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Possible scam or exploit for "free" rarities.

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Tue, 08/20/2013 - 22:52
Yuji-Sakai

While naming and shaming isn't allowed I can't remember the guy's name anyway, so I'd just say this is something to watch out for, unless it doesn't go here in which case it'll be moved.

Here recently I decided to see who would join an open party for The Legion danger mission in tier two, and a single person joined. The first floor went somewhat well, a death or 2 here and there. The second floor however, this other party member died in the first room, got up to finish, then after going right, sometime a few minutes later died again. After staying dead for some time, long enough to clear out the party button on that side, he says he needs to go away for a bit, from his computer he said. I don't think much about it at first, but then, nearly forty minutes later, he's still dead, and I'm walking into the final room after having to clear out the entire other side by myself. At one point I start to wonder why he hasn't been kicked yet for being "away" for so long, or if he's even really away at all. By the last room, I'm starting to wonder if this person is just waiting for a free trip to some treasure, despite knowing he won't get any drops from loot on the way there, but rarities only drop from boxes, and the free revive would kick in the moment we hit that floor. Rather than feel like I was just being used to carry someone on a free trip to orbs and sparks among other things, I kicked him out of the party during one of the waves in the final room, finishing by myself and leaving him behind.

While I am aware that this could have just as easily been someone who may actually be busy and constantly checking back on their computer to make sure they're not kicked while they finish whatever it is they were doing, it also occurred to me that some, more knowledgeable players may try this exact method to exploit entire groups or single players during runs at an attempt to get free rarities with no work on their part.

This is obviously a complaint, but it should also be a warning to watch out for things like this, simply because newer players may not know as much about how the game works. That's not to say every member who dies and stays dead is doing this obviously, but if someone is going to join a party and then vanish for nearly an hour, it's going to seem a bit strange.

Wed, 08/21/2013 - 04:03
#1
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Mystrian

"wonder why he hasn't been kicked yet for being "away" for so long"

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"then vanish for nearly an hour"

Maybe your teammate wanted to spectate you? See if you could complete the mission with the hp bonus for mobs (party of two or more). lots of ppl do the exact same thing to me too. Since i wear "bad armor" in all my runs.

Yep. It does seem strange, but i've got to ask, did the player give you any notice beforehand? A good solution is to mostly go solo. That way you won't need to worry about people "taking up your time"

Wed, 08/21/2013 - 04:37
#2
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Juances

You could have gone solo at any time (namely before the last fight in front of the elevator so he is forced to use a spark and kill something -only to fail miserably- to get the treasure). You willingly carried him and he didn't break any game rule.

What he did is what every T1 player that wants to go to Vana do, leech. It's morally wrong but not a scam.

Wed, 08/21/2013 - 09:50
#3
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Redlawlsy
Lawls

People have been looking for the easy way from the beginning of time and they always will. If using you is an easy way to get free stuff, people will do it. Deal with it.

Wed, 08/21/2013 - 10:02
#4
Yuji-Sakai
Oh I know they have/will.

Just figured I'd give the forums something else possibly of note, since I'm sure I'm not the only person it's happened to, and obviously won't be the last either.

Thu, 08/22/2013 - 02:17
#5
Mystrian's picture
Mystrian

But I though all drops have a timer and then they vanish

Thu, 08/22/2013 - 02:37
#6
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Thunder-The-Bright

blade, that was removed.

Thu, 08/22/2013 - 05:07
#7
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Popoixd

Someone did that to me and my friend its was in a arena in a missions.
First room,he kill some enemy,die,use emergency revive,end of the room.
Second room,he start,kill like 2 enemy and die,don't do anything of the room,revive at the end whit spark and take the loot.
Third room,same thing.

Thu, 08/22/2013 - 05:18
#8
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Iamnoone
If you die often while

If you die often while carrying them, some will try to sell you over priced sparks of life to help you stay alive.

Thu, 08/22/2013 - 05:19
#9
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Flareminute
Well.....

Yuji,now the material dropped that u see in your screen is your and if he's unlucky and didn't get rarities in boxes(because material is individually distributed and maybe u'll get and he don't)so if he really stay for a long time(maybe aroung 5min)u can kick him and he'll be sent into a new room with no material and crown that he got from your room.
If u don't really understand what i'm saying then i'm sorry cause i use english as foreign language so i'm not fluent at it.

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