Spiral Knights - Petition : This is for Aussie and Asian and other player who suffer latency

Petition : This is for Aussie and Asian and other player who suffer latency

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Thu, 10/17/2013 - 01:07

#51

Dragneel-Wiki

Xroadkilledx:

Getting high damage doesn't mean you're good at LD, you could be just comboing and nothing skillful is actually happening. And no, high latency makes the game unplayable, upsetting and depressing some times.

Complaining won't do us good, yeah. It may cause SEGA to actually think about making more servers for this poor game.

Thu, 10/17/2013 - 02:22

#52

Avixi

Can I sit down? The sky keeps swirling around.

#50 Xroadkilledx

Playing any game from Australia is like playing a game as someone with the slowest reflexes in the world, since you're adding 200-250ms latency to your reflexes (the average human being has 225ms).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_chronometry

In PvE this is negated somewhat as AI in this game tend to be easily predicted (i understand this will be rectified and AI will be much more crafty).

Australians have a lower skill ceiling because 450ms reaction time isn't good at all, and if they can compensate by learning to predict the future, what's stopping someone from the US with 50ms latency from doing the same and negating that advantage?

No matter how you look at it, 275ms reaction time is much better than 450ms made even worse since everything is server side.

Let's not forget that half the time pet abilities completely refuse to activate when your ping is too high. (Play EU server from Australia and you will see).

Thu, 10/17/2013 - 02:29

#53

Thunderbog

this

@Avixi

wow

so handicap

life is slow and steady

live so good

plz no change

(sorry not sorry)

Thu, 10/17/2013 - 02:36

#54

Avixi

Can I sit down? The sky keeps swirling around.

^ http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/616/362/182.jpg

Thu, 10/17/2013 - 02:47

#55

Thunderbog

wow

Thu, 10/17/2013 - 03:44

#56

Erlandr

@avixi

200-250 is a gross underestimation

a solid 300 and beyond is more of a better estimate considering the server is in the East of USA. Europe is even worse with 400+ even though the distance is significantly shorter but i think it has to do with a bunch of network switching delays and the data travelling over copper networks

that being said, I'd kill to have 200-250

and its not really that hard to get high damage in LD if you use swords striker with the generic loadouts as the striker boost moves too fast to track consistently not to mention several other things people use to get around latency such as camera angles, polaris, auto-target which is what low pingers do as well and it still works ok with high ping.

my advice to high pingers in LD making the complaints: quit SK lol srs unless you like a challenge.

fun fact: most people say 'lag' or 'range' when they are killed by swords or a fast bullet and this applies both high and low ping and anywhere in between. Even some pretty well known and 'skilled' players say it.

Thu, 10/17/2013 - 05:41

#57

Hellscreams-Forum

We are going to take yur connection

Xroadkilledx has 2 bars !! Get him !! @)____(@

Thu, 10/17/2013 - 12:30

#58

Headshet

ok...

I am Brazilian, I have much lag and never stop , i have asked several times to OOO create servers South Americans and what happened? NOTHING
I try to play and always have 2 bars in day and 1 to night , has many Brazilians who have the same

Thu, 10/17/2013 - 12:38

#59

Viorayne

Hm.

England Here.

Latency is variable. Some days its ok, some days is consistent 1-bar unplayable.
Cant do LD at all ...

But then I never do LD even if I am able, so meh.

I dont really need another server though, Its not like OOO are clueless to the connection of other places in the world,
Just they dont have the resources to handle another, while still developing the game's future.

Thu, 10/17/2013 - 13:12

#60

Rhagnarock

erhm...

I have a friend in new cadelonia and he plays Spiral Knights better than some of you...

If you live in Australia, you lived your whole life with delay, ranting on OOO forum won't make it go away "magically"

A petition gets to the trash can... or the grinder. Or gets acknowledge and exlpained to you, in detail, why it cannot happen.

Thu, 10/17/2013 - 16:40

#61

Avixi

Can I sit down? The sky keeps swirling around.

Because New Caledonia is clearly a lot further away to the US servers than AU is to the US.

There's a difference between playing the lag-safe way, and playing better, your friend is clearly playing the lag-safe way.

Thu, 10/17/2013 - 16:57

#62

Rykoshet

@Dragneel Well yes latency

@Dragneel

Well yes latency can make the game unplayable, but it doesn't mean you shouldn't try. And servers would take a lot of money to be kept running yearly.

@Fall-Hellscream

T_T

Thu, 10/17/2013 - 23:41

#63

Qwao

Xroadkilledx: I don't get why someone who hasn't even tasted the game on 700ms + wants to say anything here

Sorry but I'm very annoyed

Yes I do fine and all with my 300ms but at least I know WHAT it means to play the game having to react almost a full second before everything. The game isn't unplayable on 2bars. Not at all compared to this.

I don't have it all the time, of course, but someone who has that from their first day of playing probably won't stay for long. Which adds to Autofire's point.

Rhagnarok: Simply having my name up there means nothing. I have given up on this, but I still support it anyway because why not.

I'm not going to argue to most anyone else. Their points are mostly valid anyway.

Fri, 10/18/2013 - 03:47

#64

Rhagnarock

erhm...

New cadelonia is about as far to US server that AU is.. just look to your right... it's just there...

He plays LoL on US, SK on US, Minecraft on a Phillies server and he does just fine... with 2 bar (or 1) and 200-300 ms ping. I played LoL with 500 ms because I had network issue, even Aussie has better ping than that and it isn't unplayable... it's hard to adjust, but it's easy to do...

Plus your reaction time on LoL needs to be better than on SK... Lux/Ez ult on your face vs Trojan charging you.... not the same thing

Fri, 10/18/2013 - 05:29

#65

Hellscreams-Forum

@Rhagnarock : You got a point there :P

Fri, 10/18/2013 - 22:21

#66

Hellscreams-Forum

Ugh...

This thread will work !!!!!

Fri, 10/18/2013 - 22:57

#67

Petater

+0.999999999999999

.\____/.

Fri, 10/18/2013 - 23:03

#68

Neilpalad

Why cant you mention the Philippines

I have 1 bar but it doesnt lag and lockdown its still okay

PVE= Its kind really fine the 1 bar sign doesnt mean its lagging for me.

PVP= Mediocre

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 04:59

#69

Hellscreams-Forum

wrong thread

This is not a lag thread !! This is a latency thread lol...

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 05:10

#70

Carson-Slovak

Asian player here.

I've never had more than 1 bar in my SK life and the delay is unbearable most of the time. Especially when bullets from Howlitzers are flying all over the place. I have tried playing in the US last month and wow did it feel like a different game as I could dodge everything like a bullet hell shooter. Put my name in there if it helps.

Ign: Chicoy

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 05:46

#71

Hellscreams-Forum

Chicoy !! Hi Philiphinos

Chicoy !! Hi Philiphinos brother !! I'n from Malaysia :P

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 06:42

#72

Monkeybash

Only solution is for people

Only solution is for people to buy more energy so OOO can pay for more servers across the world.

Sat, 10/19/2013 - 07:47

#73

Hellscreams-Forum

@Monkeybash

Yea....about that.....they should make SK theme T-shirt, action figures, pillows and dolls....
They should ask sega for help and they can sell these things at comics shop or make deals with some company who owns convenient stores :P But till OOO done something that is a hit !! They can buy new servers in 3 weeks tops...

Sun, 10/20/2013 - 01:06

#74

Hellscreams-Forum

...

I need more names :P

Sun, 10/20/2013 - 01:38

#75

Blue-Flood

Put mine down! I fight for the American inside of all of us, regardless of where you're from.

Remember, then first word in USA is US!!!

Sun, 10/20/2013 - 02:02

#76

Midnight-Dj

read thread #39 plz, hellscream, coz I said I am signing up too.

Sun, 10/20/2013 - 03:15

#77

Hellscreams-Forum

@Midnight-Dj : 对不起。。大哥? 还是大姐 ?

Sun, 10/20/2013 - 04:07

#78

Hearthstone

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 06:06

#79

Hellscreams-Forum

Grrr....

I'm still not satisfied...

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 07:11

#80

Petater

Wat do

And even people next to the servers are lagging now. I'll get a half second lag sometimes with 4 solid bars.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 07:38

#81

Hellscreams-Forum

Hi Peter pan XD

Now you know half of my pain...

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 07:41

#82

Petater

Two can play at that game :3

Stahp, the name is a secret to everybody.

Mon, 10/21/2013 - 07:39

#83

Hellscreams-Forum

@Petarer

Edited for u :P

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 05:54

#84

Hellscreams-Forum

.....

Tue, 10/22/2013 - 07:59

#85

Snubear

We're not going to get

We're not going to get anything out of this, but since my ping is now just under 800ms and I spend more time on-forum than in-game, I may as well be whiny and bump the thread lul.

It's something you get used to in PvE because the monster AI is hopeless enough to compensate, but in PvP any half-decent player will wipe the floor with my face. And I'll see it happening on my screen a few seconds after.

Although a new server in the region would mean I wouldn't be playing in the same games as most of the people playing natively on the US/EU ones, which would be fairly self-defeating.

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Petition : This is for Aussie and Asian and other player who suffer latency