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Moonstone pet will be Owl, what will Valestone pet be?

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Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:03
Khamsin's picture
Khamsin

A bat maybe? Some sort of butterfly? All of the sprites are flying creatures, but I don't know what a flying nature-themed pet would look like. My first thought was "snipe", but that's too close to owl.

Maybe some sort of flying plant? There aren't really any plant creatures in the game (since lumber are actually constructs).

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:21
#1
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle

will be Owl? What makes you so certain?

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:24
#2
Khamsin's picture
Khamsin
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Because Moonstones correlate with Owlites.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:39
#3
Thunder-The-Bright's picture
Thunder-The-Bright

problem: seraph already covers owlites cause he was found in a library. also morlin says it has magic powers if I recollect correctly.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:47
#4
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle

Moonstone correlates with a lot of things.

Not saying that a Moonstone sprite won't be an owl. But to assume that it must be an owl is kind of naive when compared to the identically viable Gremlins and Construct sprites.

A Valestone sprite could very well be a beast. But any flying beast will probably resemble the Drakon too much. Something furry like a Dust Bunny-like creature might work. Unless it is an actual sprite, like, a fairy type thing >.< which I hope not. That would be really weird.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:47
#5
Khamsin's picture
Khamsin
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Seraphynx is the avatar of purity. Owl-pet is the avatar of knowledge. Not exactly the same thing. Holy Magic =/= Elemental Magic, even if Holy damage is typed as elemental damage.

"Not saying that a Moonstone sprite won't be an owl. But to assume that it must be an owl is kind of naive when compared to the identically viable Gremlins and Construct sprites."

I don't see a gremlin pet happening, and construct doesn't really fit with the theme of knowledge, history, and magic, which is what moonstone is aligned with.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:54
#6
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle

I don't see a gremlin pet happening
Gremlin [adjective] Sprite ≠ Sprite that is a Gremlin. It could be a sprite that has been tinkered on and upgraded by Gremlins.

doesn't really fit with the theme of knowledge, history, and magic, which is what moonstone is aligned with.

Point me to where Moonstone is said to be "aligned with the theme of" history and magic.
The mineral descriptions are very vague. You're attaching your own perceptions to them and stating that as fact.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:06
#7
Khamsin's picture
Khamsin
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Origins = history.

However, I was mistaken about magic, I thought blue shards were used in the grey feather line, not light shards.

After some consideration, perhaps I'm willing to accept the line of logic that it could be a construct pet. Either way, I'm almost certain it will be shock-themed.

You know what, the more I think about it, the more I think you may be right about construct. Having a construct pet opposite an organic nature pet would make the contrast between them more interesting.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:14
#8
Trats-Romra's picture
Trats-Romra
My thoughts

Small pieces of Moonstone called Blue Shards are used in crafting.
The Blue Shards are used to craft to Cobalt and Defender armors. So, the Moonstone Pet will be associated with these armors.
And Owl are more associated with Luminite, because the Light Shards are used to make the Magic Sets.

Basically, I think we can associate the pets to armors that use the same mineral, even indirectly.
EDIT: Oh! You already noticed it.

About the Valestone,
What about a Lumberpecker?

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:11
#9
Traevelliath's picture
Traevelliath

I can haz robots?

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:13
#10
Khamsin's picture
Khamsin
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So if the Moonstone pet is a construct, that frees up the avian type, and I guess the Valestone pet could be a bird-type?

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:19
#11
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle

Origins = history.

Okay I see what you did there. I was thinking along the lines of Data/Memory = Knowledge when it comes to construct, and the Gremlins know more about Cradle than anyone else. The Moonstone description says a very vague "Knowledge of all worlds", which could refer just to all the worlds eaten by Cradle. (Speculation, assuming that Moonstone doesn't show up anywhere else. If it contained knowledge of "every world in the universe" wouldn't it be less ambiguous to say "Knowledge and Origins of the Universe"? Or wouldn't that carry the same impact that the stone contains knowledge on a smaller scale rather than a megascopic one?)

Anyway, I'm getting carried away. This definitely doesn't discount Owlites from being related, seeing as they've had involvement in at least two of the other races that we know of. But it does bring Gremlins, or even the Precursors into the picture.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:23
#12
Trats-Romra's picture
Trats-Romra

Ninjed twice in the same thread.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 15:04
#13
Merethif's picture
Merethif
Valestone

Valestone sprite could be also related to Ice/Frost/Snow - all recipes for Freeze related items (either that cause Freeze or has Freeze resistance) use Green Shards.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 15:20
#14
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Alegtbot
Wait wait....

Did the GM's leak more info or are these all assumptions about the minerals?

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 15:38
#15
Traevelliath's picture
Traevelliath

These are all assumptions that someone has decided are fact because I'm right

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 15:45
#16
Khamsin's picture
Khamsin
Merethif

"Valestone sprite could be also related to Ice/Frost/Snow - all recipes for Freeze related items (either that cause Freeze or has Freeze resistance) use Green Shards."

I'm doubtful about this to be honest. I could be wrong but I'm not really feeling it.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:36
#17
Skyguarder's picture
Skyguarder

Since Valestone is green, it reminds me of the nature and the wild.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:34
#18
Khamsin's picture
Khamsin
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"Since Valestone is green, it reminds me of nature and the wild."

Not to mention it says it contains the essence of life and it is aligned with beasts/beast gear.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:41
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Whimsicality
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Battlesprites adapted to their environment they were found in. Drakon is a beast, to fend off the heat and other beasts. Seraphynx is a holy creature, fending off the undead and darkness. Maskeraith is a dark ghost, to fight off the jellies and gremlins.

What would be this Moonsprite's deal be?

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:49
#20
Waffleconecake's picture
Waffleconecake
ples just for meh

Valestone should be a greaver and only I should be able to use it because I am the greaver master.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:10
#21
Khamsin's picture
Khamsin
@Wafflecone

It's name will be Vee right?

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 20:26
#22
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle
@Whimsicality

Battlesprites adapted to their environment they were found in. Drakon is a beast, to fend off the heat and other beasts. Seraphynx is a holy creature, fending off the undead and darkness. Maskeraith is a dark ghost, to fight off the jellies and gremlins

You're saying this depending on the damage they deal. Maskeraith can deal shadow, Seraphynx can deal elemental. But Drakon can't deal piercing, so how does that line up with your "Drakon is a beast, to fend off other beasts" statement?

What I think is that Drakon is a Drake-monster which is more of an "Ascended Beast" or advanced beast that doesn't quite fit into the beast family, because it is superior. Drakes could likely have elemental breath attacks (which the Drakon reflects) and piercing claw attacks (which the Drakon does not because it is only the mouth of a Drake)
Drake armour has a bonus to beasts because it preys on other beasts. Does this mean it has a bonus against itself? Perhaps. But to confine a Drake monster purely to the restrictions of the beast family would be silly.

Now that I've said that, it seems that the Sprites match up more with certain armours (the shards and stats) Drakon is sort of Drake/Salamander, Seraphynx is Valkyrie and Maskeraith is Skelly/Armor of the Fallen.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 20:54
#23
Thunderskull's picture
Thunderskull
Valestones!

I'd rather have my valestone consuming monstrosity be a floating monkey shaman battle sprite. :P

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 21:27
#24
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Wolfe-Knight
Hmm

I was hoping moonstone would support a normal only sprite, the E-Class. Normal and shock recipes both host blue shards and normal and shock would both fit with a E-Class (thats how I see it anyways). While a E-Class is a non-combatant it might prove to be a great support (free remedy for specific statuses, more perks, etc..).

For Valestone I was hoping for a bird type beast. Imagine a hawk like creature dashing towards and clawing and aggroing mobs (rocket puppies be gone!). lets face it, Valestone stands for beast and the only flying beast is a snipe. While they are cute I dont imagine they will be useful in combat or as a support.

While I would love Moonstone to be a owlite, I think what is gone should stay gone. I do not follow the lore but I figure adding them as sprite might mess a few things up.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 03:13
#25
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Inferno-Forum
BENDROWNED

If most of you paid attention during the mission briefing (aka description), you'd know that Maskeraith was located in an (abandoned?) gremlin lab. So technically the Maskeraith has something to do with gremlins. Seeing how it is shadowy and all, I suspect the Devilites. They're allied with Gremlins.
The poison originates from the toxigels in the facility.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 06:37
#26
Merethif's picture
Merethif
Speculations continues

Sprites are also mostly related to statuses, not only monster families: Maskeraith is poison related (Dark Matter is used to create poison stratum), Dragon is Fire related (Crimsonite is used to create Fire Stratum). That's why I think that having Moonstone sprite shock themed and Valestone sprite freeze themed is very probable.

Valestone is used in four strata recipes: Beast, Slime, Freeze and Poison. Since Poison theme is taken by Maskeraith and Beast theme is taken by Drakon, I suppose Valestone eater would be Slime/Freeze themed. Maybe some kind of floating, frosty jellyfish or fuzzy, penguin-like snipe that creates blizzards with its whirling wings. I don't know but so far we don't have crowd control sprite, so there's a niche.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 13:14
#27
Grittle's picture
Grittle
Dont forget that Valestone

Dont forget that Valestone also powers up Jellies

Because I swear, I will ___________ anybody that doesn't want a jelly sprite

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 13:21
#28
Zerokken's picture
Zerokken
MANLY SPRITE DISCUSSION

I had a thought of having a (low) chance of finding a Slime/Freeze Sprite in the room that uses the fourth key in the second depth of the Royal Jelly Palace.

There would be a slightly snowy and frozen bit added to the left part of the room.

Also, you wouldn't be able to get more than one. It's also an instanced prize that doesn't dissapear.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 03:00
#29
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle
@Grittle

I'd let you ___________ me :D
Slime ___________ is the best ___________ :D

Monster Lord? What are you talking about? I don't know a Monster Lord, what's that?

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