- Would you be interested in PVP at all?
Yeah SURE! When i saw videos on youtube from preview event, i got excited! Every good game has a pvp, because is something good to spend time when you are bored!
- What kind of PVP are you in to, or would be in to with Spiral Knights? Casual or more hardcore? Mario Party or Counterstrike?
Like minigames i guess, you enter in a map full of guys, and the guy who kills more in a time atack gains crown or ce, maybe somekind of token to trade for some rare equipaments! Can be in (party/solo/gvg) (2x2, 3x3, 5x5)! To enter pvp we should spend a little amount of crown, NOT CE PLZ ¬¬
- What is your favorite competitive video game?
Ragnarok pvp is fine, Ragnarok war of emperium is awesome! I like wow´s battleground too.

Bomberman-style PVP?? The unbreakable boxes already prevent damage through them so it is pretty much the same 'single file' bomb except for visuals if you make the map in a similar style.

holy cow batman!!! awesome!!

also, how about a DotA style game? 2 teams, mobs go fight each other through a couple of lanes, either some flag to capture in the opposite base or a boss mob to kill...

From someone who's favorite genre of game is defined by Street Fighter, I'd like to address this one question:

"- What kind of PVP are you in to, or would be in to with Spiral Knights? Casual or more hardcore? Mario Party or Counterstrike?"

There's nothing stopping you from offering two separate modes: one that is more interesting to casual players, and another that is more interesting to the hardcore players. Something that relies on very little randomness that's almost entirely a competition of direct player skill is good for players who are definitely looking to pit themselves and their skills in a hardcore way. Likewise, a mode that is completely zany and hilarious will be well received by the casual players, and will get a lot of interest from the hardcore players as well as a way to let off steam.

The hardcore players will pitch more money into the game and work harder to make themselves as possibly optimal when it comes to competing in the hardcore mode as they can, and there's nothing stopping you from making a separate casual mode that will let these same players compete against the casual players without letting their much, much better equipment give them a completely insurmountable advantage.

There's ways to please both parties here and it'd be a fantastic idea to address everyone's needs and interests, and I think it would be very easy for you to simply implement two separate modes -- and it'd be great for the community and game interest altogether.

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I would love PvP, but I can't imagine it being very hardcore in this game: it's just too unbalanced* ; / I'm sure that would change over time, but for any kind of rewards it would be unfair to really make things TOO competitive.

That said, a separate "no cost, no reward" section for simple dueling would be neat.

Speaking of cost and reward, my only thing with PvP is that I think making it cost energy would be a terrible idea, even if it rewarded crowns somehow. Make it cost crowns to participate, even if more crowns are the reward (maybe in some kind of pot system where two duelers pay 100/200/300/400/500 crowns and whoever wins gets the other person's payment (- a 10% fee or something). This could also work with team "Capture the Crystal" play too, with each player on each team paying into the pot and the winning team getting the other team's share.

It would of course also have to balance players into gear brackets: 1-2* gear in one, 3-4* gear in another, 5* gear on its own (it can't follow the dungeon tier divisions of 0-1, 2-3, 4-5 because the difference between 2* and 3* gear is phenomenally large compared to any other jump, and the 2-3* bracket would be dominated by "twinks" in full 3* gear).

Overall though, can't wait to see it.

*Incase anyone's wondering what balance issues I'm referring to, here's just a few:

-All gear that gives bonus damage to a certain type of enemy would be undervalued (undead, fiend, beast... essentially a wasted bonus).
-All gear that gives status resistance to things no player-used weapons apply would be undervalued (sleep (none), poison (2 weapons, 1 a bomb), shock (1 gun, no 5* sword or bomb that does it))
-Freeze would be an OP mechanic, especially with the Shivermist in its current incarnation. Some kind of Diminishing Return on status effects would be warranted.
-Swords would dominate completely: successful gunslingers would be few and far between when three seconds of swordswipes can do more damage than 15 seconds of blasting away, slowed or immobilized all the while, and unable to block during sprays (autogun line) or reloads.

Curse would be an interesting inversion of the above: Only Faust line does it, but it's such an oft-used weapon that many would probably find curse-resistant gear necessary, which might devalue it in return. That's one of the more interesting dynamics though.

Also, costume gear would have to be disabled for PvP to make any kind of judgement fair, and it might be necessary to limit weapon/trinket slot use (or have a separate tier for people who have any unlocked).

I love pvp games and would love pvp to come to Spiral Knights.

- I would HATE it if it cost a whole bunch more ce b/c (removed) we're tapped out enough on that department as it is -_-

- I think for this game a more casual pvp would be better since the slightest lag could ruin any serious competition...

- My favorite competitive games are League of Legends, Super Street Fighter 4, MAG. But I pretty much ONLY play competitive games (and spiral knights, strange isn't it?)

GM Edit: language.

Said it once, will say it again:

PvP must be accessible by anyone, easy to pick up and fun to play. Going with the statement mentioned, I am strongly against any form of hardcore elitist interaction. Things that promote rage like AoS-format gameplay should be eliminated and things that promote go-solo rambo god type players should also be discouraged.

While its nice to have cooperative centric games, its NOT fun when someone starts to rage at the other guys. Oh and, screw guild battles that encourage the whole guild vs guild drama.

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1. YAY !
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2. Auction House listing fee refunds would be nice. That's anything I want to happen to the AH Sir Nick... ( What should I call you by the way ? :L )
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=A. YES.
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=B. The PvP that I see in youtube BUT--- With different changes like :
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- Tier 1 PvP lounge - Wherein People who have not been in Tier 2 are welcome. ( Or at most 1 star gear. )
= It would be a normal arena. With many life regenerators.
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- Tier 2 PvP lounge - Wherein People who have not been in Tier 3 are welcome. ( Or at most 2 star gear. ) ( Including the Tier 1 guys if they feel like they want a challenge. )
= It would be a normal arena or an arena with Tier 1 monsters. ( Excluding Alpha Wolvers. ) With medium life generators.
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- Tier 3 PvP lounge - Wherein People who have not yet that much pride are welcome. ( Or at most 4-star gear. ) ( Including previous Tiers who feel like they want a challenge. )
= It would be a normal arena, a Tier 1 monsters arena or a Tier 2 monsters arena. With small life generators.
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- Tier 4 PvP lounge - Wherein people who think they are awesome, powerful, epic, and superbly great are welcome. ( All gears welcome. ) (Including previous Tiers who feel like they want a challenge. )
= Ir would be a normal arena, a Tier 1 monsters arena, a Tier 2 monsters arena or a Tier 3 monsters arena ! With absolutely NO life generators. Why ? Because the people who go here are awesome.

+= NO ENERGY / CROWNS NEEDED TO ENTER THE ARENA FOR TIERS 1 and 2. ( Pppppllllleeeeeeaaaasssseeeee ? ) :( [ we already have a CE price problem. ]
- The payout and scoring -

Tier 1 ||| Each kill - 1 point, each point = 100 crowns. Each death - -2 points. ( Fair enough ? )
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Tier 2 ||| Each kill - 2 points, each point = 150 crowns. Each death - -3 points. ( Is it too much ? )
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Tier 3 ||| Entrance - 3 CE / 250 crowns ||| Each kill - 3 points, each point = 300 crowns !, Each death - -4 points.
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Tier 4 ||| Entrance - 5 CE / 400 crowns ||| Each kill - 5 points, each point = still, 300 crowns., each death - -4 points.
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The Loser ( Lowest number of points ) will only be given half the prize per point ( Which means : if he loses a Tier 1 PvP with 4 points, he gets 1/2 of 400 which is 200. ). If CE was purchased for entrance, half of the crowns entrance will be given.
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What do you think ? I think I might add a * restricted to Tier # players ONLY *... and a... * LOBBY - Locked, Free, Friends, Guild, GUILD WAR *... To it, how does that sound ? ( GUILD WAR ! )

- MAX PLAYERS -
Tier 1 - 4
Tier 2 - 6
Tier 3 - 8
Tier 4 - 12 ( Laaaaaag ! )

- The other ideas -
( Patito's )
= Deathmatch - Kill # of knights to win !
= Capture the flag - It's capture - the - flag.
= King of the hill - Stay on top of the ( area ) long enough to win !
= Team Deathmatch = It's either friends vs Other friend's friends or GUILD WAR.
( Mine )
= Duel - One on One ! First to die loses !
= Jackhammerin' Jellies = Kill as many jellies as you can, after the time has ran out. The highest kills win !
% Entrance fee - 500 crowns %
% Max Players - 8 %
+ Mini - 1 point ( It's EVERYWHERE ! )
+ Normal - 3 points ( Epic chance of appearing. )
+ Explodo-slime thing - 5 points ( Slight chance of appearing. )
+ Lichen - 1 point ( Good chance of appearing. )
+ Lichen Colony - 7 points ( Appear - When Lichens merge. )
+ Large Lichen Colony - 10 points ( Appear - When Lichens merge. )
+ Royal Jelly ( Appears after 45 seconds, the timer freezes until it has been killed. ) - 100 points.
: Rewards :
1st place - 5000 Crowns
2nd place - 3000 Crowns
3rd place - 1500 Crowns
4th to Last - 500c crowns
Note : This will cause MASSIVE lag, so I suggest having only 10-20 jellies spawning.
Note : This will be a better, more fun, time-consuming, boredom-killing, money-earning way ! So that the increasing trade crowns for CE prices will be easily overwhelmed.
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THERE WILL BE ==--++|| NO ||++--== HEAT IN THE PVP ARENAS. Not even a teenie-tiny-micro-mini-UBER-small-atom-sized-particle-looking-small piece of heat.

( Of course most players will just keep on PvP-ing, and forget about the clockworks. But they need HEAT to level up their gear so ol' clockworks will forever live ! [ Plus, tokens, more crowns and heat are there. { People who wat to win PvP matches will firstly go in the clockworks to level up their gear first. }])

That's the idea !

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My favorite competitive video game is Counter-Strike : Source and Left 4 Dead 2.
- blitzkrieg47 ( IGN - Ecnalite )
I hope you like the suggestion ! :3

I have been thinking about this for a while. First off, my favorite game to play on a competitive level is Super Smash Bros Brawl. Since it is not a combo based fighter with a direction influenced jump and move pattern, it makes it so you don't have to have extraordinary reflexes to play and the normal person can get good at it.

Now onto this game

PvP and PvE should be separated. PVE with it's lifebars is an amazing idea. When considering PvP, you should consider the fact that life bars are not going to work. Armors should be converted to Hp during PvP along with your character.

Now, Armor for PvP armors should not be valid for PvE and should be leveled on a point system based on how well you play in PvP. Similer like WoWs honor system.

Playing players should be based on Point Rank. If you have someone new to the PvP system, you don't want them going up against an experienced PvP player.

When designing armors, to create diversity, balance on weapons and armors should be created to give equal chance and uniqueness. I absolutely hate when there is one set of armor and weapons that dominate everything. It's like an easy button. You want someone with skill to be able to pick his own set and play well instead of just picking the op set. Balance in weapons and armor will be the most important part of a PvP system.

Now for how armors and weapons are bought and made, Vendors in the PvP should sell based on rank. Switching recipes only once a day at midnight IGT. I have to do more thinking to this last concept but this is how it should be

Pretty much Separate PvP armor from PvE armors (or convert to hp for PvP). A PvP rank system should be in order to promote fairness. A strategic metagame for PvP should be in place with Balanced weapons and gears. And for the love of god, don't make it wicked difficult to upgrade. I don't know how CR and CE will fit into these.

A problem I do see with my idea is the Cr Ce. If you keep the alching the same way, you need to work twice as hard in the clockworks to get the crs needed to upgrade. And as we all know, many people arent willing to pay money to upgrade buy CE. I have hypothesized a sloppy solution to this though. The solution is a membership. Not make everyone pay to play, but only the people who want it. In the P2P version, Ce cost of crafting should be cut inhalf, and .5 more Cr for every 1 Cr should be obtained from drops.
It's sloppy but still a solution. I'd say a 5-10 dollar monthly membership fee wouldn't be to bad. And I'd be the first to sign up. Thank you for listening.

If you have corrections on this, I would love to read them. Pretty much the only thing I care about in PvP is balance. I don't want to lose to some Scrub player because he has the best and no skill.

- Would you be interested in PVP at all?
Yup!

- What kind of PVP are you in to, or would be in to with Spiral Knights? Casual or more hardcore? Mario Party or Counterstrike?
I'd enjoy casual PVP, especially no-stakes PVP integrated into dungeon content - like say an arena that split up your party, and sent confetti down on whichever pair finished their fight first, and then let them join the other one. (A "Divide and Conquer" floor? Though it'd probably be mixed in with a more usual arena / dungeon content.) Or a "Gatecrashers" floor that let you match yourself up against another party that was also visiting that floor, competing to clear it faster and possibly being matched up against them in an arena.

Basically, I can't imagine myself going out of my way to put a PVP group together, but I think it'd be fun and social if a dash of PVP showed up in our PVE from time to time, without punishing anyone if they end up being bad at it. (So a PVP floor against another party would need to act as a normal floor if you didn't opt for PVP, though you might get increased rewards if you opted to play competitively, regardless of whether you win or lose.)

- What is your favorite competitive video game?
My favorite competitive video game is probably the Smash Brothers series. I love me some platform fighting games.

I'd love a Defense of the Ancients style game mode.

Nofence to anyone who posted about having sports or mini games etc. but i dont think that mini games, sports etc. would be best for PvP for THIS game. Maybe some other game but i myself think that OOO should stick with having weapons and fighting than that stuff. Maybe a good twist on lockdown or something like that.

You just necro'd a thread from a year ago. All this content has already been implemented. DON'T COMMENT OR GIVE FEEDBACK ON A 'WHATS IN DEVELOPMENT' FROM A YEAR AGO, You are sincerely stupid

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Yes I would like pvp....A LOT!

What does Mario Party and Counter Strike have to do with anything?