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What will motivate players into participating in Apocrea next time?

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Fri, 10/25/2013 - 06:28
Khamsin's picture
Khamsin

Many players already have all of their Apocrea loot, and there's nothing in this event that can be sold or traded to other players without an unbind. What will get players to participate in Apocrea the next time it comes around?

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 07:16
#1
Thunder-The-Bright's picture
Thunder-The-Bright
gods ain't gonna help you, son.

players that have all things, nothing if not the peculiar stage.
players that don't have all the things, they can get them.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 07:21
#2
Khamsin's picture
Khamsin
@Thunder

Dark Harvest used to operate in a similar fashion, but then 000 added prize boxes as a reward for excess pieces of candy. I feel like an outlet for excess apocrean sigils would similarly increase participation in the future.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 07:34
#3
Daili's picture
Daili
I think the only way for

I think the only way for people to participate again is if they made more obsidian weapons.
Obsidian shard bomb, Obsodian Blitz, Obsodian Heavy Sword, Obsidian Shield.
Those are just off the top of my head; I'm sure someone else has better suggestions for Obsidian weapons.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 07:40
#4
Lanieu's picture
Lanieu
+1 to...

Obsidian shield (even if just a costume. Still want a Shield Costume Slot.)

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 08:02
#5
Daili's picture
Daili
+1 to...

Shield costume slot.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 08:13
#6
Wolfe-Knight's picture
Wolfe-Knight
Wolfe-knight applauds

A crystal version of a Stone Tortoise would fit the obsidian sets I think.

On topic, I will keep playing the mission because I want to get one million tokens. I have always wanted to see what one million items looks like and this is the best way to do it as you get thousands at a time.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 08:23
#7
Vyktor-Kun's picture
Vyktor-Kun
i´d love to see them add an

i´d love to see them add an obsidian Battle Sprite next time

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 08:27
#8
Traevelliath's picture
Traevelliath

The biggest annoyance for me is that the only weapons craftable are 5* weapons. Tier 2 knights can run this and get... what? They aren't going to be able to afford the 5* equipment.

There needs to just be a use for the tokens, other than weapon crafting.

Also, don't make the "Some people already have all the weapons" argument. There were people with lvl 100 sprites within days of sprites being released. That doesn't mean you need to add another thousand levels and a few dozen more skill trees.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 08:32
#9
Daili's picture
Daili
@Vyktor-Kun

I could see that now...
I'm imagining a maskless Maskeraith with those 3 glowing dot-eyes, those wierd moving tentacle things coming from the hood.
Basically a mini floating Harvester with the body shape of a Maskeraith.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 08:56
#10
Sirius-Voltbreaker's picture
Sirius-Voltbreaker
Travelaith is right.

OOO doesn't seem to care much for its t2 players. Only the new t3 players.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 09:52
#11
Damienfoxy's picture
Damienfoxy
Sad to say, t2 and lower is

Sad to say, t2 and lower is basically the poor man's, middle class, trash class. T3 knights have proven themselves as hardworking, and are rewarded for said work. But lower tiers? What can they do? They can't fight our worst enemies, all they're good for is warning the real knights when the danger is coming

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 09:57
#12
Khamsin's picture
Khamsin
@Trav

Also, don't make the "Some people already have all the weapons" argument. There were people with lvl 100 sprites within days of sprites being released. That doesn't mean you need to add another thousand levels and a few dozen more skill trees.

But not all of the sprites right? And they probably poured massive amounts of money into it, whereas playing normally, you can have all of the apocrea stuff in 4-5 days if you don't suck, just doing the prestige mission once a day. Potentially even less if you're lucky (possible to get 4-5k tokens in one run).

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 10:19
#13
Traevelliath's picture
Traevelliath

There were people who got all the sprites maxed out the in a few days after they could get multiples.

And admittedly you don't need to run it a lot, but it's still enough to fill a week or so. I'd rather have extra time during an event than be strapped for time and scramble to finish them. For example, the Katastrophe, you *HAD* to grind candlestick keeps to get just one 5* Kat hat. Books of the Dark Ritual were reserved for either the rich, or the chosen of Fortuna, the goddess of luck. You were heavily pressured to grind, and even then due to the nature of luck, nothing was guaranteed.

With the Apocrea, you are free to not have to grind every day. I agree that there should be some other use for tokens other than weapons to give some incentive to continue to get more tokens, like being able to turn tokens into Obsidian Prize Boxes (probably at a steep cost though). However, just because it doesn't fill every hour of the day doesn't mean it needs more content. Just getting lvl 10 4* pieces of equipment already eats up a lot of resources.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 10:35
#14
Khamsin's picture
Khamsin
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Looks like 000 has spoken, and seen the event was way too quickly defeated by skilled players. Let's all be honest, an event like this shouldn't be completely defeated in 3-4 hours.

I'm glad they made the change, although it sadly does not effect me, since I've already got everything I need from it : /

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 10:40
#15
Krakob's picture
Krakob

The Obsidian Shield is a new accessory item from 1.1 update. It is made from the Cobalt Shield and Obsidian Skull, and combines their functionality as well as their defense. It will prevent you from being knocked back and stop you from being burnt by Hellstone and Meteorite.
I'd like this. Roughly. In SK.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 11:28
#16
Autofire's picture
Autofire
You are experiencing a PICNIC ERROR!

Ha ha ha ha...

Some people are complaining about T2 players getting left out, while for a long time T1 players were getting all the new content.

T2 players can get Punkin King, remember?

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 11:40
#17
Doctorspacebar's picture
Doctorspacebar
It's a Concrete Jungle out there

Previous players can run for the chance at D28 arenas, the opportunity to sell Apocrean mats to lazy players, and for the thrills of shooting Cthulhu's little helper in the face.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 11:46
#18
Khamsin's picture
Khamsin
@Doctorspacebar

the opportunity to sell Apocrean mats to lazy player

Bound.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 11:57
#19
No-Thanks
:3

the button arms the respawning boss the giant map

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 16:48
#20
Maharito's picture
Maharito
What will motivate players to

What will motivate players to do DHF next year?

The same thing that's motivating me to do it this year--the fact that I just wasn't around for it any previous year. :)

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 17:09
#21
Wavara's picture
Wavara

T2 players can get Punkin King, remember?

I got all the hats when the 1st event came out. All I can get now are those Hallow boxes and see what can I sell. Really motivating.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 17:58
#22
Khamsin's picture
Khamsin
@Maharito

What will motivate players to do DHF next year?

Prize boxes.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 18:07
#23
Alphacommando's picture
Alphacommando
Nothing motivates me to play

Nothing motivates me to play it even now.

The gear is nothing particularly interesting and I don't care if it looks cool.

The effort you need to go to, getting thousands of those Sigils, is just ridiculous when you end up getting a boring shadow weapon that inflicts poison.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 18:16
#24
Xxpapaya's picture
Xxpapaya
The papaya goes pa-p-crazy :P

@Alphacommando
HAVE you seen those smexy textures on the Obsidian Crusher? The pure awesomeness of the glowing signs on the glowing obsidian floating on the mysterious glowing energy is just too awesome for awesomeness to depict and make sense. The pure awesomeness about the fact that hands come out of the ground when you place the bomb is too awesome for awesomeness itself to explain in a decently coherent sentence so I'm gonna stop right now but just remember the awesomely awesome weapons are too awesome and they are just AWESOME.

^And that made a lot of sense :P

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 19:16
#25
Arelic's picture
Arelic
Random?

An Apocrea room of some sort as a randomized room.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 19:45
#26
Halandin's picture
Halandin
Reasons people who have

Reasons people who have already played this will come back:
It's hard. That's enough for the hordes of players who clamor for new challenges. Speed runs, runs in proto armor, runs in non-typical gear etc.
Lots of arenas--sure, fiend arenas are hard, but ^ people will play them, and anyone who has shadow def gear and lots of SoLs next time it comes around can get loads of crowns and mats from it in a short amount of time.

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