This is for anyone involved with the game development, or anyone who wants to share their ideas or complaints. The Question: Would it be possible for Spiral Knights to appear on console? (Or do you want it on console)
Spiral Knights For Console?
Tue, 09/24/2013 - 10:14
Tue, 09/24/2013 - 10:20
#2
I hear that the PS4 will have
I hear that the PS4 will have some Java compatible ports in their console. (If im not mistaken of course) Yet, didn't minecraft hit the marketplace last year? Isn't that made using Java aswell?
Tue, 09/24/2013 - 10:20
#3
No.
There is no console currently out yet that supports Java, which is what Spiral Knights is run on. Unless the devs feel like wasting time away from developing new things for the game on recoding EVERYTHING just so we can play SK on a stupid box, I don't think so. If you're going to say something like, '' It'd be cool to play this game on my big tv! '' lemme just say this: It's called an HDMI cable. Don't have one? Buy one. There's another cable you can use as well, but I forgot the name, but basically, this question is just a flatout no. The only way I see this ever making it to a console is IF it's compatible with this:
http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamOS/
This, of course, will just be limited to people who use Steam, so if you aren't on Steam, sucks for you.
Tue, 09/24/2013 - 10:26
#4
Theres a lot more to playing
Theres a lot more to playing a game on a big screen. And just because you don't like the idea of playing it on a stupid box, doesn't meen others wouldn't mind giving it a try. There are others that cant use a computer to play games on. But of course im not a techie nerd or anything so I wouldn't know the trouble of getting it on console. If its a flat out no then it a no, but how did Minecraft for example get on colsole?
Tue, 09/24/2013 - 10:28
#5
@Skeleron
The difference is that Minecraft has probably set some kind of record for sales numbers and popularity, while Spiral Knights is far more obscure. Also, Mojang sells Minecraft and has an incentive to see it distributed as widely as possible, while Spiral Knights is FtP and OOO doesn't have a incentive to distribute it. Mojang also has the resources to recode Minecraft, but OOO doesn't.
Tue, 09/24/2013 - 10:33
#6
Aah, Ok that makes a lot more
Aah, Ok that makes a lot more sense. I guess ill just have to w8t and see what happens, and what ever this is about. >w< http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamOS/
Tue, 09/24/2013 - 10:48
#7
Minecraft had to be ported to C++ to run on xbox. And it's a dumbed down version that isn't up to date compared to PCs.
Another important difference is that minecraft games are hosted in different servers. There are different 'worlds'.
SK is one big MMO. You wouldn't be able to play with a friend on PC or viceversa.
Tue, 09/24/2013 - 10:53
#8
Steam OS
It's an operating system that's supposed to be built up-to-par to handle all games available on Steam with a Linux engine. Many of the games will be directly accessible through the system while others will be streamed through the Steam Cloud. Basically, any game on your library will be playable on the system.
But that brings the problem that L-J brought up: People on the SOS will only be able to play with players on Steam rather than being able to play with everyone else (people who play directly from the site and Kongregate)
Tue, 09/24/2013 - 10:53
#9
Big picture on steam
Couldn't you just play using steams big picture mode?
Tue, 09/24/2013 - 10:56
#10
@Blades-Of-Grass
Read here:
http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/
I don't know if you can with SK, but that still brings the point that this person would have to be a Steam player. I'm trying to tell him that so far, no consoles are available that even support Java except for maybe the SOS but even that's an uncertainty.
Tue, 09/24/2013 - 11:00
#11
Alright but just because the
Alright but just because the game is open-world MMO doesn't make its un-able to run on console. I've heard of many open world games coming up on Next-Gen consoles. (Destiny for example)
Tue, 09/24/2013 - 11:13
#12
That's not the point.
The point is that
1) In order to put it on any console that isn't compatible with Java, the entire coding of the game has to be converted and rewritten in order to work
2) OOO doesn't have that many paying players in order to fund that kind of project
& 3) It would only work with people who play it on that console (you wouldn't be able to play with people from the site or on Kongregate) which takes out A TON of players, so you'd have such tiny amount of people playing on it that it would just be pointless.
Tue, 09/24/2013 - 11:25
#13
Think of it this way...
Would you rather have new content, or a console port?
Tue, 09/24/2013 - 11:40
#14
Traevelliath is correct. A console port is not the top priority.
Especially since a console port would add no value to existing players. You get nothing new out of it.
Doesn't mean that a console port wouldn't (or couldn't) be a thing of the future, but it would be much further down the line. A lot of people want to see the new Arcade, the Core, the advancement of the storyline and bosses, improvements or additions to PVP.
It would be best not to distract them from the top priority (gameplay) than its distribution (console ports).
Tue, 09/24/2013 - 14:11
#15
Nahh.
Waste O' time.
Tue, 09/24/2013 - 14:12
#16
This is terrible. Go look at my awesome thread instead.
Any chance we can get Eurydice to graveyard this?
Tue, 09/24/2013 - 15:58
#17
You are experiencing a PICNIC ERROR!
Well, we just need Spiral Knights on Steam under Linux. Then you can have your SK on SteamOS.
Tue, 09/24/2013 - 19:44
#18
Ya. I did some research and
Ya. I did some research and apparently SK should run with Linux without problem, so whose to say it wont work with SteamOS.
Tue, 09/24/2013 - 21:07
#19
"Doesn't mean that a console port wouldn't (or couldn't) be a thing of the future"
Haha, I'm waiting for the ipod nano version.
Tue, 09/24/2013 - 22:04
#20
You are experiencing a PICNIC ERROR!
Ya. I did some research and apparently SK should run with Linux without problem, so whose to say it wont work with SteamOS.
apparently SK should run with Linux without problem
SK should run with Linux
should
I play SK on Linux 80% of the time. I don't like that should...make it a 'does'
Wed, 09/25/2013 - 06:37
#21
meh.
1. You need tons of money to get a game on a console.
2. You can play Spiral Knights on the Big TV screen with a VGA or HDMI cable
Wed, 09/25/2013 - 07:35
#22
But which consoles will run Linux?
1) install a Linux distro on your console
2) Get a well supported openGL driver for its GPU
3) install java
4) ???
5) Profit!
The catch is being able to use Linux on your console
Wed, 09/25/2013 - 08:14
#23
my 2 cents
Can we please stop with the "java cannot run on X device" arguement
Java run everywhere, indie XBL games are java, Minecraft is Java, your car (if you drive one) has java IN IT, YES! It software uses JAVA CODES... OMG
Minecraft pocket is made out of java...
There's java everywhere!!!!!
STAHP!!!!!
Wed, 09/25/2013 - 08:22
#24
My coffee runs on Java.
My coffee runs on Java.
..
Anyway, console ports usually mean that the controls are significantly worse, bad anti-cheating protection-- shoot, doesn't anybody remember TF2's 360 port?
Although although although, Quake 3 shared servers between Dreamcast and PC, but also also also it's a different case.
Wed, 09/25/2013 - 08:19
#25
@Shamanala
Can we please stop with the "java cannot run on X device" arguement
It is a valid argument. Code-based support issues is the biggest obstacle a developer has to face when making a game cross-platformable.
Wed, 09/25/2013 - 08:36
#26
my 2 cents
@ Hexzyle and the most known and also the most countered in the gaming industry, yes... how what a good arguement...
Change code, problem solve... need man power to do so, OOO doesn't have enough
*keep turning in circle*
'round and around we go....
if you want it on console, then do eet yourself
Wed, 09/25/2013 - 18:03
#27
@battlegrinder
You sure? What about the new next gens?
Wed, 09/25/2013 - 20:42
#28
Imagine. Filling Vanaduke's
Imagine. Filling Vanaduke's barely-existant face full of golden needles in my living room with full surround sound. IF ONLY I CAN GET BIG PICTURE ON MY WII! >:O
Wed, 09/25/2013 - 20:45
#29
Big Screen.
You can quite literally connect a more modern TV with an HDMI to any comp.
Wed, 09/25/2013 - 20:51
#30
^ Yep. Now...
Let me try to adjust my PC's control pad to Spiral Knights again.
Wed, 09/25/2013 - 20:52
#31
^
Or, you know...just use a USB keyboard.
Wed, 09/25/2013 - 21:20
#32
Some people rather a controller. Why, I'll never know.
I could probably just google it though. If I was that interested. Which I'm not. I'll probably find out one day in my travels across the internet.
Wed, 09/25/2013 - 21:57
#33
"Some people rather a controller. Why, I'll never know."
Some people rather a Keyboard and Mouse. Why, I'll never know.
Honestly, from my perspective, it's more comfortable than playing with a Keyboard, and I always grew up playing on Consoles than Mouse and Keyboard. It's just a generalized opinion on what you prefer.
Thu, 09/26/2013 - 01:46
#34
With a wireless controller
With a wireless controller you can do more comfortable things like lay on a couch, bed, or just raise your legs and lean back in a nice comfy chair.
If OOO added highlights and scrolling for the menus and a way to access them easier then a controller would be easy to use.
Thu, 09/26/2013 - 02:13
#35
I find no difference in
I find no difference in comfort between the two options.
I prefer keyboard due to the sheer ease of access to a vast array of input. Not to mention most keyboards are universal, while each controller can vary.
I find mice have not only better precision, but higher max speed than a joystick/toggle. With a controller, due to the limit on input (the edge of the toggle's reach) only one or the other is really possible.
And finally, I can achieve a higher level of reaction speed, duration precision, and repeats when my finger is facing down on an input device rather than lying across it.
Wireless connectivity is not solely exclusive to handheld controllers, if you weren't aware.
Thu, 09/26/2013 - 08:15
#36
SteamOS and Big Picture
SteamOS and Big Picture Mode
this will blow PS and Xbox away
Thu, 09/26/2013 - 10:09
#37
The Steambox (Valve's set-top
The Steambox (Valve's set-top console) is said to be running a custom Linux distro that will allow users to install other platforms aside from Steam, such as EA's Origin service (barf). I don't see why one wouldn't be able to install other games, such as the non-Steam SK client.
Thu, 09/26/2013 - 10:28
#38
@Dirt
You're referring to Steam OS, not their console. I haven't looked into it too much but I'm guessing the Steambox is just more or less going to work as any PC which means that you should be able to install any OS you can install on any regular PC on the Steambox.
Spiral Knights probably won't ever have a console port. IIRC, most consoles don't support Java, and that's the language Spiral Knights is programmed in.