for longer lasting battles but i do say there should be some objective in these matches. you could bring in the capturing from standard lockdown, but make the cap time shorter to about 3 seconds or something. ALSO, gvg, 1v1, free-for-alls, and custom matches, you and others should be able to bet on players/ teams. make everything more interesting, and safer than saying "if i win you owe me 10k and if i lose i'll give you 10k" [these players cannot be trusted ('-' ) ]
custom matches; letting the players choose what weapons and uvs and trinkets the group/individuals will be able to use. that way, the poor spiral knight players will be able to show their skill on an even playing field. no krogmo coins would have to be provided; it would be just for fun (that's the only reason i play lockdown anyway)

small ideas:
~ more events! they actually make me want to do PvE
~ tracking certain uvs would be great, and to make it even better, certain uvs on certain weapons and armors. {i.e.: wolver coats with piercing high}
~ 1v1/ free-for-all/ custom matches in lockdown would be the greatest thing ever. i have some ideas { v }

nerfs:
~ divine avenger/ gran faust (mainly in PvP)
~ skolver (should have less freeze resist)
~ brandish line (idk just do something about them for crying out loud)

buffs:
~ rigadoon and flamberge (greater chance of status pl0x)
~ dread venom striker and wild hunting blade (dealing more damage)
~ shard bombs

i think i covered everything ('o' )
*waves*
*can't stop waving*
*cuts of arm*

Fri, 07/19/2013 - 14:07

Gzilla

@Bull

A swiftstrike buckler at 4* with universal ASI would be too OP. The reason Swiftstrike is kept at 3* is to balance it. If people want the ASI boost, they need to deal with the weaker shield. Shard bombs should just have invinci-frames removed. DA and GF are fine where they are. If someone set up a 1 v 1 they could just go against one of their alts and up their LD score.

Fri, 07/19/2013 - 14:21

Little-Juances

So now a DA is considered OP?

As for skolver, it has the same amount of status resist as most other 5* armor with an ability.
(vog, mercurial, all gunslinger, bombastic, volcanic demo, both chromalisks, etc). How is it unbalanced?

Fri, 07/19/2013 - 15:49

Bullpig

@Gzilla & @Little-Juances

~;; @Gzilla

"A swiftstrike buckler at 4* with universal ASI would be too OP. The reason Swiftstrike is kept at 3* is to balance it. If people want the ASI boost, they need to deal with the weaker shield."

i feel like you're stalking me ('-' ). anyway, i'm mainly looking for a change in look and a little more health a little a tiny bit like a pip. and i can dodge fairly well so i don't need the update, but it would be nice, would it not? or are you completely against anything that's there to help you out. probably.

"DA and GF are fine where they are."

oh really? go to T2 lockdown and play for a while then transfer to T3. what i see it this: 1 or 2 people fencing, a few misc. players, and then the rest are gf/da combo spammers. most of them just swing in random directions with aa on and somehow get a hit on you. either the range or the damage needs to be nerfed some. lockdown to me should be more about skill and less about power. i stand firm on that opinion.

"If someone set up a 1v1 they could just go against one of their alts and up their LD score."

OMFG seriously enough with this statement. what does that even mean? who cares about your lockdown score?? i'm saying to set it up for FUN. you know what fun is? probably not considering how many times you've responded to my posts and been negative about almost everything. with the 1v1 you would both pay entrance fee and that's it. winner gets 280, loser gets nothing, like normal lockdown. you get no rank points ok. let me repeat that: NO RANK POINTS INVOLVED. just fun. mkay?

~;; @Little-Juances

"So now a DA is considered OP?"

to me it's always been OP in PvP. i find it obsolete in any PvE though. but in lockdown you'll find at least 6 people using it and just swinging aimlessly at the air until they hit you. usually that would be easy to counter because they're vulnerable at that moment of the last swing, but the range of the swing is so large it's fairly hard to dodge, especially when everyone has aa on. but i guess it's not that OP. i mean it's not like it's super fast combo can kill you instan- oh wait.. it can and it DOES. weird right? i would prefer hammers everywhere. much easier to dodge.

"As for skolver, it has the same amount of status resist as most other 5* armor with an ability.
(vog, mercurial, all gunslinger, bombastic, volcanic demo, both chromalisks, etc). How is it unbalanced?"

fair point. i only say this because freeze is used more often than, idk, let's say poison, fire, curse, stun, the list goes on for a few more but i think you get the point. freeze and shock are the main status effects used. don't argue with me there because i know the others get used but we're talking about the typical ones, not the exceptions okay. i don't care if you use poison and stun, you aren't the majority. freeze is used less than shock though, but that should be lowered on armors too. if you don't think so that's fine everyone is entitled to their opinion {including me}. if i'm not wrong then just don't bother responding, if i am wrong, then you can respond to correct me, otherwise i think we both agree to disagree. and btw i never said "unbalanced". where did you get that from?

☼♡ have a nice day folks ☼♡

Fri, 07/19/2013 - 16:07

Hearthstone

They were just offering insights... You didn't need to OMFG it up.

Anyways they've posted the reasons why I would -1 this.

Fri, 07/19/2013 - 16:16

Bullpig

@Skye-Lightning

i'm getting tired of defending myself, but i will do so again. i didn't "OMFG it up" on them. i said OMFG once because he has said the same thing to me 3 times and is missing the key information: you won't get rank points for 1v1. i'm not angry at all when i say omfg i'm just saying it so he can get the point. i appreciate feedback but when it's pointless and is untrue, i like to set things straight. and i'd rather you -1 me for just not liking my ideas rather than using their reasons because A, that's just plain lazy of you and B, their reasons were not very good. but i must keep in mind that everyone is entitled to their own opinion, so thank you for sharing bro.

Fri, 07/19/2013 - 16:23

Gzilla

@Bull

Even then, people can farm crowns with alts, slowly gaining crowns by wining match after match. I also think you need to calm down. I never directly said any of your ideas sucked or been downright negative, you just went super defensive and started insulting me. Seriously, we're not out to get you, just trying to offer criticism. People post things on the suggestion forum to share them and to see what people think.

EDIT: "Not very good reasons" Bull, seriously the GF and DA aren't OP. I could understand something like the polaris or toothpicks but the DA and GF are balanced. They have good range, but they swing slow. The swiftstrike is also fine where it is. It's perfectly usable in T3. A buff to it is unnecessary since it's balanced as it is. It's meant to be weak since it gives you ASI. Not all weapons can be amazing with no drawbacks, that just breaks the game and ruins the fun.

Fri, 07/19/2013 - 16:43

Bullpig

@Gzilla

sorry i know i come off a bit sassy but it's just a defense mechanism that's part of my instincts. i always see kids knocking and bashing on ideas that aren't horrible, but they find something wrong with them and just pick at that, making the original poster not want to post ever again. i couldn't tell if you or little-juances were doing that. anyway.

"Even then, people can farm crowns with alts, slowly gaining crowns by wining match after match."

i see what you mean, but alts usually get their money from the main account. so the alt would be paying 200 crowns to give the main a profit of 80 (but since the alt and main are the same person, the main is losing 120 crowns each round). they could just trade the money which would be a much better method of crown transfer. if this money thing is still a problem after all i have said, then let's just forget i suggested it. the whole 1v1 thing can just be free and for fun.

"I also think you need to calm down. I never directly said any of your ideas sucked or been downright negative, you just went super defensive and started insulting me. Seriously, we're not out to get you, just trying to offer criticism. People post things on the suggestion forum to share them and to see what people think."

i probably do need to calm down and i apologize for "lashing out" at you. i realize you never said that you think they suck, but i never said that you said that. i simply wanted to get a point across by using a lot of condescension and sarcasm. my point that was so important to me was that no rank points would be awarded to the winner, and i am grateful for your feedback about that, because i didn't see it at first. and i did post this to see what people think, but usually i just prefer snowballs; when people go off my ideas or give other ideas to incorporate. i really don't need grammar nazis or idea nazis or perfectionist nazis to post on my thread about everything wrong i wrote.

"EDIT: "Not very good reasons" Bull, seriously the GF and DA aren't OP. I could understand something like the polaris or toothpicks but the DA and GF are balanced. They have good range, but they swing slow."

like i said i stand firm on this. no skill involved and i can prove it, but there is no need. and for the speed, it's called asi. most people have it. and they aren't that slow to start out with. anyway i think the subject of how "OP" something is, is mostly opinion but i bring facts to the table. if they miss then they're screwed, but if they hit you with the first swing, there's almost no time to do anything before the second swing comes crashing into your knight. polaris i can rage at but not too much and i don't believe it needs a nerf. picks are the epitome of lockdown in my opinion, but that's just me. clearly, most people would argue with me there. oh well. sorry for anything offensive i wrote. feel free to call me out on it.

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