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Whats the best sword to match with Supernova?

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Thu, 08/22/2013 - 10:46
Shadowtrojan's picture
Shadowtrojan

I was wondering what was the best weapon that could go along with the gun Supernova, Right now Im thinking its either dread venom striker or Glacius.

Please reply ^_^

Thu, 08/22/2013 - 11:19
#1
Bopp's picture
Bopp
obligatory

I have a detailed sword guide for people in your situation. There's even a section on mixing weapon types.

In your particular case, your gun is applicable to just about any enemy, so your sword doesn't have to fill any particular niche. What enemies are most difficult for you? You could pick your sword based on that. Have you considered Combuster instead of Glacius? Dread Venom Striker is fun, but not especially effective, and one of the hardest swords to use safely in Tier 3. My guide goes into lots of detailed comparisons.

By the way, is there a particular reason why you chose Supernova over Polaris? They're similar in style and knockback, but the latter has the advantages of shock and a specialized damage type.

Thu, 08/22/2013 - 11:51
#2
Shadowtrojan's picture
Shadowtrojan
@Bopp

My supernova has Dmg bonus Gremlin low, which polaris wouldnt be very effective since it has elemental damage. The enemy I have most trouble with would probably be the Kats considering they are melee and ranged attackers. So maybe I can keep glacius with me :)

I actually do not like combuster because I think that freeze would give you an advantage to charge up again and repeat the process until the enemy is dead.

Thu, 08/22/2013 - 11:56
#3
Shadowtrojan's picture
Shadowtrojan
Hmm I read your sword guide @Bopp

I couldnt find a particular weapon that would fit Supernova, Im probably going with an elemental weapon like Glacius or DA. And maybe if i become good at pvp (Like thatll happen) Ill make Voltedge ^_^

Thu, 08/22/2013 - 12:23
#4
Shadowtrojan's picture
Shadowtrojan
bump

bump

Thu, 08/22/2013 - 12:31
#5
Bopp's picture
Bopp
response

I don't think you should plan your equipment around a UV of gremlin: Low. That is not much of an advantage over no UV. If I were upgrading that item, I would certainly uncheck the UV, trying to get a better one. (I'm not trying to insult you. I'm just trying to give you an idea that better things are in your future.)

Focusing on elemental swords is a fine idea, if kats give you trouble. I agree that they are some of the hardest monsters. Have you read the explicit comparison between Combuster and Glacius in my sword guide? Combuster often just kills the enemy in one charge. Thus your argument for Glacius is not very compelling --- a dead monster is better than a frozen one. But they're both fine swords, so use what you like.

By the way, according to the customs of these forums, you are bumping your thread a bit too much. Your thread is still on the first page of the forum. Give people a chance to respond.

Thu, 08/22/2013 - 12:41
#6
Shadowtrojan's picture
Shadowtrojan
@Bopp

Yeah I guess I see your point. But I wasnt the one who put the UV, a random guy sold me the 2 star pulsar version for 20k and it had the UV so it was a really good snag. I also read Your calibur vs brandish section and I think the Levi blade is good since it said that the calibur line is good for emergencies. Ill think about combuster since I got four 4 star items needed to be made into 5 star xP

Thanks for the advice and help

Thu, 08/22/2013 - 12:50
#7
Bopp's picture
Bopp
hmm

I don't really agree with some of your statements, but it doesn't really matter. You'll be fine. Have fun.

Thu, 08/22/2013 - 16:16
#8
Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

For your case specifically, dread venom striker would be alright but kind of redundant, as supernova excels at killing priority targets and crowd control. I'd say that glacius wouldn't be a bad idea. Been starting to think that what battle sprite you have really dictates your gear more than anything at this point.

Thu, 08/22/2013 - 19:46
#9
Shadowtrojan's picture
Shadowtrojan
@Fehzor

My battke sprite is Drakon, Is that good?

Thu, 08/22/2013 - 20:10
#10
Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

Well you've got that fire shield thing, and thats as much as I know about it. So yeah, I'd say that'd work well with glacius as you could use the fire thing as a last resort when you're getting swarmed by enemies.

Thu, 08/22/2013 - 23:49
#11
Batabii's picture
Batabii

Glacius's charge attack is basically like supernova at range, however, it's a bad idea to take TWO normal weapons because you won't be good against ANYTHING

Therefore, if Supernova is for range and knockback, I suggest BTB or Grand Flourish. One covers the other's weaknesses, more or less.

Mon, 08/26/2013 - 12:21
#12
Skykillerthefirst's picture
Skykillerthefirst
@Batabii

I think two normal weapons are a great idea because you wont be very good against anything, but you wont be very bad against anything either, no matter if you want to use a gun or a sword.
Edit: I reworded it.

Sun, 08/25/2013 - 20:45
#13
Demonicsothe's picture
Demonicsothe
@Sky

Before anyone rips you apart for your somewhat flawed understanding of the game mechanics.

2 typed weapons will deal effective damage against 4 family types and neutral damage against 2. A typed weapon deals just as much base damage as its normal type counterpart. This means that with an elemental/piercing weapon setup, you would use piercing on gremlins and elemental on slimes. Everything else has a weakness to the weapons.

On the other hand, your 2 normal type will deal neutral damage to all 6 families. I suppose the benefit of this is that you don't have to remember to switch weapons.

Sun, 08/25/2013 - 22:52
#14
Krns's picture
Krns
I'd use a heavy sword, like

I'd use a heavy sword, like WRH or DA.
The knockback/crowd control is needed quite often.

Since you have to get distance between yourself and the target with supernova, if someone/something gets past it, you can whack it with a giant hammer. Then shield cancel, move out of the way, rinse and repeat.

I do this with polaris.

Mon, 08/26/2013 - 05:10
#15
Bopp's picture
Bopp
piercing, elemental, shadow

I'd use a heavy sword, like WRH or DA...I do this with polaris.

But then you have a problem that both of your weapons are elemental. Unless you're in a specific locale (e.g. Firestorm Citadel) where that's okay, it's probably not okay. You'll be bad against gremlins and beasts, and not great against fiends and slimes either. As Demonicsothe pointed out, you really want to have two non-normal damage types (piercing, elemental, shadow), to maximize your overall damage against monsters. On the other hand, Skykillerthefirst's preference for two normal weapons is okay, for those players who value flexibility (using either weapon against any monster) over damage output.

Mon, 08/26/2013 - 05:32
#16
Krns's picture
Krns
Forgot to mention that I had

Forgot to mention that I had a third weapon slot.
I usually fill it with a toothpick, which isn't such a bad idea.
The speed interrupts most attacks.

As for demonicsothe, since he has a normal gun, an elemental sword is acceptable.
This is assuming he has 2 slots.

Mon, 08/26/2013 - 07:42
#17
Zeddy's picture
Zeddy

Supernova has two advantages over Polaris:

  1. Supernova has higher base damage. It's not an enormous amount, but Polaris has the damage of Nova Driver where Supernova has the damage of Iron Slug. It's mitigated by the fact that the damage is normal-typed (and that Iron Slug is underpowered anyways, especially compared to Supernova), but fact remains that 4 out of 6 families, Supernova will be stronger.
  2. Supernova has no shock. Shock is a nice status in PvP and under controlled circumstances like when using VT or EV, but for general PvE Pulsar use the status is self-defeating and will mess up your knockback. If the Pulsars are brooms, Supernova is a fine, solid, all-around broom while Polaris is a leaf blower with a half-broken cable that keeps turning itself off at random intervals.

To pair with Supernova, you could use something like Sudaruska. The two weapons will be able to push back anything within combat range for you between them; Suda against close things and Supernova against far things.

Tue, 08/27/2013 - 08:14
#18
Snipm's picture
Snipm
The charged shots have the

The charged shots have the same base damage for some reason.

Tue, 08/27/2013 - 09:51
#19
Zeddy's picture
Zeddy
@Snipm

That's just how the Roarmulus guns work. On Pulsars you don't care about the charge attack, so the charge attack is the same on both. With Catalyzers you don't care about the standard attack, so they're the same on both.

  • The basic attack is the same damage for all four guns. (Polaris, Supernova, Biohazard, Neutralizer.) This damage is the same as Storm Driver.
  • Both Pulsars' charge attack damage is the same as that of Nova Driver.
  • Polaris' expanded shot has the damage of Nova Driver while Supernova has the damage of Iron Slug.
  • Biohazard's charge shot has the damage of Iron Slug while Neutralizer has more.
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