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I want to make a bomber set.. Suggestions?

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Fri, 09/20/2013 - 11:43
Holdeon's picture
Holdeon

Alright, so.. I want to make a bomber set.. Any suggestions? I like swords, but I haven't really tried out bombs yet.. Or rather, I have, but a long time ago on another account. I also read the bombing guide on the wiki, but I can't quite make my mind.. My current main loadout is..

Helmet: Miracle Hood, low poison UV (Thinking about divine veil or chaos, suggestions would be nice)
Armor: Skolver Coat (yes i'm a half clone, so what)
Shield: Grey Owlite Shield
Trinkets: none
Weapons: I have 2 slots, and I alternate between glacius, grand flourish, and faust for the job. Though, i'm probably gonna get another slot soon...

I like doing arcade runs, but i'm only defender elite, so I don't really have the ability to go to vanaduke instantly, done that (without completing the boss) a few times.. I mainly go solo on elite T3 arcade runs, and I do danger rooms whenever I find them. Also, i'm not seizure prone, so im okay with those flashy bombs..

Bomb/bomber gear I have
1 spiral demo helm,
1 splinter bomb
1 blast bomb
Everything else is below 2*.

Im thinking on getting and using the Volcanic Demo set, seems safer than going with chaos. Also, Nitronome looks like a really, really awesome bomb..

So what do you think? I hope I provided enough information for people to make informed choices o_o

TL;DR: I want to know what bombs/bomber gear I should use so I can help destroy everything!

Fri, 09/20/2013 - 12:19
#1
Little-Juances's picture
Little-Juances

http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Bomber

Fri, 09/20/2013 - 12:40
#2
Poopsie's picture
Poopsie
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just silly post...

Nitronome, Dark Briar Barrage and Dark Retribution (this one DLC unfortunately) would be the best dps bombs. But I found big angry bomb has the most fun. Any shard bomb has lower dps compared to these three unfortunately.
Haze bombs is good too, combination fire + shock would definitely kills any monsters that has no resistance.
Poison bombs is really good against healer, especially when you are at arcade arena.
Stun bomb helps at party, not so much at solo because you don't really need it.
Shock bomb best combined with vortex bomb.
I know I speak too soon but also consider the shadow lair version of bomber. What I think the best optimized uv you could get is...
Black Cat Kowl + Mercurial Demo Suit + Damage Bomb Trinket + CTR Bomb Trinket + Swifstrike Buckler (unless you go hard places, use 5* shields) + CTR Med Bombs or alternate between chaos + volcanic demo + mercurial demo + trinkets + uv bombs.
This set gives you, Bomb Damage Max, CTR Bomb Max, Movement Speed Increase: Very High (with MSI med from battle sprite), and universal asi high.
And like your equipment set, you could go half and half instead of full chaos or full volcanic demo.

I still have bitterness with freeze bomb because of endless FSC party, sorry for being bias ;x

Fri, 09/20/2013 - 12:54
#3
Bopp's picture
Bopp
he's already read the bombing guide

Little-Juances, he said that he's already read the bombing guide. Let's not scold him when he did the right thing.

Holdeon, here are the important facts from your post:

  • You solo a lot. So you want to use damage bombs in addition to support bombs. So you benefit from all abilities: damage bonus, CTR, MSI. (If you played in parties, and you were focused on support bombs, then you wouldn't need damage bonus as much.)
  • You don't have big CTR UVs on your bombs yet, and you may not have them any time soon, as you're just trying out bombing for now.
  • You play with only two weapon slots and no trinket slots. So all of your abilities come from helmet, suit, and sprite perk.
  • You haven't mentioned Black Kat Cowl, so you probably don't have it.

You'd like to get 16 points worth of abilities (CTR+6, damage+6, MSI+4). With Chaos, you can amass 12 points total. (I'm including CTR+2 from heat level 10 and something+2 from sprite perk.) The same goes for Mad Bomber, but ignore that set entirely. With Volcanic Demo, Bombastic Demo, or Mercurial Demo (or a mix of them), you can amass 8 points total. With a mix of Chaos and something else, you can amass 10 points total. So you have to decide how offensive you want to be, and pick one. I'd go for CTR before everything else, myself. But if you can get bombs with CTR UVs, then you'll want to get damage bonus and MSI from your armor instead.

As far as choosing bombs goes, you haven't asked anything specific enough. Read the Bombing Guide again? Make sure you try a blast bomb, a haze bomb, a vortex bomb, and a shard bomb, just to sample the variety available.

Sat, 09/21/2013 - 07:57
#4
Holdeon's picture
Holdeon
Cool, thanks

I'm not that rich, so I can't really get CTR UV's on my bombs..

and, @Bopp: Yeah, I don't have a black kat cowl.

I went to the advanced training hall, and tried out a shard bomb and a blast bomb, and on my previous knight I used vortexes and a fire haze bomb. I liked both of those.. so..
I think the loadout im gonna go for is..

Chaos Hood, i'll use it for my 5* hall of heroes set, so may as well use it in my bomber set
Volcanic Demo Suit
(10 points, under bopp's list.)

Its in between "safety" and "if I get hit by something that inflicts a status, im dead"

Bombs: Nitronome, maybe BAB, for my first bomb, and then get graviton vortex and the shock haze bomb. (shock grouping with vortexes, anyone?) Shard bombs don't really seem to be for me..

Maybe get a trinket for extra bomb damage, not CTR because i'll get very high from my armor, and I will probably be able to heat up my 5* items to level 10 and get a CTR med.

Thanks! (If anyone else has something else to say, go ahead, always looking for more opinions)

Sat, 09/21/2013 - 08:20
#5
Pahkah
Which path am I going to become?

Current equip
-fraust
-spike/spine cone or bomb -1star
-dusk cap from wolves cap
-dusk amour
-swift shield
- healer pet
__intentionly want to equip when R8-1_
-grant fraust
-snarbled amour & cap
-dark briar barrage bomb
-barbarous thorn shield
- Polaris gun from gigawatt
____pls help me___

Sat, 09/21/2013 - 09:03
#6
Bopp's picture
Bopp
response

Holdeon, your plan is good: You have CTR+6, damage+2. Use your sprite perk to get an additional damage+2, MSI+2, or status defense. Your bomb choices seem good. Bombing is fun, although it takes a while to master. (I haven't mastered it myself.) Enjoy.

Pahkah, it's not clear what you want help with. You seem to have your plan figured out. If not, you might benefit from reading my detailed sword guide.

Sun, 09/22/2013 - 03:08
#7
Awoogawooga
Looks good, it seems very

Looks good, it seems very balanced. Vortex and Voltaic Tempest is indeed crazy good. The more enemies the better. It seems to me that Nitronome will be more for defense and finishing off the last couple enemies.

I dunno about getting a trinket for bomb damage though. I guess it depends on what's going to be your main damage dealer. Personally, I only have 2 weapon slots, so I use the Graviton Vortex/Voltaic Tempest combo whenever I can. The damage this combo deals comes more from Shock rather than the actual explosions. So a bomb damage trinket doesn't seem optimal.

If Nitronome is going to be your primary damage dealer, the trinket makes sense, but you might want to reconsider Graviton Vortex. VT will remain useful regardless, but if you're going to solo and Nitro-spam, then GV might be a bit of a hindrance? GV takes awhile to charge up and it'll slow your movement down. Nitro's blastiness means you wouldn't need to gather everyone together with GV, especially if you're going to solo. Instead, you'd want something to slow down the enemies, like VT.

I can see getting GV if you're getting Dark Briar Barrage rather than Nitronome, since you can overlay several DBB on the gathered enemies. But doesn't Nitro's knockback make it a one-hit type?

If Nitro's going to be your primary damage dealer, you might want to consider replacing GV with Venom Veiler. Especially if you're going to solo T3 and do Danger Rooms. I find the menders in T3 to be super annoyingly effective. As a bomber, I can wipe out dozens of enemies in the blink of an eye, but if I don't get that Mender, those last 1 or 2 enemies are nigh impossible to kill. A poison haze bomb would fix that issue, and it'd improve your general survivability and damage dealing as well.

That's just my opinion though, bear in mind I'm hardly a top tier bomber and my experience with blast bombs is minimal outside of DBB (I like playing in parties, so knockback annoys me)

Sun, 09/22/2013 - 13:26
#8
Noogard's picture
Noogard
Graviton sucks in comparison =/

Rather than going for shock haze and vortex, it might be a good idea to do [some] lockdown and get the Electron Vortex. Albeit far more time consuming, the EV is by far and large better than the Graviton Vortex.

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