Spiral Knights - Is it really worth getting an Alchemer if I have Shadowhawk/Silversix?

Is it really worth getting an Alchemer if I have Shadowhawk/Silversix?

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Wed, 08/07/2013 - 11:37

Fauxhownd

I love the Antigua line of guns, I have both branches on my two-weapon loadout as I build my way (slowly and painfully without CE) to 5*, and both are exceptional weapons as a Gunslinger. They're fast, have a high DPS rating, accurate, wicked cool looking, and don't get in the way of what other party members are doing since they have no knockback and little in the way of particle blindage. I love these two guns to death.

I'm hesitant to get an Alchemer because of the two-shot clip issue, and the fact that these two guns cover my Elemental/Shadow needs. Is it really worth getting an Alchemer of some sort if I have these two guns already?

My Gunslinger loadout was going to be Argent Peacemaker, Sentenza, Blitz Needle, and Shivermist.

Wed, 08/07/2013 - 11:45

Demonicsothe

Get one and try it out,

Get one and try it out, although their damage isn't amazing until 4-5* simply because of the ricochet mechanic.

I have silversix and although its a fine weapon, it doesn't suit the way I enjoy gunning.

Gameplay wise, if you need to craft something else that would actually benefit you, such as the chaos set or the gunslinger gear, should probably do that first since you have your damage type covered.

Wed, 08/07/2013 - 12:21

Juances

The bullets split and bounce. The 2-shot clip can be treated as a 10 instead. You just have to find the right angle.

Wed, 08/07/2013 - 15:44

Surfpichu

If you can get internal

If you can get internal bounces down, the Alchemer is a really nice weapon. It does a much better job at AoE, and a well-placed charge attack is devastating. On top of that, the fact that some alchemers come with status effects make them really nice weapons. Also, if you're going chaos or gunslinger, your Gremlin/Undead damage bonuses are going to eventually be overwritten by your gear. I'm with Demonic as it being something to eventually try, but not high priority to grab.

Wed, 08/07/2013 - 22:52

Autisylveon

I'm no expert @ gunning but I'll tell you this...

The antigua lines (AP & Sentenza) are strongly advised to be used as a sidearm for SWORDIEs only!

Pure gunners don't need to use Antigua as their main weapon due to the alchemer granting more damage, being able to move more freely when using the gun-switch trick shot on the alchemer and It's fun to use :)
This is only in my perspective though I'm pretty sure you can find another thread on google about this by searching (antigua vs alchemer lines) something like that :D

Good Luck!

Thu, 08/08/2013 - 00:24

Blitzhawk

Try it, but not needed

Alchemers aren't very good until 4 star. However, they have beast charges, do pretty good damage and the splitting bullets can spread status/damage everywhere. It's a gun you should get eventually, but the AP and Sentenza are a bit easier to use and should be enough for end-game. The 2 clip isn't an issue once you learn to pace your bullets or switch shoot.

Sat, 08/10/2013 - 15:24

Bopp

try some data

The guild Lancer Knightz have data on handgun clips per minute, and the resulting damage per second. (These figures ignore gun switching and all other fancy firing techniques. So take them as a baseline or a rough idea.) You can see that alchemers get very good DPS if you can exploit the ricochets, and not very good DPS if you cannot.

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Is it really worth getting an Alchemer if I have Shadowhawk/Silversix?