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Why should anyone forge 5* armor to level 10?

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Sun, 08/25/2013 - 06:26
Nakana

Why should anyone forge 5* armor/shields to level 10? It's even debatable whether you should level to 9, 8, 7 or 6, but for simplicity I'll stick to just talking about level 10.

I have a Dread Skelly Shield and Mask (both 5* and fully heated at level 9). The amount of Radiant Fire Crystals that I could potentially pump into these is mind boggling, and the payoff is immeasurably small. I understand that with weapons you get a bump to charge time reduction at level 10, but with armor and shields there is no such bump. You just get the typical increase in standard damage type resistance - for the Skelly line it's a bump to normal and shadow damage - but I can't even see the dim part of the bar that will be awarded when I forge to level 10.

For armor the last significant stat bump is an added health bar at level 5. For shields there is no significant stat bump, just gradual increases to damage resistance.

So my question is did OOO intend for 5* level 10 armor/shields to be a status symbol? Or is there some valuable benefit that's not discussed anywhere I've looked?

Sun, 08/25/2013 - 06:36
#1
Kalaina-Elderfall's picture
Kalaina-Elderfall
With the introduction of fire

With the introduction of fire crystals and the amazingly high jump in requirements past level 7 (as compared to the higher frequency of orb drops), having gear that isn't level 10 is now an actual consideration when choosing where to apply your resources.

Basically, your gear gets slightly more optimal at the higher levels of heat. That's it. Eventually people are going to want their favorite gear to be entirely optimal (this is why we pay out the nose for UVs which offer marginal benefits), but for those who are choosing where to apply their fire crystals and have to pick between one piece of gear and another, getting things to level 10 is a lot less attractive.

Sun, 08/25/2013 - 06:49
#2
Soulstaker's picture
Soulstaker
Well, a lot of weapons get a

Well, a lot of weapons get a CTR med from level 10. Bombs and swords benefit from this. Blitz needle,Valiance, and Alchemers also benefit from this because a lot of people use their charge (Valiancr charge using used as much as Alchemers and blitz but you can see people in PvE and PvP using the charge.)

Sun, 08/25/2013 - 07:16
#3
Bopp's picture
Bopp
long-term goal

The game has a "design flaw", in that you can max out your items very easily, by taking them to 5 stars and heat level 10. Once you're maxxed out, there is nowhere to go. For example, all of my heat in 2013 has been wasted, because I haven't had anything to heat (except for my sprite). The game would be better if you could always make your items slightly better, over long periods of time. Perhaps 5-star items could have unlimited heat levels, with damage stats that keep going up (by less and less, perhaps approaching an asymptote). But actually, there are two ways that you can keep improving your equipment in the long term.

The first way is unique variants. The high-powered ones are so rare/costly that most players will never approach the perfect Blitz Needle, for example. But they can keep saving money, rolling Punch, and crafting, in the hopes of one day getting perfect UVs.

The second way is this new forge system. You can stop heating your 5-star items at heat level 5. But eventually, if you keep playing, you will acquire so many fire crystals that you might as well finish heating your items. So I agree that 5-star-heat-level-10 is now something like an endgame goal for highly experienced players with nothing else to do. It's not just a status symbol, because it has some slight practical effect. But it's close to a status symbol.

Sun, 08/25/2013 - 08:59
#4
Juances's picture
Juances

Sooner or later you'll have plenty of radiants and nothing to spend them on. That's the short answer.

You don't need to actively farm for crystals to upgrade that skelly. It'll just happen one day.

Sun, 08/25/2013 - 10:01
#5
Modico's picture
Modico
with the new kat events i have a lot of crystals

i just farmed 2 days in alone in the dark and i got 300+ radiants xD

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