What are you talking about of course LD is all about damage.
The real activity with jempire and minion of jempire
A large percentage of the matches you ever win are against our weaker teams, yet you guys go bragging all over forums about how you beat us with a ratio of 3v1, yet you never point out that most of the matches you play are against our weaker teams? You post videos, screenshots and you mock us, while we never mock you, one screenshot and its like we're the bad guys making fun of you. Also l don't get why making a new guild means all your losses from months ago suddenly reset to zero. You guys could double your amount of wins and it still wouldn't equal to the amount of combined losses your players have had against us. New guild name, same people, so l don't see why your losses reset to zero, Darkcub's made countless guilds with the sole purpose of taking down The Jempire, what happen to all his losses? Or the losses from Aeons? You guys say you play for fun, but you seem to care about what we do more then hosting your own Lockdown events for fun. You guys must be the only guild that play with the purpose of having fun yet do more of mocking a guild then you do have fun, you guys have specifically stated you don't play for points, yet you cause an awful ruckus about how we get points. You accuse us of boosting, when all you guys do is replay over and over when we have a weaker team out that you can easily defeat. We get a stacked team up, more often then not, you guys don't requeue so how is it that you aren't boosting off us, you only play when you know you can win, and you don't play when you know you can't.
^Holy text block of rage!
@Fay Since i know you from an alt (sorry about your lag, must be tough in australia :/ ), I know you are a mature person. My recommendation is to ignore the juvenile people that squirm from the depths of the LD garbage can, since they aren't worth consideration.
Good day
Please, l pride myself on my english<3 Rezzler needs to tell me his mainD=
@ATbegone (or whatever your real account is)
Sounds like you have mental issues, so I'll be nice and ignore you.
just keep in mind that I'm probably the only player that can use brandish without AT and ASI (Unless my voltedge with asi low is too p2w for you)
@fayeth
Time to decipher this large chunk of text.
Keep in mind i'm not insulting you, nor jempire, nor defending 21. I'm just responding to the way you're pointing fingers at me and (some of) my guildmates.
"A large percentage of the matches you ever win are against our weaker teams"
Same goes for you.
"yet you guys go bragging all over forums about how you beat us with a ratio of 3v1, yet you never point out that most of the matches you play are against our weaker teams?"
Same goes for you.
"You post videos, screenshots and you mock us, while we never mock you, one screenshot and its like we're the bad guys making fun of you."
"We never mock you."
took me a minute to realise you're not being sarcastic.
1. Ruby was pming grimranger during the game about how 21 sucks
2. Jem forums + darkcub. Enough said
3. I don't post videos nor screenshots. I have many screenshots of jemp getting less than 100 points, yet i dont post any of them.
"Also l don't get why making a new guild means all your losses from months ago suddenly reset to zero. You guys could double your amount of wins and it still wouldn't equal to the amount of combined losses your players have had against us. New guild name, same people, so l don't see why your losses reset to zero, Darkcub's made countless guilds with the sole purpose of taking down The Jempire, what happen to all his losses? Or the losses from Aeons?"
So, since i once played for a bad guild and lost games, they should count towards a new guild that has better players? #logic
Also, darkcub's guild fetish doesnt have anything to do with me. I joined 21 for the sole purpose of doing GvG for fun, and to be with Jumazo.
"You guys say you play for fun, but you seem to care about what we do more then hosting your own Lockdown events for fun. You guys must be the only guild that play with the purpose of having fun yet do more of mocking a guild then you do have fun, you guys have specifically stated you don't play for points, yet you cause an awful ruckus about how we get points."
1. We had a limit of 21 people. Lockdown events require at least 12 people. However, we have done many infinite games against ourselves for the sole purpose of doing 1v1's.
2. I don't trash talk. If you see me insulting somebody, it's sarcastic, usually paired with many "LOL"s.
3. We don't play for points. we had a limit of 21 people, how could we possibly outplay (and outfarm) a guild with more than 5x our players? The reason I hate jempire as a guild is because they are all like "Oh we don't farm, Minions of Jem are only for fun!" Meanwhile, whenever somebody threatens your #1 spot on the leaderboards, suddenly MoJ goes on a 12 hour LD streak in the middle of the night.
"You accuse us of boosting, when all you guys do is replay over and over when we have a weaker team out that you can easily defeat."
1. It's not accusing if it's true. Everybody knows it, i dont know why you guys keep denying it. It's only making yourselves look bad.
2. Is it our fault you replay? no. Is it our fault we're stronger than the "weaker team"s? no. Is it our fault we want to play again? no.
"We get a stacked team up, more often then not, you guys don't requeue so how is it that you aren't boosting off us, you only play when you know you can win, and you don't play when you know you can't."
1. You guys always drop off within 1-2 games unless you have a stacked team. #hypocrisy
2. We have a small amount of players. Perhaps your polaris spam drives away 1-2 and we dont have enough for gvg.
You can't do a direct comparison, especially not to such a small guild.
TL;DR The amount of hypocrisy is TOO DAMN HIGH.
"Jawny", you're trying too hard.
You lost that game, a loss is a loss. I couldn't give a damn about what your "record" is against us because I know, that YOU know Twenty One could never beat our best team.
That's all there is to it. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. I would ask you to get off your delusional high horse, but that would be hypocritical considering I'm always riding mine. If you and your guild want to be respected, act like you deserve it. I'm tired of all this useless fighting that makes the lockdown community look terrible. Which it is. Why.
And people wonder why I don't play this game anymore.
Get over it. This is only Spiral Knights.
Seeing this forum topic just made me chuckle when I first looked at it, then I realized, 21 is really that immature? You really have to waste space on the forums to rant about Jempire? It's such a childish thing, and I'm wondering, are you guys whining, complaining, or just trying to seem like 21 is the better guild here?
Wellp, this war after looking at it, made me feel like I guess I should have a word in it.
And might I add, if you guys have ever realized, Jempire doesn't accept people for their LD based skills, they accept those who have a good heart.
So lets dissect what Jawney said and lets see what I have to say for his statements.
So the first thing is that Jemps vs your weaker teams. Wait a second... wasn't 21 ment to be the guild of the top 21 players in LD? So, I'm getting mixed messages here.
So lets see what's next... Ohhh this is nice, saying that Jemps brag when they beat 21's "weaker team" well, show me in the forums here the few topics that Jemps brag, then look at 21, it's a pretty BIG difference.
Also, many highly doubt that Ruby, who is a very respective person would say that to grim. The Jem forums? I'm pretty sure it's called the JEM Forums for it to be a place to discuss things btwn members of Jempire and not shown to the public like 21 does.
So what's next... *Skims through a paragraph of bull* Yadah yadah yadah.... lets see...
Trash talking smh, always happens in LD, a lot in Gvg,mostly from 21's side. Sadly no screen shots on me.
Saying that you guys have only 21 people how can you "out farm" us, is it our fault you guys chose 21? You could have chosen 137, but apperently 21.
And about we, le Jemps farming minions idea- http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5537/10473424363_e92f55f94f.jpg
Lets see what else... Blah blah blah, again brings up the minion idea (Try being original in hate plez)
We drop after 1-2 games, it's because the people that play, play for the fun of it or if they want to be better, and if they are versing a very rude team, why have them continue to verse em?
Oh and like I haven't seen this before, something about our polaris spam.... yeah.... ironic since many of us don't really spam polaris anymore yet you guys do...
And again size of the guild - not our problem.
So go rant more about Jempire, you won't look like the bigger man.
Remember to use that burn heal.
When I play vs Minions, we either do 1v1's, or we do a non-cap fight only infinite, or Minions win (like they did to you).
When I play vs Minions, I just get confused because I don't know who is who in the alt guild @_@
@Bacon
I'm Redblades if you didn't know.
"You lost that game, a loss is a loss. I couldn't give a damn about what your "record" is against us because I know, that YOU know Twenty One could never beat our best team.
That's all there is to it. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. I would ask you to get off your delusional high horse, but that would be hypocritical considering I'm always riding mine. If you and your guild want to be respected, act like you deserve it. I'm tired of all this useless fighting that makes the lockdown community look terrible. Which it is. Why.
And people wonder why I don't play this game anymore.
Get over it. This is only Spiral Knights."
It is a loss, and I acknowledge it's a loss. However, you kids are feeling all proud because you got a stacked team to go on their alts and won. Like, what's the point of that? To show that MOJ has alts? To show that MOJ can be a good guild? Well obviously, cause half of jemp is in it.
Also, I don't care who wins nor who loses. It's only Darkcub and Mereke who count that bs. Funny though, your current ACTIVE best team cannot actually beat Twenty One's best team. (ohoho, getting personal here). Sure, your old team could obviously beat Twenty One, but that's something of the past, and special calls have to be made, special strings have to be pulled to get that team back online and de-rustified.
Also, the comment about respect. Do you think I care about my reputation and the amount of respect I get in this game? Again, I'm speaking for myself when I say I don't trash talk, unless it's a joke.
The closest I come to trash talking in LD is:
"This is boring" (only in team chat) or "Lsky smd pls <3"
that's it. If you didn't read, I'll repeat myself. This is speaking for MYSELF and MYSELF ONLY. I don't give half a crap what the rest of this guild does, as having trash talking spanish people already guarantees a bad rep.
@Siglez
Cool story bro..
1. I didn't make this topic, as you can clearly see (unless you're mentally handicapped, which seems like a possibility)
2. I highly doubt that you have a nose, but does that change the fact that you (probably) have one? Nope, nope nope. I don't care what you believe and what you doubt.
3. Jem forums is not exclusive to only jem members. How do I know? I have an account on it, so does canozo, so does sarfalicious, and the list goes on.
4. I never said the guild size is your problem, I'm saying how it's downright stupid to directly compare guilds. You're proving your stupidity right here.
5. "many of us don't really spam polaris anymore"
are you being sarcastic, or just telling a terrible and unbelievable lie?
6. I'm not ranting about jempire. Please re-read my post above. Or I can Qwote (hah see what i did there) it for you, since you seem delusional:
"Keep in mind i'm not insulting you, nor jempire, nor defending 21. I'm just responding to the way you're pointing fingers at me and (some of) my guildmates."
This post is full of insults you showed me -3 respect (skims through a paragraph of bull, blah blah blah, need i quote more?), acted like a nutbag, and insulted me for no apparent reason.
tl;dr You haven't countered anything I said, and therefore I give exactly 0 craps. Have fun with that 0 crap.
Seems to me there's a few more than 21 people in the guild if that list is accurate. (And if it's not, you really should update it)
@troupe-forums
Darkcub went on an inviting spree, which is making me want to leave.
Also, notice the past tense.
@Contri and Dragonuity : 你们不要跟我showoff你们的华文 !!(As you can tell, this is not translated :P)
Lulz at what troupe said, and you gave enough craps to reply to what I said, good enough for me, and it's hard to give respect to a person that's in a very respectless guild <3
"However, you kids are feeling all proud because you got a stacked team to go on their alts and won"
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5474/10472886684_1cc0fb44a3.jpg
1k damage. 6k damage. LOOK AT THAT JEMPIRE STACK.
Please point out what makes this team stacked. Where's Snarkey? Where's Ruby? Where's Icy? I had just happened to log on to train the new members FOR ONE GAME when you guys intercepted. I had no idea you were trying to fight us. There's the kicker. We had NO IDEA you were trying to intercept. In reality, we surprised you. With me. I was also surprised.
The prize at the bottom of my lockdown Cracker Jack is I got a free win. And a whole lot of entertainment. And I didn't even have to eat the crappy popcorn.
TL;DR? If you think that team is stacked, you've got bigger problems.
Where is Ezho ? Where is Jumazo ? Where is Rawrwarwara ? where is Suddenfwift ? Where is Redblades ? whre is Timbalero ? where is Sshadoow ? where is beefman ? Where is ZKPC ?
I have in my pc 75 pics vs 22 , i just want wait for 100 . and make a new video .
@bacon-strip
How about rewording. A superior team. Is that better for you? I even admitted that the MoJ team was superior to the 21 team we had.
Where's Ruby?
Where's Snarkey?
Where's Icy?
Where's Bacon?
Me me me !!!!
Noob planet??
Eating AT berries?
Farming sparks to rev FTW?
Hanging from a lame tree?
Twerking?
Noobs+noobs+noobs+noobs = noobs x4.
at bacon
"Twenty One could never beat our best team."
By saying this is a good way to start gettint each others respect?
By the ways for your information
the other day when the ce rev was dessapear we play some of your jemp A team in same time as ( reby , sooth , illu , snark , lsky , huntr ) we beat them 3 game in an row and they stop Q so dont say we( CANT ) beat your jemp A team.
Now. because ce rev re-apear GVG is all about the ce revive like we see those 3 match dat we loss. we play vs you jemp have an average of around 30x ce rev per match ?
Winning by 150 pts. vs an team who dont ce rev please dont be glad of this lol.
Whenever i check this thread, the 1st post always makes me LOL.
Drdrj so good!
Until you get your officers to stop pestering the community like they've done, clean up your wiki page, etc., I won't be able to respect 21 as a guild. It's sad because there are good people in your guild and a select few in your guild just keeps pouring gasoline into this flamewar and bring the reputation of many down.
@Ezho
I must thank you for mentioning me as an A-team player. I play all the way from Europe and most of times on a crappy laptop. I can't really do anything near what I usually do then. I end up with almost least damage many times. And if that 3 win streak is true it must have been the only 3 games i've ever played with Ruby. Playing with Ruby comes up once a year if lucky.
Not my fault im too old to know how an wiki page work im not the one who make it and sadly you just learn me dat we have one XD. And its hard to control my mexicanos in my guild. I I I I just cant not handle it <(X_X)>
How can one learn how to learn English if that page is in English?
crappy laptop and crappy connection don't matter.
I had a video of me back in rigorous with 2 bars and around 10fps while recording, still carried.
too bad i threw that laptop in the trash. i might dig it up to get the video back later.
Ok, want me to try and record with this laptop in LD and let's see how bad it really is?
Hahaha! I don't know about you guys but I really like reading this thread.
Best 25 minutes I've had in SK forums !
Methinks Chaos Knight is manipulating this thread.
I'm gonna get fat from all this popcorn eating. XDD
But seriously...Why do humans need to fight over such pathetic stuff? I just don't know anymore...There's much more serious issues we need to be attending to as a human race and all you guys wanna do is fight over a little side game in a little free to play game? I'm sorry but it's just P A T E T I C.
Did I ever tell you about my cat? I got him on my 14th birthday. He's a black housecat with oh so stare-y eyes. I often find myself in staring competitions with him. He enjoys running around the apartment at the speed of light during the morning and late evening because he's such a troll. He's the cutest cat I've ever had! Probably because he's the only cat I've had...
P A T E T I C is a quote from Darkcub. I know how to spell it correctly... =w=
@siglez
"it's hard to give respect to a person that's in a very respectless guild"
So what you're saying is, you disrespect me for no other reason than the guild i choose to be in.
Oh please, put more comments that prove you are a kind-hearted and intelligent human being.
@krakob
my female dog likes jumping on me. Her name is Rebel-Ex
@theirillusion
simply responding to your comment about lag. perhaps my little video reference was a off, my apologies.
All I can say is it was fun to GvG earlier today, even though we lost. Thanks Rebel and Red for bantering back and forth with me, had a blast.
Just ignore what I've typed in the past couple of posts, I was high on skittles at those moments ^~^, so sorry to most of those who I've disrespected.
@Rete, Patrick will rise again soon, maybe...
I could make several good arguments here, but I'd rather not waste the time. I'll just list a few things:
Topic of MoJ win vs 21
We came into the game overconfident. We had absolutely no plan, and we underestimated you.
Yet, in the last two minutes we outscored you 400-200. Because we actually got organized.
Yet, you didn't play again, most likely because (as me and a friend were talking about), you saw how we organized at the end and decided not to risk your great victory.
Also, during the game (I forget exact Qwote from Ruby (see wat i did thur), Ruby was insulting 21, as Red said. 'you better not lose', etc.
Some worse stuff but I forgot most of it and I don't take screenshots because I try not to be a jerk unless provoked (like now), so I don't take screenshots as proof of insult (unlike some of you, apparently).
I asked two questions to Ruby after the game, both which he failed to answer (after his insults):
If Jemp is so much better then 21, why'd Ezho leave?
If 21 sucks, why were you guys so amazed/surprised/happy when you won (about 25 jemps after the game said 'LOL', etc)?
@Ban-Me
um..does this prove that they won because they spent a lot of energy on rez? :3
We probably would've won, but I'd still rather make a jemp team (an alt jemp team at that) waste 500 E + in one game LOL.
Also, I guarantee that we are the more skilled team here. We'll take you guys on anytime we have those players on.
Anyway, I tend to side with Red here. I joined 21 to be with a few close friends and for GvG. If a 21 player says something, why should I be treated like I said it? I didn't plan on staying in 21 forever. I'm having fun, but it's no Aeons or Rigorous to me (staying til it's dead).
Anyway, as I said, we got outplayed in that game due to a few things. We had no strategy, we were overconfident (kind of like OU vs. Texas ;-;), you guys had several people that were rezzing a lot (though obviously you'll deny this).
Take away the first two, and you can see why MoJ didn't play again.
They knew they would lose.
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DRAMATIC ENDING!!!
Im the best player in Echo-of-ATwenty-One-Jempirates.
Meet me at north point of map where I slay all the AT CErev nubs with proto gun.]
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@pro geeveegee playa:
Echo of silence is only here to post popcorn.gifs
Minions of Jempire
Total Capture::31
Total Defend:12
Total Damage:76455
Twenty-One
Total Capture:32
Total Defend:8
Total Damage:84117
By looking at this data calculated from the screenshot that sooth took, we can see that:
1. Lockdown isn't all about damage because even though Twenty-One did more damage, in the end Minions of Jempire still won.
2. Bacon, Sooth and Noctis carried the jempire rookies to victory
3. The Minions of Jempire were more skilled than Twenty-One in this match.
4. Bacon is man