Would you use it?
Keep in mind it would be pure elemental, so neutral damage would stay exactly the same as now, and effective damage would be exactly the same as flourish. No other changes other than removing the undead bonuns and just straight up making it a pure elemental weapon. Wouldn't it still be underpowered compared to Brandish?
I don't really see a big difference between how you'd use Acheron and Combuster except for Combuster doing extra damage, but alright.
Oh heck yes. Charge spamming FoV without the fire on yourself or the enemy but maybe a bit weaker and with a faster combo, where do I sign up?
YES
it would have undead high on it already, so why not?
I'd probably get one for fun. Compared to brandish, which offers power and crowd control, it would not be as useful. The charge would be a turret-destroyer, possibly a good utility weapon for FSC vs trojans/zombies/mask, but not really filling any other niches that the current Leviathan does.
Rocket Hammer already fills the spot of a pure elemental one-target eliminator.
Might be super nasty used with a vortex bomb.
Like Krakob, I would compare elemental CIV to Fang of Vog. I'm not sure how the damage numbers would shake out, though.
For PvE? Possibly. That charge attack would be fairly solid... basically, it'd be SIMILAR TO Fang of Vog without the awkwardly slow melee combo and without requiring you to have fire resistance. Yes, it's not the same since it'd do less damage and it'd have only three hits and not four, but that's why I said SIMILAR TO.
For PvP? Not a chance. What rapiers have going for them is their attack speed and hitbox... an elemental leviathan wouldn't have that. As for not being reduced by normal... your target would have to have have double max normal on their skolver to get an infinitesimally small damage increase (would have almost no effect in the outcome of a fight), and in all other scenarios you'd be hitting for notably less. Not to mention it has very little synergy with recon cloak.
Oh man....this is a sweet idea.
Comparin
It most likely (compaing single hits) would be about the sameish as FoV.
FoV still wins tho in the realm of charges. The CIV hits only once, twice if you are lucy. NEVER 3 times. FOV hits 4 times. And does more damage.
Despite self fire, FOV wins. Plus, it is split damage so it would be more effective against more monster families than elemental CIV.
Though honestly, I would see CIV more as a pure shadow dmg weapon with the sweet chainz and aura. Just needs a purple stripe and a curse symbol instead of a blue stripe and dot and its good to go.
"Despite self fire, FOV wins."
If self-fire wasn't an issue, I think more people would use it.
From long time ago I have an idea how to buff all normal damage weapons with natural damage bonus vs. something. I'll soon post it. Normal and elemental damage at the same time :B
But before this I'll post a little idea for little buff for CIV. It's "made for the singular purpose of hunting down and destroying the Undead" but there's still one friend from the Graveyards who's immortal
Those wouldn't be hard to calculate. Just have a look at Final Flourish's damage table here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkB_kx1fvrxadHBaUFhGVUdlNWh...
I'm wasn't entirely sure about the charge numbers, because SOMEONE (must've been some ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ) removed the text stating which items share that damage value but through the magic of comparing with the wiki, I was able to conclude that it would share damage with the first hits of the Flourish charge.
An elemental Leviathan? It could be themed something like a lightsaber, although with a fancier hilt and a more solidly defined blade. Give it the charged attack sounds of Static Edge as a normal attack sound. Although how effective it would be compared to a brandish would be questionable. Maybe remove the knockback entirely, in keeping with the lightsaber theme; that would also make the charged attack far more powerful.
No, I wouldn't get it.
You see, here's the issue: I already have a FoV and a Levi, which both work wonders in their own ways. Minus the fire, sure, that would be nice, but it's still not really something I would be interested in. However, if I was just starting, then I might get it.
What I would prefer would be a chance of instant killing any undead on the charge attack.
EDIT: I'm asking for too much. Okay, I would prefer stun chance.
An elemental Levi would have the exact damage numbers of Barbarous Thorn Blade, except no thorns. All the swings and the charge would all have the same damage.
Notice how their neutral numbers match.
Identical to a Levi but pure Ele?
If it gets similar buffing that the Flourish has then maybe, otherwise it would have a hard time competing with the Hammer.
"What do you mean by buffing? Speed and range?"
No question I would get a pure elemental rapier.
My Rocket hammer and DA are my usual zombie, mecha knight, and lumber eliminators, and I'll usually shoot Kats, retrogrades, and gun puppies. Scarabs are the only monster with an elemental weakness that I struggle with, but since I use normal damage gear for compounds I still wouldn't get much use out of an elemental CIV.
If the CIV 2.0 still had the undead bonus I can see it getting a little more use, but as is I feel it's still outclassed by the other elemental swords.
I love the charge attack style on it. I find it (and the Troika line) are flat out the most fun ones to use. Make me an elemental/shadow version, and i'll be a happy happy camper.
Does that mean I still count? I'd still use it if it was elemental.
i used civ as my main sword for a long time and i enjoyed it. but then i made the glacius and never went back, even though i love the look of the vanquisher. i don't think the sword needs to be made into something else or have it's aesthetic changed; it's spose to slay undead monsters. it already does lower damage than brandishes; rather than changing it's damage type or status, just increase the damage it does (and should) do against undead. make it the undead slayer it says that it is. i like autofire's idea of instakilling undead with a charge attack, even if it is a bit overpowered. i'd rather see that than something like a chance of stun. if i wanted that i'd just use an existing stun weapon.
Don't use CIV for damage.
Please
Just stop
Don't
It's not how you swords
Because Brandishes inflict statuses. Statuses which totally change the way you use the weapons.