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Fri, 05/20/2011 - 06:07
Raul

I am debating in joining the boycott of the game and or leaving the game for a extended period of time, until they fix this mess. The last patch has had a lackluster effect on the game for me and I'm pretty upset we got no new content and they only made it "artificially" longer by making it take longer and cost more, not to mention the various bugs and other crap that came with it.

I was very dedicated to this game, I even spent 15 bucks on it, I would LIKE a refund of at least 10, but I know that's probalby not going to happen. I feel cheated and betrayed, this is NOT the game I signed up to play.

I am weighing the pros and cons of leaving vs staying.

Leaving
Pros:

1. I get to put this behind me and heal emotionally, and wean myself off the addiction it had on me
2. I get to discover new and exciting games
3. I don't have to put up with the rage this patch caused

Cons

1. I will miss my friends
2. I will miss my guild

Staying
Pros

1.I get to see my friends and my guild
2. I may finally get to see what happens after you kill Vana

Cons
1. It's dead to me atm
2. Terraria looks much better
3. I feel cheated
4. The end game is gone and it's now a horrible grind
5. They took away my ability to self sustain myself

I am really on the fence about this. Maybe had I not had time away from the game due to a ban, I wouldn't of even thought of these things, who knows.

I just don't know.....I don't even know if I will come back, if I DO decide to leave this mess.

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 06:13
#1
Syor
Legacy Username
Erm

Just run on ME :P I'm already getting used to running on ME only. Probably killed my addiction but still kept my curiosity of what else I can do in this game.

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 06:15
#2
Raul
I never liked the ME system

I never liked the ME system it's designed artificially limit you and only 1 tier run a day? No thank you. It's not that I don't have the energy to do runs, it's that it's boring and they gave us no new content and the patch changed the core mechanics and broke things.

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 06:26
#3
Etendue's picture
Etendue
Precisely. Running on ME

Precisely. Running on ME works alright.

Jelly king is so unprofitable now that I do it for fun, and not for the money.

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 06:39
#4
Raul
You guys aren't helping me

You guys aren't helping me stay you know that right? It's like you are giving me MORE pros to leave lol.

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 06:44
#5
Eeks's picture
Eeks
I'll carry you through

I'll carry you through vanadork buddy.

BTW I'm making almost as much CE as I was pre-patch running less than 10 floors a day.

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 06:44
#6
Pawn's picture
Pawn
hi

@ hdragon, why is JK unprofitable now? I still profit when i do tier runs. Kinda sucks that you can't warp to floor 14 as easily as you used to be able to, but only cause the 1st 4 floors feel kinda boring.

@ skype, WHAT YOU WERE BANNED!!!??? Do you mind sharing what happened?
Oh yeah, and 1 of the pros to staying could be it's FUN. If you don't think the gameplay is fun/engaging any longer then maybe a break is in order. Or maybe i should say--> Rewarding/Fun.

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 06:46
#7
Eeks's picture
Eeks
jeburk: He is probably

jeburk: He is probably talking about DA's and AP's. Every 8 runs you could get a sealed sword/silversix before then level that up in 1 run, then level that up in 4 runs so every 13 runs you'd make like 1-1.5k CE.

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 06:49
#8
Tive's picture
Tive
Personally, just don't craft.

Personally, I just don't craft. Buying CE is perfectly sustainable for runs and I don't run so many dungeons anymore anyway because I know all the current ones.
And it doesn't hurt to grab some recipes I've been meaning to get. Crafting costs can only get lower!

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 06:52
#9
Pawn's picture
Pawn
@ eeks

*Facepalm* Yeah i shoulda cracked that code on my own, lol. I only had the opportunity to sell 2 avengers, 2 silent nights, and 1 Grey owlite shield before they killed that golden goose for us. But man am i glad that i at least got to sell a 5* item and a couple 4* or i might getting pushed closer to that fence. As it is i have just enough to make 2 more 5* items.

@tivv i agree somewhat. I anticipate cost of 4/5* going down by a hundred. Not crafting is a bit tougher of a prospect when you you only have one 5* item though. :( Progression=fun/rewarding. If i'm not progressing i may as well not play until i do plan to progress. Lol sounds bleak :D

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 06:53
#10
Syor
Legacy Username
Actually,

I wanted to say. Leave for two week, and then return to see if there's new content. That's probably the best idea if you've got nothing to do or.

If not,

Go watch 'Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann' :P

@hdurk, JK is still profitable but not as much as how I normally would profit from.

@urk, He got banned because Eury had to personally clear Skype's (%(*^(*%)%) from the past.<--- From what I looked, yea she was probably clearing your past (^)(^)&_)_)^&$

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 06:55
#11
Pawn's picture
Pawn
@ syor

I'm lost. You mean clear cuss words and offensive language?

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 07:04
#12
Etendue's picture
Etendue
JK=not as profitable. You get

JK=not as profitable. You get like no tokens at all unless you do a full run. That makes the antigua/sealed swords series more expensive, but you need to unbind them (yet to be introduced), which ends up costing you much more.

Crowns were always only about 70 percent of the profit. Also, CE rose by 1k. That automatically cuts down on profit. Also, more and more of the more experienced players are quitting, which results in less competent Jelly King parties all around. Get ready to be frequently team-stomped by that purple blob. I'm going to stop now, so that godofskype1 doesn't actually quit.

Don't call me hdurk!

For future reference, my ingame is Etendue.

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 07:05
#13
Raul
Yes but what's funny is I

Yes but what's funny is I ALREADY got my warnings from that, that is very unfair that I was banned for something that I had already been warned on and given no penalty. It's also further unfair that there are players that swear WAY worse then I do, especially in the feeback thread and they haven't been banned. If they were past threads, it's in the past and I already got my warnings. I cleaned up my language and my attitude for future posts and yet I was banned. Complete BS, but w/e I probably won't be around for long anyways.

Note: It's only a temp ban, it was about 1-2 day ban, but that's enough for me to start doing some reflecting on if I should waste my time elsewhere.

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 07:06
#14
Pawn's picture
Pawn
@skype

Good news!!!! Based on your complaints of people not using the search engine to search for threads i searched got of skype banned and it took me to the thread about it.

P.S. I think it's a time based thing, but people starting a new thread to say the exact same thing as a current thread on the same page is becoming a pet-peeve of mine.

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 07:12
#15
Tive's picture
Tive
It's rather sad to see a

It's rather sad to see a forum not come with a wordfilter anyway. I mean how would I know what people could consider offensive without heavily investing my time into reading lists of banned words.

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 07:17
#16
Raul
I thought they deleted that

I thought they deleted that thread? What's the title?

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 07:21
#17
Syor
Legacy Username
@Etendue

Oh I was calling you and jedurk together :P

@Raul, Yea you might get a warning, that's just a warning, actual ban is not stated. From what I've seen, Bleagh.

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 07:24
#18
Syor
Legacy Username
It's

in the graveyard. They can't ( or rather it's against their policy as stated by Eurydice) delete threads.

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 07:32
#19
Raul
Is it the I am NOT happy

Is it the I am NOT happy thread? That thread wasn't dead...in fact it had a new post less then 24 hours ago before it was moved there.

I think you misunderstood me. I got TWO warnings, WEEKS apart, after which I cleaned up my language and my attitude. If she went back through my old posts and threads AFTER I was warned for those threads, I SHOULD NOT have gotten a ban.

I haven't sworn excessively for at least 4 days now, despite being banned, despite the horrid state the game is in, and despite the horrid patch.

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 07:54
#20
Syor
Legacy Username
No idea

You'll have to ask eurydice :|

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 08:10
#21
Raul
Like I even care, my ban will

Like I even care, my ban will be lifted soon so it really doesn't matter and my past experiences with bans or community managers is they don't tell ya squat.

This thread wasn't about me being banned it was about me being on the fence about leaving the game for an extended period of time or for good.

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 08:15
#22
Njthug's picture
Njthug
...

Is this topic really needed discussing if you will play or not...why not decide on yourself instead of making it a whole big public discussion. Honestly, this topic should be considered spam.

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 08:19
#23
Raul
I was trying to decide on

I was trying to decide on myself, hence the reasons above, and I was unable to so I sought out help from the community. Afterall, isn't that what a GOOD community is for, to help you with your problmes and be there for you??

NJ you never said anything about me being on your friends list, and yet in my threads you so such hate for me.

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 08:22
#24
Syor
Legacy Username
Heck it

If you have nothing to do, just come online to chat.

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 08:24
#25
Raul
@Syor I mostly did that, I

@Syor I mostly did that, I think it annoyed my guild lul, but I have Skype for that if I just want to chat. It's what I do. I really enjoyed the game till I found out there wasn't much content left and then they killed it by not adding new content, among the other things they did. I just hurts...

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 08:28
#26
Syor
Legacy Username
Owww

Haha you can join my guild *cough*
but yea I didn't went into content just yet and decided to start crafting but that's also because I didn't have the connection speed to go Vana.

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 08:34
#27
1dinosaursqw
Legacy Username
I am also thinking

I am also thinking of quitting this game...There's like hardly any good runs these days =.=

Skype even if you went in-game and wanted to do something other than jelly-runs, u would be doing it solo; its quite saddening. (Like almost zero T3 runs) You should log in and try for yourself

Skype got bought by microsoft for 8.5million o.o (FYI)

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 08:42
#28
Raul
@Syor My connection speed is

@Syor My connection speed is 18mb/s download and it hardly drops, in fact the outage for 2 and half hours earlier that caused that double post, was actually quite odd. They must have been doing node maintenance.

@1dino Is the player population really that low!!? Is it like a Ghost Town now?

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 08:51
#29
Syor
Legacy Username
@skype

my connection speed is 7.2mb/s only and it's an unstabe one, since it's a portal/wireless modem that is shared throughout the whole country, Singapore. and it's because of the service provider, the connection on my task manager can go from good to nothing in seconds and back.

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 08:59
#30
Raul
I prefer my Comodo firewall

I prefer my Comodo firewall for monitoring the incoming and outgoing bandwidth speeds and ports. I can tell when I'm having net issues with it. As for the task manager I use Process Hacker to constantly monitor my kernel output with my cpu output, I know when the kernel usage gets too high it's time for that 2 week restart or I have something locking up the computer. I also keep a eye on my HDD indicator and if it locks up I will go and view the I/O for read and write speeds and find out which program locked up. I also keep an eye on my core temps.

Why is the wireless shared with ALL of Singapore? That's not efficient at all!

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 09:14
#31
1dinosaursqw
Legacy Username
Im singaporean too!

HI5 Syor!

Cause everywhere we go theres free wireless :)
I used home-based lan so im ok

The player populations are really quite low, much of the majority missing are the higher-tiered players and the big CE spenders

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 09:24
#32
Syor
Legacy Username
Woo! Haha

@skype Lol I don't know much about computer specs :/ but i'll try those out Haha. and Singapore is like a small dot on the map so it's shared throughout! Way Bottom of China/Bottom right of Malaysia.

@1dino Yea! I love the free wireless, at times I rather go to a library and play Haha. I'm just a free player that's doing pretty well :)

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 09:29
#33
Raul
-.- those weren't specs Syor,

-.- those weren't specs Syor, they were programs. I fall between the Advanced-Med range when it comes to computer things. About the only thing I don't know is how to deal with REALLY REALLY bad malware infections that destroy the registry, how to rebuild the registry or edit it, and how to code. I also don't know a lot about networking or web coding.

I guess you could say Security is more my forte.

Anwyays, So you guys just use free wireless like you would like at a hotel? NO wonder it sucks, your own dedicated LAN or Wifi network is best for online gaming. Plus you should be extremely leery about using public networks while on social networking sites or banking sites, people can capture data packets and network traffic and be malicious with it.

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 09:42
#34
Lusty's picture
Lusty
You should leave, no,

You should leave, no, seriously, if a change like this gets so deep in you then yeah, leave SK, download some emulators and keep the remaining of your days playing it safe.

Pros: youll be in a safe zone (emotionally).
Cons: no more drama for those drama hungry forum members.

Personally i dont like a couple of the changes but that doesnt puts me in your position. I can honestly say ill wait and see how things turn out, and also i can honestly say i try to refrain from all this drama (this being my only post about it).

Im also a paying member, ive spent around 20 USD in here, anyway, yeah, go play Terraria, GL HF :).

Lusty out.

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 09:45
#35
Raul
Hah if only I could afford to

Hah if only I could afford to play Terraria but noooooo, I gave my money to OOO instead.

I probably won't leave for good unless they do nothing to improve what they did, idk I still haven't decided yet.

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 10:03
#36
kevomatic
Legacy Username
You start thread after thread

You start thread after thread of whining... sounds like you should quit.

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 10:04
#37
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Eurydice
Community Manager
I think you misunderstood me.

I think you misunderstood me. I got TWO warnings, WEEKS apart, after which I cleaned up my language and my attitude. If she went back through my old posts and threads AFTER I was warned for those threads, I SHOULD NOT have gotten a ban.

I haven't sworn excessively for at least 4 days now, despite being banned, despite the horrid state the game is in, and despite the horrid patch.

Actually, I specifically went and looked at the date of your last warning, and then as I was reading your forum posts on the 18th of May, I saw you still engaging in the same behavior you were previously warned about. I passed that info and a link to the relevant swearing along to support, your case was reviewed, and action, as you have noted, was taken. If you're looking to appeal this, you can do so via http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Support_Portal.

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 15:58
#38
Wfawwer's picture
Wfawwer
...

If you leave, can i have some of your crowns?
:P

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 16:04
#39
Syor
Legacy Username
Owww,

that was pretty screwed up lol

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 16:21
#40
srathek
Legacy Username
I am accepting all quitting

I am accepting all quitting member's items and currency at this time

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 16:47
#41
Lokr
@ GodofSkype1 I too feel your

@ GodofSkype1

I too feel your pain. I have vowed to not to buy CE (lucky I haven't) after this patch.

I was playing the way a collector would, buying a bunch of recipes and only crafting the main gear for Duke. Sure my goal was to have all the recipes and then gear in the game to try it all out. Now those plans are no more. Yea, I get screwed by items for clients binding, I also don't get the refunds of all those learned recipes in my collection. But yea, mostly play AH now just for fun and blow my mist on some t3.

It's sad that I too, have not done Vanaduke. I was in the process of gearing up for him this week though....what bad timing (I solo t3 most of the time for the profits). I'm not ready to blow more CE to finish my Blitzneedle though. Pretty much stopped all crafting besides 2* and one 3*.

Anyways, if you wanna hit the Duke with a newb, let me know lol (most of my guildies are gone also). I just want to kill him once and go play Terraria. No more content.

Because really, this patch is like surprise butt ****. Do not want.

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 17:35
#42
Negimasonic's picture
Negimasonic
yeah I also have an all

yeah I also have an all recipe goal, but I had very little intention of making every item so for now I'm ok. Going to probably stop at 3* for now...even though I received major help on this goal from a quitting player, there's still more to pursue. I'm getting close though =x But now it looks like I'm going to have to spend major time collecting energy. I thought having a 1000 base was enough but nope... that's barely one item now hahaha... and gate picking is harder with people quitting and partying screwed up.

Anyway, to Skype himself, do what you think is best. If you aren't getting enjoyment out of this, then there's no point. I say take a break, see what happens in awhile. If you don't want to give it a chance, well, dump your items 8D

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 19:29
#43
Raul
@Eurydice When did you become

@Eurydice When did you become an Admin? I thought you were a Community Manager, shouldn't your title reflect that?

Thank you for clarifying that you didn't happen along my old posts and mistakenly ban me for them. You are doing it right.

Why appeal? the ban will be lifted in a few hours, but I do have to say if I did swear it was probably like 1 or 2 words, and I DO NOT consider that excessive which IS what I was warned about.

Guys I never said I was perma quitting, I'm just so lost..

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 19:32
#44
Wfawwer's picture
Wfawwer
Hoping you stay

Well, I hope that you stay.
The world needs a couple of professional trolls.

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 20:13
#45
Raul
I'M NOT A TROLL. If you want

I'M NOT A TROLL.

If you want to call me anything, call me a gadfly or a truth sayer. I'm neither pessimist nor optimist, I am a realist. I tell it how I see it. Like I said in one of my previous threads, I often get mistaken for a troll when I am not, nor have I ever been.

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 22:47
#46
mirrorminx
Legacy Username
I'm glad you care

I do a lot of reading on the forums, and not a lot of posting. And I can say, even though you are often brusque, you obviously seriously care about the quality of the game as well as the quality of its players, at least how I see it.

Thanks for giving a lot of your time to the forums, even if a lot of it is anger at people re-asking questions, or asking questions you think are stupid, or at updates that frustrate you. I feel like I know firmly how you feel about most of spiral knights at this point. And I probably don't.

You have a lot of opinions, and you share them. Its nice to see someone express how they feel so fully.

I'd love to play Terraria with you sometime. My Steam name is Incentas.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 00:31
#47
Raul
I just got gifted Terraria

I just got gifted Terraria about an hour ago so this is pretty good timing yah? I'm new to it and trying to figure out multiplayer -.-.

I have always been one to express myself fully after I matured and got away from my sheltered home. That's probably why I am the way I am.

I do care about the game and it's just like WHAT WERE THEY THINKING with this latest update that not only killed the economy, crafting, ce prices, it also killed the game population. From what I have heard it's pretty bad.

There were many many OTHER ways to solve the problem of people advancing far too quickly then driving up the cost. Also, don't get me wrong I dont mind a SLIGHT increase in ce prices but this was just too drastic, and then they plan this unbind shop???, I don't see how it's going to change a thing.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 00:43
#48
Loki
Legacy Username
Nobody will ever receive a

Nobody will ever receive a refund, just like basically all other MMOs operate.

You donate money to them because it's your choice to, regardless of what anyone says. Eventually, you don't like the game anymore, for whatever reason, then you leave. You don't get your money back, sorry, that's not how it works.

All MMOs change over time, and they all receive good and bad changes over time. Either you stay or you don't, but honestly not a single person cares if you stay or leave.

This is an ''I need attention'' thread.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 00:47
#49
Raul
Actually Loki you are right I

Actually Loki you are right I do need attention, and there is nothing wrong with that.

However you are wrong about people not caring that I would leave. I have gotten many a post and msg saying I shouldn't.

I called upon the community for help as well, there is nothing wrong with this either.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 04:09
#50
Raul
and bump

and bump

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