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What Type of Brandish should I use?

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Tue, 08/27/2013 - 08:33
Byzanaut's picture
Byzanaut

I want and try to use a member of the brandish line for a five star sword but I don't know which one I'm kinda leaning towards the Voltedge but the Acheron looks pretty awesome, I don't know what to do.

Tue, 08/27/2013 - 09:18
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Krakob's picture
Krakob

Just wait for Bopp's generic, copy-pasted answer arriving in
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Tue, 08/27/2013 - 09:32
#2
Momofuku's picture
Momofuku
inb4bopp

Voltedge and Acheron serve different purposes--one is elemental and one is shadow. It's difficult to compare identical mechanic swords that have different types because you would still use them for different PVE scenarios. You would use Acheron against Gremlins, Slimes, (and Beasts) whereas Voltedge and the other elemental brandishes work better against Constructs, Undead (and Fiends).

For Acheron, your main comparison will be whether you want Gran Faust instead. I'm a fan of Acheron--slap on a CTR Med and a piece of Chaos, and baby, you've got a Gremlin stew going. However, Gran Faust is preferred for PVP, although I can't speak for those ASI brandish users myself.

For Voltedge, your decision is a little trickier. You would need to play a bit of PVP to get the recipes to craft the gear (at minimum you will need 250 tokens if you buy the Shockburst Brandish yourself; 300 if you decide to craft the 3-star brandish too). For what it's worth, you want to ask yourself, do you want a Voltedge, Glacius, or Combuster?

  • Voltedge is harder to get if you don't like PVP. Shock is nice; particularly notable for Firestorm Citadel (FSC) because the monsters there are immune to Fire status. Note that monsters inflicted by Shock don't get knockback during initial shock and shock ticks, so this may make monster behavior a little difficult to predict.
  • Glacius inflicts ice but the repeated blows from the charge attack might break the ice at the same time. Not much experience using this, but it doesn't look like a reliable source of freeze. Could be underrated though.
  • Combuster inflicts fire, and doesn't have the knockback issue Voltedge might have--monsters can be assured to ride the wave and take full damage. Easier to get than Voltedge, but whether one is "better" than the other is debatable.

Summary: Honestly, you can't go wrong with any brandish. Except cautery sword, I guess.

Tue, 08/27/2013 - 10:36
#3
Poopsie's picture
Poopsie
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In my personal opinion,

if you purely goes charge spam, go combuster. Comparing with acheron, combuster works well on jelly family, oilers included (but not toxoils from C42), the only problem you'll probably have is gremlins. Combuster still works on gremlin, but not effective.
Accompanied with electron vortex, volt edge is the best. Shock is the best status effect for monster clumped together.
I hate glacius deeply, the freeze is very reliable but that's exactly the problem. Freeze doesn't help to cancel the monster attack charge (knocked out), unlike their counterparts. I got slapped by monsters too many times, when I've dodged the monster but they moved because of glacius charge. Or they just got stuck when I want them far away before finishing their attack.
Only pick acheron, if you really hate gremlins & toxoils and want easy kills on them.

Tue, 08/27/2013 - 11:13
#4
Bopp's picture
Bopp
as foretold by Nostradamus

I have a detailed sword guide written for people in your position. As the others have said, Acheron is different from the others, due to damage type. Of the three elemental brandishes, I favor Combuster. Details can be found in my guide.

Tue, 08/27/2013 - 15:24
#5
Voza-Il's picture
Voza-Il
Aint nobody got time fo dat

Aint nobody got time fo dat no life wiki guide!

Combuster for general purpose
Voltedge for FSC/Lockdown
Glacius sucks
Acheron for lockdown/jelly places.

Tue, 08/27/2013 - 15:36
#6
Bopp's picture
Bopp
so

So you favor Combuster in deconstruction zones, Operation Crimson Hammer, and other gremlin-heavy levels?

Tue, 08/27/2013 - 17:01
#7
Voza-Il's picture
Voza-Il
You bet, fire burns ALL

You bet, fire burns ALL

Wed, 08/28/2013 - 10:47
#8
White-Past's picture
White-Past

Glacius doesn't suck. It's one of the most effective weapons for permanently locking down a monster. Almirian Crusaders? Just spam the charged attack and they'll be frozen in place till they die. Also works on Graveyard phantoms, zombies, retrodes, mecha knights, yada yada yada....

Wed, 08/28/2013 - 15:46
#9
Poopsie's picture
Poopsie
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lol, that's exactly the point. Almirian Crusader go charge his attack -> you charge glacius -> got frozen yet still not interrupted... you got hit right on your face when it targets you. Or some friend unaware with your charge will eat up his attack too. It's different with volt edge since shock will cancel his charge attack, also with combuster since you push them far far away, that he won't reach you after he dash attack. Combuster may hurt your friend, but one full ride of charge attack + explosion may interrupt his charge attack with a good damage bonus. Also similar case with mecha knights.
Who needs something really special about zombies and retrodes? They are slow. The only harm they did is to overcrowd you, but when you play long enough, you grow to just outrun whatever they're trying to do.

Wed, 08/28/2013 - 16:40
#10
White-Past's picture
White-Past

Why would you attack when the monster attacks? Just back away until they throw up their shield. When their shield goes down, unleash the charged attack, and they're frozen in place and you will have taken no damage. From there, you can just go for another charge and not even be in danger while for the Combuster and Voltedge, they'll still be moving for you. I guess you could say it's more of a tactical delay weapon. If you lock a few, you can deal with them later while you fight off a smaller and more manageable mob. Combuster and Voltedge are more of the all out offensive types and are friendlier to use.

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