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Sat, 05/21/2011 - 02:38
junky585
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OMG, l keep trying to play cus congrats on a great game and im newb and it seems to take about 10 MINUTES to load......thats a long while, pls do something to speed it up!!

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 02:39
#1
Timewalker's picture
Timewalker
Buy a new PC

Buy a new PC

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 02:48
#2
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Gwenyvier
Usually I don't agree with

Usually I don't agree with people when the answer is "buy a new pc" but in this case I have to agree. The game takes anywhere from 20 seconds to a minute to load for me (excluding patches which take a little longer) and my PC is a good 5 years old. It could be that your PC doesn't meet the game specifications, that you're in a place that has trouble connecting to the servers *cough Australia cough*, or that you have dial up. If its the first or 3rd then its on you, if its the 2nd then c'est la vie.

~Gwen

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 02:54
#3
Raul
yah I got a pc that is SEVEN

yah I got a pc that is SEVEN years old, is running XP, and is on a gpu from at LEAST 2005. Buy a new pc.

Every 5 years you need to upgrade pc parts.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 03:00
#4
aeolianmode
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Well firstly you might just

Well firstly you might just want to check your connection before you go spending any money, running pretty good hardware and even I take a while to load sometimes when my connection chokes.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 08:42
#5
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Dogrock
A huge loading time is caused

A huge loading time is caused by a slow/busy hard drive. It is especially notable on low power laptop drives.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 08:59
#6
Gigafreak
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The game's programmed in

The game's programmed in Java, which is a norotious memory hog. (Presumably this was done so that it would be compatible for Mac and Linux users.)

I remember hearing it was originally intended to be playable right out of a browser but it seems to have grown too big for that...

As for speeding it up, the only ways are a better connection or better hardware.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 09:12
#7
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Dogrock
The game "hogs" no more

The game "hogs" no more memory than any other 3D game I play. Just because a program uses a lot of memory does not mean it's wasting it.

Over the course of the entire Preview Event the game never ran in browser. The web browser is more a tool to kickstart the initial download and installation tasks, For those liking a custom install path the stand alone app as been always available.

(Though there were three other Previews that I cannot comment on since I wasn't involved)

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 09:15
#8
Raul
Pfft if you are worried about

Pfft if you are worried about memory leaks use Cleanmem *ahem* ANYWAYS.

Nick said the whole company is founded on Java.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 09:24
#9
Gigafreak
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Other 3D games stop heating

Other 3D games stop heating up the laptop when minimized. This one doesn't. It keeps on using up all the memory even when it runs in the background.

I know this because we had issues with the RAM overheating in World of Warcraft-- downloaded a temperature sensor app to keep track of it and minimized the game periodically before the RAM hits 140 Farenheit. Less memory was used while minimized, and the heat had a chance to dissipate.

Spiral Knights, though, doesn't calm down when minimized. We get frequent overheating problems with this.

We also get overheat problems just using a stinking Java-based Oekaki (multi-user paint-chat).

Or Java-based 2D games, even simple ones like Breakout.

Or anything Java-based.

Java hogs RAM. It may be putting it to good use, but there's no denying that it uses a lot.

(Flash also overheats it quickly but that's not the point.)

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 09:31
#10
Raul
Aren't flash and java some of

Aren't flash and java some of the $@$%#iest things every made from a coding perspective?

Anyways see if having Cleanemem run every 15 min stop it from doing that. I haven't noticed any overheating and sometimes it sits for quite a while minimized to the tray.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 09:36
#11
Gigafreak
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I think I found it. It sounds

I think I found it. It sounds pretty effective. I'll give it a try when I get home. Thanks.

(And, yes, I do hear that Java and Flash are... difficult... from a programming perspective...)

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 09:43
#12
Raul
That's the one that calls the

That's the one that calls the natural Windows API to release memory right? Runs for like less then a second?

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 09:46
#13
pkninja
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specs, maybe?

junky585, why don't you post some specs about your computer (like manufacturer or model)? While the problem might be old hardware, it could also be that you have too many other things running in the background. You might (stress: MIGHT) also have something like malware running on your computer that could be eating up all of your resources.
This game is fairly lightweight as far as modern games go, so the problem is likely something on your end. If you like, I can link some good resources for cleaning up your computer a bit.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 09:48
#14
Gigafreak
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Don't know, this first I've

Don't know, this first I've heard of it. That's what it says on the download page. So it sounds like the right one.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 09:52
#15
Raul
Yah I'm pretty sure that is

Yah I'm pretty sure that is it, just set up as a task to run every 15 min or 10 min and you should be fine. Just be wary those security programs love to block things lol.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 12:05
#16
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Dogrock
I know this because we had

I know this because we had issues with the RAM overheating in World of Warcraft-- downloaded a temperature sensor app to keep track of it and minimized the game periodically before the RAM hits 140 Farenheit. Less memory was used while minimized, and the heat had a chance to dissipate.

Just saying, there is no RAM produced that has a temperature sensor on-chip. That reading you got is most likely from a motherboard sensor that is near the RAM slots. Also, RAM can handle temperatures of about 80 degrees Celsius before approaching the overheat zone.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 12:13
#17
harleybear20
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my game cilent

my game cilent wont even open up! i've had it for 2 weeks and it worked fine untill this morning!

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 12:25
#18
Gigafreak
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Well, yeah. The app probably

Well, yeah. The app probably just lets me see the motherboard's internal temperature readings so I can figure out how long I have until the next overheat. The 140 Farenheit (60 Celsius) mark is most likely where the laptop decides "Okay, any higher and we're risking damage!" It always goes into overheat mode right as the DIMM temperature reading reaches that magic number.

So everything slows to a crawl when the reading on the temperature sensor near the RAM hits 140 F. This has led to some confusing conversations on "I'm building up too much heat!" followed by "What's the problem, are your items already maxed on it? Can you go sit on a spikepit or something so I can revive you and get some?"

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 16:37
#19
culture
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This is the only game I've

This is the only game I've ever played on my laptop that consistently causes it to overheat. When starting up again, I see a BIOS message that the computer overheated and was hibernated to avoid further damage. When playing spiral knights, I prop up the front about 1/2" and the back by 2" which allows more airflow and avoids overheating. At first I tried just doing the back about 1" and that wasn't sufficient.

I feel sorry for developers stuck in Java, but there isn't a good alternative if you want to have one downloadable client work on Windows, Mac and Linux. The only good alternative is purely browser-based games. Maybe in another 10 years the standard browser will be at the point that a game like Spiral Knights can be based purely in the browser.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 20:07
#20
Raul
Huh? I really don't know

Huh? I really don't know what's with all these over heat issues. The highest cpu temp that mine has gotten to was 69C and that has been over the course of a week.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 20:36
#21
Gigafreak
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Laptops have... heat venting

Laptops have... heat venting issues. Differs between machines, of course. But if the DIMM hit 69C, my laptop would already have gone into "OH GOD STOP DROP AND ROLL" mode where everything goes at... 0.3 to 0.5 frames per second (i.e. one frame every 2-3 seconds, or often much worse). The components of a laptop are simply much closer together than in a desktop, meaning they can also heat each other up by proximity. This machine's about 5-7 years old-- good enough to run most things, but it's not exactly cutting edge technology.

By the way, CleanMem greatly reduced load times for the laptop in question. Didn't prevent overheating at all, but it's a pretty useful improvement. Thanks again!

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 20:44
#22
Raul
I have a seven year old

I have a seven year old laptop from Dell, a Inspiron E1705. Those are not my Dimm temperatures, those are the internal cpu core temperatures hence I"m using COREtemp to monitor them.

I am going to build my own desktop hopefully before the end of this year, and it's going to blow this sucka out of the water.

I'm glad to hear you like Cleanmem, yah I've been using it for a few months to a year now.

If anyone needs programs or software I'm the guy to ask, because chances are I know about it, have heard it, or use it.

Here is teh wishlist for that new desktop.
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=1...

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