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Whoever Loses, Three Rings Wins

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Wed, 05/18/2011 - 20:00
Sigmund
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So, reading through the recent update about items binding, I find it almost shameful. Don't misunderstand, I get part of where they're coming from- they don't want someone to just be able to buy a nice set of gear on the cheap and easy, to keep the equipment "Rare". But the way they're going about keeping it "Rare" is...utterly ridiculous. Take a note from any other MMO, and if you want an item to be rare and appealing, make it a reward for completing difficult content. You already have Tokens from JK and Vanaduke, why not just make some rare recipes or good items available from them and bind on pickup?

The problem is, the Recipe system is so token. The only difference between the buying recipes and buying actual items is that you can create more than one, but with the new update, why would you ever even do that, as you couldn't give it to someone else. My understanding was that the recipe system was in the game because it was supposed to foster interaction between players. It did- until now. Crafting is now a ridiculously silly process, that is basically just an additional step added between Earn Money -> Buy Item.

And now we come to the new possible solution- If you want to trade players high level items, you can spend EVEN MORE Crystal energy to do so. How in the world this was perceived as a solution that would be accepted happily is beyond me. It simply amplifies the previous state of affairs and causes inflation to run rampant. What is the difference between paying 1600CE for an item pre-patch, and 3200CE post patch (Because of added "i had to unbind it" markup.)? The answer is, there isn't. As much as I think of the reasons for it, its either a monumental blunder, or a carefully made, greedy maneuver. Looking to the answer provided (Because it makes items more rare and coveted), i don't see it. How does making it so only players willing to pony up cash can have items make them -More- rare? I will point to another MMO- World of Warcraft, Specifically- That [Goofy] Horse (Spectral Pony). I can safely say that while its not by nature unpleasant, players reacted horribly to it because of what it represented. And thats just a mount, a flavor item, imagine if you could start buying legendaries in that game. It wouldn't make them rare, just stupid.

I'll say it once more- if you want rare items to be in the game, make them a reward for being GOOD at your game, not for paying you large sums of money. Reward players for getting to the core, reward players for defeating bosses, for defeating danger rooms, and the like. Dont reward them for the size of their disposable income.

I hate the energy systems because its ambiguous, its hard to tell how much money Three Rings wants you to give them on a month to month basis. I'd have no problem paying for this game, but its lack of a subscription and the other methods to try to avoid paying them, makes it hard to tell how much they think their game is worth. WoW costs $15 a month, and even if you dont like the game, most people can admit, its got a hell of alot of content to it (yes, I'm aware that you have to buy the game and expansions, that's not the point). Spiral Knights is fun, but its in its infancy. If Three Rings is pushing such changes now, I can't imagine how this game will look a few months from now.

I'm afraid that from my perspective, the only thing i can see from the game right now is simple greed. The only improvement to the game last patch was the Auction House, which has been rendered moot by the new restrictions and costs levied upon players.

Its a shame when a game with so much potential is ruined in this fashion.

Wed, 05/18/2011 - 20:19
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Coatl
I've read your whole post

I've read your whole post fully and I agree completely.
The auction house is very good, for the buyers. For the sellers, they fear having to pay big bundles of crowns just because their items didn't sell.

~~~Spoiler to anyone who hasn't picked up their end item from the core~~~
There's nothing down there. Nothing worth a crown, anyway.

And I agree, there should be a reward for getting to the core.

Wed, 05/18/2011 - 20:37
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Lawlsworth
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Yep, I agree. They should add

Yep, I agree. They should add new gear that gives people a reason to play the game and earn it rather then just spending tons of money and just buying it all.

Wed, 05/18/2011 - 20:34
#3
Capt-Delicious
Well put!

I agree completely with the aforementioned statements! Three Rings current decisions are making me have severe doubts about the future of this game.

Wed, 05/18/2011 - 20:48
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Metaknight
I am intrigued by your ideas

I am intrigued by your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Wed, 05/18/2011 - 20:51
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Bloodbane
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To quote Sigmund...

"You already have Tokens from JK and Vanaduke, why not just make some rare recipes or good items available from them and bind on pickup?"

I love this idea. As it stands, from looking at the token vendor the only thing that seemed remotely useful using Vanaduke's tokens was the Fang of Vog, which I have doubts as to whether it's all that amazing of a weapon. The armor is pretty crap, and by the time you grinded Vanaduke to get the tokens for flame souls, you probably would have picked up enough to make whatever the heck you wanted in the first place! As it stands, the only point in fighting and beating Vanaduke is basically just to say 'I did it. Booyah!'.

This was mentioned in another thread, but the fact that just about all materials are readily available by grinding for tokens is a big part of why end-game weapons are so common. I saw my first Trojan Horseshoe recently, which went to another party member, but it didn't really feel all that exciting because my Grim Spark supply is pretty high and I've got plenty of all the other 'dark' mats. The only material that's obtainable by Tokens that isn't common is Flame Souls, but at the same time doing Vanaduke enough times to buy a Flame Soul with a token is probably pretty likely to get you more Flame Souls than you needed beforehand.

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