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Change the Calibur line charge attacks.

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Sat, 10/12/2013 - 10:26
Writhes's picture
Writhes

Honestly, I don't usually care about the weapons people use but I swear every time someone uses a calibur charge attack I want to punch a baby.

If players use a calibur charge and knock mobs in every direction its on a blast bomb level of annoying. It ruins vortex, it smashes mobs into other players, and worst of all the damage just isn't worth the disruption it causes in a party...

When I am leader I dislike being the [bucket] that has to tell people that I don't want them charging their sword or having to quit a group (yes, its that bad) when I'm not leading.

Overall as long as the problem is solved some how I don't really care how this is fixed but these are the things I could imagine would fix this.

A) Knock back reduced to be less ridiculous.
B) Knock back removed and replaced with stun.
C) Knock back removed and charge damage increased.
D) Charge attack overhauled.

Like I said I don't care what the solution is but something should certainly be done here especially considering how many new players end up using this sword.

Sat, 10/12/2013 - 10:34
#1
Bitsbee's picture
Bitsbee
-1

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

Sat, 10/12/2013 - 11:22
#2
Thunder-The-Bright's picture
Thunder-The-Bright

just tell the guy to stop chargespamming cause it's bad for the party, and if he continues kick him/her. if you are not the leader, explian your position to the leader and probably get kicked.

Sat, 10/12/2013 - 11:50
#3
Dekuinanutshell's picture
Dekuinanutshell
@Thunder-The-Dark

Caliburs are agitating when someone decides to be a dick and charge spam a group ruining the stratagy for the rest of the team. In my opinion (which doesnt matter) caliburs are for solo missions and are ment to break open an area for the player to get some breathing space. Its not really a damage output its an escape tactic, and if someone decides to use this in a team they're no longer a team member.

It sucks that I have a CIV that is nerfed, awesome looking, and I cant use it because there is no benefit team wise. True its great for breaking hoards but thats what a team is for. Anyone using a brandish line rages, anyone using a heavy sword instead of hitting 3 to 5 enemies at a time will only hit 1 or 2 instead or probubly none because this calibur will fus ro da the enemy across the map before you could get a hit in and that in itself is more of a trolling technique then an actual strategy.

@OP +1 i agree that something needs to be done with the calibur line and please buff up the CIV already! its a good looking sword and deserves the damage of a regular Leviathan blade!

Sat, 10/12/2013 - 11:53
#4
Zeddy's picture
Zeddy

The calibur charge attack is a fine attack. Just because it can be abused doesn't make it bad.

Sat, 10/12/2013 - 12:12
#5
Arkate's picture
Arkate
?

There's plenty of things in the game like this. For example: Combuster Charge attacks on FSC, Blast Bombs, Gravitron vortex when somebody is about to charge attack, Polaris spam, etc.

Sun, 10/13/2013 - 00:01
#6
Autofire's picture
Autofire
You are experiencing a PICNIC ERROR!

Well, the one thing to remember, though, is that Calibur is the easiest to obtain weapon which is quite spammy. It's more likely that noobs will get a hold of it...

At the same time, -1

Sun, 10/13/2013 - 01:03
#7
Writhes's picture
Writhes

Indeed, it is a picnic error but not on my end. Id rather not have to explain why calibur line charges are annoying to party members over and over and over again because of some clueless new guy that got the weapon for free. This is why I choose to leave instead of explain this. Explaining this in detail can be exhausting do to. Sometimes people are just stupid and ignore good advice and I often feel the time I took to explain things gets wasted. It's just not worth the effort honestly.

The problem at heart is the game gives the recipes for the entire alchemy line of the sword (that has a very situational charge) to players that don't know any better.

Sun, 10/13/2013 - 12:39
#8
Dekuinanutshell's picture
Dekuinanutshell
@arkate

You're missing the point. The brandish line has a controlled source of attack making them move in one direction. The calibur line has a random spray effect which lowers the accuracy team wise making it harder to deal with if you care to have a team take out the entire group in one.

Precise movement > random movement

Sun, 10/13/2013 - 17:37
#9
Sweet-Hope's picture
Sweet-Hope
-1 i learned to play with

-1

i learned to play with calibur when i found this game thanks to steam in the summer of 2011, is a perfect sword for crowd control and giving stun only will make it worse. the same thing i could say with Brandishes Line, Pulsar Lines, people will spam them but also there people who know how to use such items. every item can be controlled including leviathan - Calibur line.

i always carry my leviathan with me even in Shadow Lair, the reason? Normal damage, when i used it? when i have a bunch of monster follow me and i make sure to use the charge after they used their attack or in the other hand when i know when i use my charge i dont going to send it near to an ally (direction which come the enemy, direction the enemy will fly), and the last and my favorite way to use it is when i have a cornered enemy, this weapon is perfect for gremlins too (and i love use it too agaisnt turrets!)

if something need a big changes are polaris and brandishes lines. calibur line already have a big penalty: lack of range damage, which if you dont know how to use it you will get a lot of damage in return, which is the thing why a lot of people hate that line. (also te lack of specialized damage)

So -1 to this idea

Sun, 10/13/2013 - 17:01
#10
Little-Juances's picture
Little-Juances

A weapon shouldn't change because people use it wrong.
OOO should gift coupons for free lobotomies instead.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 08:04
#11
Thunderbog's picture
Thunderbog
uh

Changing the Calibur line attacks causes a big paradox.

A big, paradox.

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 09:12
#12
Aotr's picture
Aotr
-1

it's your fault you're not using weapons that suit your party, if someone is using a weapon that does the opposite of yours obviously you either equip stuff that's helps the other players or solo another room, don't stay next to next them and be a dick

Wed, 10/16/2013 - 13:05
#13
Skillkid
WOW!

I use calibur. BTW if you replace with stun, you will have lots of stunned enemies surrounding you, and no way out.

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