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Why the Wild Hunting Blade Isn't Garbage and Why You Should Get It

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Wed, 08/07/2013 - 08:53
Lightning-Blade

As I'm sure most of you are already coming to shout at me for advertising the WHB over the Dread Venom Striker, at least allow me the courtesy of explaining why I chose one over the other.

Firstly, the Wild Hunting Blade's Charge Attack will always flinch on every hit. not sometimes, not against certain enemies, every hit for every enemy that's not a boss. On top of that, unlike the rest of the cutter line, the charge attack will keep enemies stuck in front of you for the duration of the attack. this, coupled with the Charge Attack always flinching, makes for an absolutely devastating combo.

Second, it benefits greatly from attack speed and damage buffs, so long as you can land hits effectively and quickly.

Thirdly, while it does more damage to Beasts, it does the exact same damage as the DVS to everything else as it deals normal-type damage. While the DVS can reduce a targets defense through poison, the proc rate isn't as reliable.

Fourthly, the 5-swing combo for all cutters is surprisingly useful in dodging attacks, as you can have your 3rd or 4th swing go wide, and then turn around and keep pounding on whomever you're attacking.

Lastly, the secondary swing has a much larger reach than every other cutter weapon, allowing you to get more hits in and, obviously, allow for more damage. On top of that, it's easier to graze an enemy with the secondary hit should you 'dodge attack', allowing for more constant damage.

I understand that there are those who prefer the DVS for it's poison damage; I'm not saying it's a bad weapon in comparison; but saying that the Wild Hunting Blade just isn't worth getting simply isn't true.

Wed, 08/07/2013 - 11:03
#1
Mentlegen's picture
Mentlegen
Neither is worth getting

My whb only flinches gremlins and beasts on every hit. others may land a hit on me before flinching, idk maybe it's because i dont have asi or dmg bonuses. But it does flinch often. Still doesn't make it viable

Wed, 08/07/2013 - 12:24
#2
Juances's picture
Juances

Are you playing on elite? I've noticed my WRH doesn't flinch trojans outside of normal FSC.

Wed, 08/07/2013 - 12:29
#3
Zeddy's picture
Zeddy

WHB does not flinch T3 zombies and mecha knights, among other things.

That being said, if you have a Maskeraith, Caustic Quills turn cutters into a single-target murder machine and you should get it.

Wed, 08/07/2013 - 13:20
#4
Lightning-Blade
I have, admittedly, not

I have, admittedly, not tested it on Trojans, mainly due to the small window of opportunity in which you can hit them. In all of my other tests, however, it has had a 100% flinch rate. it could be due to my gear (Vog Cub Set with a BTS), but I have my doubts. The WHB was just as effective against T3 zombies, causing flinch with each hit like it normally would, so I'm not entirely sure what's happening there.

Wed, 08/07/2013 - 13:29
#5
Zeddy's picture
Zeddy
@Lightning-Blade

Which difficulty is this? Are you playing solo? Enemies get harder to flinch at higher difficulties and more party members.

Wed, 08/07/2013 - 13:54
#6
Lightning-Blade
@Zeddy

Advanced, Solo, though even with 1 or 2 more knights it still flinches constantly.

Wed, 08/07/2013 - 15:54
#7
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Krakob

Firstly, the Wild Hunting Blade's Charge Attack will always flinch on every hit. not sometimes, not against certain enemies, every hit for every enemy that's not a boss.
False.

Second, it benefits greatly from attack speed and damage buffs, so long as you can land hits effectively and quickly.
Same goes for DVS.

Personally, I mostly use WHB when fighting beasts without being able to exceed +3 Sword DI. Additionally, it pairs well with EV. You pop the vortex and charge the WHB up. Just make sure to have some ASI in that case.

Sat, 08/10/2013 - 15:21
#8
Bopp's picture
Bopp
agree

This has all been discussed many times. Search Google for something like "spiral knights forum DVS WHB" to find many threads. It's so overdone that I cover it in my sword guide (which is really just a FAQ for swords).

It's true that WHB's charge flinches much more than DVS'. I haven't retested them with difficulty levels. Your comment about ASI and damage bonuses is not useful, for the reason that Krakob stated. Your third point is an argument for DVS over WHB, especially since beasts are the easiest monster family. Your other arguments are similar.

I agree that WHB is not "worthless". But neither is it highly valuable. Each player has to decide whether it's worth the orb cost (or, previously, energy cost). In my opinion, WHB should be a very low priority for players. That's why WHB was the 15th 5-star sword that I obtained.

Sun, 08/11/2013 - 04:39
#9
Xephyris's picture
Xephyris
<3 WHB

Tbh the WHB isn't all that good. It's much better to go with the Levi blade as it's more reliable overall, and has a better DPs.
BUT I am a massive fan of the WHB for one reason and one reason only: it looks frickin awesome. I use it for fsc instead of a glacius, I use it for everything. I use it for vana. Even though the WHB sucks, I love it cause swag.

Sun, 08/11/2013 - 23:07
#10
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Batabii

WHB is NOT worse than levi. At worst it's even. I would say it's the second-best normal sword in the game (first being sudaruska)

Mon, 08/12/2013 - 00:21
#11
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Krakob
@Larry

Second best for what? I'd say all normal swords have uses and none of them really fill them all. A shame I don't like Levi at all.

Mon, 08/12/2013 - 05:03
#12
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Bopp
for some reason

For some reason there is a parallel thread at the same time about the same topic. There I give data suggesting that Acheron out-damages WHB against beasts (at damage+6). Sad.

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