I've put money into this game before multiple times, it didn't feel necessary; just a nice addition. This seems like it'll make it so spiral knights will only be any good for people who pay from now on.

If I'm going to be forced to pay, i think I'll go play final fantasy 11 or 14.

still find the game fun, just another challange to work thru

Not spending anymore actual money, only using mist from now on and crafting nothing while hoarding all my CR at least until they fix this crap.

That's my plan and if nothing is done with in a week or two I'll probably have found something else to play so either way, meh.

I'm good with it for now. The devs are likely going to read this and hopefully make some adjustments to reduce some of the complaints; I'm patient and I'm not a power player anyhow, so what happens happens.

I'm not going anywhere.

I bought enough CE to get me 5* UV gear in every slot when the game went live, I don't have a single recipe learned, and no plans to ever buy one. So the crafting thing doesn't have any effect on me whatsoever.. crafting is pretty much for suckers.

I still have fun for 2-4 hours a day using the free energy to adventure.. the only thing this patch did for me is give me a way to unload my hundreds of mats so I can make a little extra CE.

Great patch! Five stars!

I was a self-sustaining player, but this absolutely crippled me. There's no way that running JK or Hellfire will turn a profit now, especially looking at the prices of 4 and 5* mats on the AH. Essentially, if you want to play like I do, you need crystal energy, and this patch has made it impossible to get without spending real money. So I'm quiting.

wont quit, just wont play as much.

paying player to free player in 1 update.
will also be spending much more time back on dofus instead of here. starting to think of my original idea of subscribing there before i got told to play this.

on a side note, im not longer crafting random free items to giveaway.
glad i got all but 2 of my items 5* before this crap.

I mean, now my progression is way slower. Oh well. I really like the general addicting combat in this game. I'll keep playing as long as my friends do too.

-srry, double post-

I'm going to check back in a few weeks to see if any progress has been made... I have my finals starting up, so i was going to use SK to pass some time by imbetween classes and study sessions. Seeing as that's outta the question I guess I will have to lug my laptop down and see how Nexon has treated Maple Story or Vindictus.

I was so attached to this game too... t.t

Though I did run into random bugs today, like being stuck on the same depth and unable to progress deeper, the game is still fun at its core. So I'll stick around until things settle a bit.

No company is going to shoot themselves in the foot knowingly. They obviously made these changes based on their data and the direction they want their game to go in. I'm going to have faith, based on the current gameplay, that the game they're working towards is ultimately the game I want to play.

I really really really liked this game and my friends did too, but to progress any farther along with my friends would take an amount of grinding that I'm not willing to put in as I'm not about to spend 10-20$ to craft a few pieces of armor.

If only this game had been a stand-alone game I'd have bought it for 15-20$ on steam straight up and played with my friends but as it stands now I can't really progress with the game limiting how much you can play without buying Crystal Energy. Further straining that by forcing anyone who wants to advance to spend tons of CE to craft their next armor.

Crystal Energy isn't infinite to buy with crowns. Three Rings realizes this. By increasing how much crafting costs, they're going to diminish how much CE exists and force people to buy it even more often. They're trying to make more money (looks like about twice as much as they were before according to previous alchemy costs) and make it harder to reach tier 3.

pffft i'll always be here =D
i got my gear i wanted already, and i can't just leave my main social networking site.

I'll probably continue to play the game off an on. I certainly won't be spending any more money on it, though. I had spent a little money, and I used the CE to commission some 5* equipment, which I will now not be able to receive. Moreover, since much of the materials and alchemy fees I gave my friends to craft me these items have already gone into the 4* versions, much of the value has already been effectively destroyed--they literally cannot return my stuff to me. Three Rings' decision has, in a very real sense, robbed me of the product I purchased from them, with no warning and no hope for recompense. As long as I can continue to run the clockworks for mist energy, I'll do so--it's still fun--but I'd be a fool to buy more product from a company who has shown such a willingness to steal that product back from me.

@BachJS

Actually, Old players who already have 5* only lost the ability to trade, while new players got the AH from where they can buy a 2* equipment in basically a day or two. It's the intermediate players (like me) who have been REALLY screwed over. Once you actually got your T2 access set there's either a few months of grind before T3, or at least... let me count... 200+400=600 energy for a 4* (you probably won't kill Vanaduke without a pair of 5* weapons but w/e), means 1600-2000Ce to get into T3. How much is that in $ again? a full 5* would cost another 4000CE on top of that (not to mention the 25k CR).

Semi-staying...for now.
SK was getting really really fun with them file replacements and swapping, but now...eh
I bought recipes that I can't even use now.
If anything, a 25% cost decrease would've been better than a 100% increase.

@MeSako - people will -NOT- adapt. No one should even have a concern for cash, hence their FREE TO PLAY advertisement. And how is crafting for others related to cash? It's NOT just ENERGY that's the problem. Everyone past 3* is pretty much part of a single player game now. We can't share any recipes, we only get recipes for ourselves. What's the point of having recipes now? Everything's a factor, regardless of how much you like the game, there's no point if the game is going to go down. Only wasted time. Why waste time on something dying? Not everyone will.

Also, has anyone even bothered crafting a 5* after the patch? Or even a 4*?

Probably going to ditch the game after a week, if nothing happens.

Probably will be forced to spend money if I want to continue playing at my current pace, but to me it's worth it.

I've Been Playing this for a month or more and in 1 week im in 5* gear I admit it didnt take me long to made it in tier 3 but instead of making items harder to get why not increase it items standard into 10*? and increase dificulty up to tier 5. More Boss and More items and PVP may attract more players. But im not going to quit im still playing. but on the other hand i understand the dev side.

To be honest I suspect that the ranting and complaining on the forums is going to be pretty much ignored. What Three Rings will do is look at how this patch impacts their revenue, and revise things based on that. If it brings in more money than the previous state of affairs they'll stick with it, if revenue drops they'll try something else.

At the end of the day they're a business, with employees and costs and stuff. While they love making games, they also love being able to pay their bills and not have their things repossessed. So they need to find a way to give players a fun and enjoyable game in a way that allows them to make enough money to keep making games. The micropayment model requires a fair bit of trial and error until they find the sweet spot at which both the players and the accountants are happy.

may still play but wont be spending money nemore.

@majic13

considering the current state, their revenues will most likely go down.

Those who loved the game before will stay.. those who leave never cared anyway, they just wanted somthing to do without any concern for there cash..

I loved the game. I dumped cash on it; a lot of cash. If Three Rings doesn't fix the situation, my friends are likely to leave, and I'll leave with them. It doesn't matter that I can afford the game; if the other two Crusaders aren't there, I don't feel like being there without them.

Plus, well, this update makes a player who dumped $40 a month on the game think twice about spending CE at all. That's either really right or really wrong, but either way, it leads to less cash the next month for Three Rings' pockets.

@SwordSaint

I'm not so sure. The game is still pretty new, and the player base is still expanding as word spreads. While those who are embittered about this new stuff might quit, they will be quickly replaced by new players who don't have experience of the old system to compare things to, and who will thus probably not think it's that big a deal.

In any case I expect there will be a lot of tweaking and fine-tuning of the CE costs for stuff in order to find a balance point that best suits both OOO and the player base's needs.

@ajericho

The people who don't like it will either get used to it as time passes, or go off and do other stuff. The people who don't mind will stick around.

I'm pretty new to the game and to the community, so I'm not sure what the deal is with Eurydice. That they have someone specifically to keep track of what the community's saying is encouraging, though. That said, they probably won't implement suggestions that weaken their chosen business model; the recent changes to CE costs were probably made for a variety of reasons - most likely a combination of increasing revenue and extending the game's lifespan by making it take longer to get top-level gear.

The fact remains that OOO need to cover their development costs by finding ways to get money from the playerbase. That they're going for micropayments rather than subscriptions is interesting, as it's still a pretty experimental approach that requires a lot of fine-tuning to determine what the market will bear.

But only because I love one of my friends, the fuse costs disgust me, and the binding doesn't help.