Now I have lots more free time I can spend on the forums! Great update!

I mean... *crickets*

Now I don't need that new computer for playing that I wanted to buy, or my Paypal account!
Thank you Three Rings!

Except for, say, the high increase of CE costs for crafting, I don't blame this patch at all.
But 800 for 5* gear? I think 150 > 300 > 500 (or even 600) CE for crafting 3, 4 and 5* gear, respectively, wouldn't hurt the players so much. No, I'm talking about free players: any cent spent here get its worthiness almost halved. (I've bought 7k CE a month ago. T-T)

Well, I'm a 4* gear chillaxed player who still avoids playing T3 too much, have a lot of work to do and have still time with offline games and (OMG) real life. So I don't play too much and I don't care about it that much. ;9

I like how joining terminals is free now. So then I could just GO to the terminal instead of badgering my guild members to "GET ME THAT RECIPE PLEASE OH YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH UH WAIT LEMME SEND YOU MY CROWNS".

<333

@Saphykun: You still have to give them crowns if they're short. Unless you port two levels before Basil, Basil will only greet you with 1star recipes now.

Protip: fuschia leecadet saphykun and sirrocco and fallout are on the payroll of 3 rings!

@SwordSaint

Haha, I left Vindictus for SK, but now I'm back in V for the huge update today and ignoring SK for a while. Lots of AP to spend. :D Thanks OOO.

I think a lot of the backlash on this patch has been a bit unthinking. Yeah it sucks that your items that you were crafting to sell are now worthless, and yes the jump in energy prices for crafting hurts, but it was NEEDED. The economy was a shambles. Prices on materials had been in a downward spiral for weeks, precrafted items were basically unsellable unless they were 4 or 5 star or had a rare UV, exploits of the system made it FAR too easy to reach the endgame in days, and the trade channel made it pointless to try to establish yourself as a seller.

To fix this they;

1) Added an auction house. This is of course the least controversial of additions, and it seems well implemented. I think that the listing charge is a bit silly, and would be better as a auction limit as the listing charge discourages sale of low star materials like shards, unless sold in bulk.

2) They prevented items of 4 and 5 star from being tradeable. Lets face it, with 40 or 50 dollars worth of energy you could jump in the game, buy a full set of gear, dive right down to Vanaduke and finish the "endgame" 4 star and 5 star should be earned. Yeah it sucks that some people got stuck with weapons they didn't want, but ultimately this kills weapon farming very effectively. As to those that feel they should have warned people imagine what would happen to the economy when everyone suddenly dumped all their 4 and 5 star stuff on the market at the same time.

3) Prevented people from buying recipes at Basil unless they had done the previous level If WoW had an exploit where you could guarantee that you could get a specific loot item that had a low drop rate AND sell access to it to every person who would pay would you expect them not to fix it? Recipes are SUPPOSED to be your reward for going through the grind levels. Your reward for the later levels is materials and heat. This was a fix that needed to happen and will make the recipe market once again worth investing in.

4)Boss Tokens I've not heard much complaint about this, probably because its annoying when someone dumps in to your gate as you go in to the boss after you did all the hard work to get there. Again just because you COULD skip the early levels doesn't mean you should be able to. This leads us to the most controversial

5) Increased crafting costs Ok this will probably be tweaked through the life of the game, but people who flood the market with cheaply crafted stuff because they are UV grinding was killing our economy. Now maybe it won't be as prevalent.

tl:dr The economy was dying because it was WAY too easy to make everything in the game, and the only way to fix that is to make it harder. No change like this was going to be popular but at least they added some sugar to the sour with an auction house, and when the price of materials and recipes goes back up and we have an actual economy I for one will be glad for the patch.

It's kind of impressive to read threads like this and see how naive people can be, and fail to understand the whole situation and view points of other players.

@Choobski - Okay. Now go to the suggestion forums, bug report forums, whatever. How many incredible suggestions/bug fixes, some that are even majorly required right now have been added? How many have even been commented by the devs?

Auction House was a major update that was seriously needed. They didn't add it because we suggested, they added it because it was necessary. Training Hall? I'm pretty sure that whatever the players suggested for the Training Hall was entirely different from what we got.

5) Increased crafting costs Ok this will probably be tweaked through the life of the game, but people who flood the market with cheaply crafted stuff because they are UV grinding was killing our economy. Now maybe it won't be as prevalent.

I seriously do not understand why the hell everyone is talking about this.

THE PRICES FOR CRAFTING ONE AND TWO STAR ITEMS HAVE NOT CHANGED. UV RAGECRAFTING IS THE EXACT SAME.

It only affected three to five star crafting. If anything, this encouraged ragecrafting EVEN MORE. Because of the high energy crafting prices, it's kind of better to just go and make an awesome UV instead of making a plain item, then getting the UV one, no?

You state that you feel 4 and 5 star gear should be earned. How is spending that $40-$50 not "earning" it?

Especially since that Real life cash infusion is what allows 3 Rings to provide the rest of us the same game and content for free?

Having a bunch of unbound 4* and 5* gear at this moment in the game requires you to change your name.

I would suggest:

MassLuck
ALL-Luck
TrumpLuck

Random noobs jumping into the game and outfitting themselves with end game gear is such an exaggeration. First off new players don't even know what end game gear is let alone how to buy it, that argument is mainly for people that do not own 5* gear and see other players running around with it... yeah it's called envy. It's their money, their choice, and their perspective of fun. Some players were also smart enough to realize that the cost of crafting items yourself was more than what the crafters were selling them for, I know it's hard to believe but it happened.

@Bawb: The reason I had many pieces of unbound 4* gear is beacause I don't like the concept of mass crafting 1* items, since I consider it to be pretty much gambling for UV's. So I made 4* items instead and sold those items for profit while at the same time gaining a lot of good UV items, this way I would pretty much profit whether I rolled good UV's or didn't. The update just made me profit even more, but only in the short term because end game trading has been reduced to exactly what I hated... mass crafting 1* items.

Well, this is not really a praise and I should be posting it into the discussion thread but I think it will just go down in a minute.

Imagining you working hard for something you really like, with passion and anything and it's something you want to share with everyone, still following me? Good.

You are finished with your project and you are showing it to everybody and they just tell you how much it sucks. Doesn't feel good does it?
We are all forgetting that the Devs are still humans just like you, but you say to yourself they're something more because of the "control", but that's not the case.

Just think about it that all these people working for this game are humans.

Greetings, a calmed down Riodaisho.

@ Negima: AAHHHHHAHAHAHA!!!! Are you srs? They took all that time to "fix" things that weren't broken, and completely ignored something that is? That's FANTASTIC! Awesome update, guys. /thumbsup

Now i can fully play League of Legends or Mabinogi and give my money to them

thanks 3 rings!!

@ fuchsia
So you want to force YOUR way of playing onto others. Seriously, when do I go into your game and force you to play the way I play?
Do I go in your toilet and (give you instructions)

Yea, since me leveling items for my guild mates to help them get to T3 so we can actually do a Duke guild run breaks the game bro.

You praise them for limiting my game play. A big #### You.

Pew, that felt great. Thank you for the post.

PS. My goal WAS to have every item in the game, every recipe. Those not goal enough for you?

Edited: language

I, like a few above me, love the update except the increased CE cost of crafting. That seemed harsh, but I'm already over it.
I love seeing how hard people cry, and I've noticed a few people rage quitting that I can honestly say I'm very happy to see leave.

Edit: I wasn't gonna bash anyone, but I mean, look above me. lost4now. Wow, that is just hilarious. Cracking me up. Rawr! Anger!

oh i love the update!.... wait DID I JUST SAY THAT? im going to go wash out my computer and mind now

My laptop got hit with a bad virus, so I'm waiting for a recovery disk to arrive. In the meantime, I've been reading all the discussions on the new patch. With all the complaints, I can't imagine that it's actually that bad. Like I said, I haven't played the update yet, but we shall see.

I have faith in OOO and that the patch is not as bad as everyone says.