Can't find any videos on youtube but I imagine some people already have the weapons.
Not interested in the sword so I'm stuck between the bomb, gun, or neither. I want to see/know if the Vortex clone scatters enemies or not and also I'm curious of the damages on the carbine but I'm sure that will come eventually from Zeddy.
Really wish I could just use my freaking 5* versions to make these. <_<
Yes they were discussed already but the problem is that everyone is saying very different things. In that very thread you linked, Zeddy says of the weapons that "It's the same weapons but with less damage and poison" but the further admits to not even having it with "We'll see when someone actually makes one of these things though." in 91558 (however he may have made a weapon since then, I just have not seen proof of that).
Everyone is "saying that it is simply a Sentenza" doesn't mean squat to what it actually does. The wiki also implies the new Graviton Vortex redux spread enemies. When discussing bombs, Zeddy says of the new GV redux " Haven't had any problems of the bomb making enemies spread out and hindering that is mostly what EV had over GV" however I'm to understand he doesn't even have it.
I mean this very respectfully Bopp, but your post did not answer or help me or my questions. I don't need speculation but either researched evidence or visual evidence that seems to not exist.
Edit: Furthermore, assuming these weapons doing the same damage with poison on top (minus new Edge) would be contraindicated by past design of weapons such as nova/umbra driver vs other drivers and rigadoon vs final/barbarous. Maybe I'm wrong in thinking that OOO would know poison > gremlin med.
I'm sorry that I didn't help. My desire to help is sincere, although sometimes I get impatient.
What I'm saying is: There are already threads that are functionally identical to this thread. So, if those other threads don't have the answer you want, then this thread will probably not get the answer you want either. Probably no careful measurements have been done yet. For example, I haven't yet measured the sword and updated my sword guide.
But sure, keep pressing the point, and maybe we will get more reliable information, which would be good for everyone. Cheers.
I have the weapons at this point.
Obsidian Blade shares damage and behaviour with the elemental brandishes (and old Acheron.) Good chance of Strong poison.
Carbine shares damage and behaviour with Sentenza. Apparently, moderate poison holds equal worth to gremlin medium! I did not expect that in the slightest! Fair chance of Moderate poison. (On the charge. I suspect chance is only Slight for the regular shots.)
Obsidian Crusher shares damage and behaviour with Electron Vortex, which does less damage than Graviton Vortex. Good chance of Strong poison. Upon further testing, I cannot find any difference in the knockback compared to Graviton Vortex. Both bombs have a tendency to not spread enemies sometimes and explode them all over the place at other times. For both bombs, spreading the enemies around seems less likely the more enemies get caught in the vortex.
Bleh. Thank you very much though Zeddy. That shatters any interest I would have had in the Obsidian Blade or Crusher. Guess I will try to get the Carbine as it looks cool before the event ends although unlikely due to my work schedule...
And no worries, Bopp. I greatly respect the high levels of work you put into making this forum a better place. I know my topic is somewhat redundant but I was hoping to be more direct.
i have a video but i don't have patience to upload it xD
Obsidian sword looks and sounds amazing. I'd get it just for those reasons.
Obsidian crusher is probably going to gather a lot of dust, since I never really use vortex bombs.
These weapons have been discussed in many threads, for example here.
I don't have the bomb, but everyone is saying that it is simply a Graviton Vortex, but with poison.
I don't have the gun, but everyone is saying that it is simply a Sentenza, but with poison (and no gremlin bonus). So Sentenza's damage tables apply, but subsitute slime damage for gremlin damage (or look here and here, to see damage bonus effects).
The sword is old-Acheron (not new-Acheron), but with poison.