Spiral Knights - boost the loading time...

boost the loading time...

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Tue, 10/29/2013 - 19:50

Thunder-Man

Hi guys, just a question.. how you can boost the loading time??

i was trying to use the Buffalo RAMdisk but i'm very confuse... i need help

my pc specs

AMD E1-1200 Dual core (1.4ghz)
4096 RAM
AMD Radeon HD 7310

PD: i can run minecraft in medium-high

i follow the next step to try RAMdisk

Pre-requisites:

•you have at least 4 GB RAM and at least 1.25 GB of them is free;
•you run Windows XP, Vista or 7 (either 32 or 64 bits would work);
•a vanilla installation of SK (i.e. no customization);
•do this at your own risk.
1.download and install Buffalo RamDisk (pick "Install Software Anyways" option);
2.pick "Advanced option" and allocate 1248 MB for RAM Disk. Assign it a drive letter (I picked "R:");
3.reboot. Find SK directory in Windows Explorer. e.g. on Steam, it's usually in C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\Steamapps\Common\spiral knights. Then copy your SK directory to RAM drive. e.g. R: drive;
4.using Windows Explorer, rename your original spiral knights folder to a new name, like spiral knights.bak;
5.hit Windows Key and 'r' together, then type in cmd. It will pop up a window. Inside that window, type:
•cd C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\Steamapps\Common
•mklink /j "spiral knights" "r:\spiral knights"
replace first step with the parent directory of your SK installation as needed;

6.close window, start SK and enjoy the speed!
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just in the step 3,4,5,6 im stuck anyone can help me to boost the loading time?

Tue, 10/29/2013 - 20:43

No-Thanks

it wont boost the loading time if u copy stuff into ramdisk i tryed that before

what u could try is a better cpu, gpu and an ssd, however even then it might not load that fast, i didnt try it and wont claim that itll work unlike some other wannabe experts do

i used these for the linking at that time
http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=221452
http://schinagl.priv.at/nt/hardlinkshellext/hardlinkshellext.html

look at these sites for hardware comparisons
http://www.storagesearch.com/soliddata-art2-comparisons.pdf
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_list.php

i understand nothing of HDD and stuff, but im guessing ull want to decrease read time for whatever block size is being accessed the most when sk is on loading screen
i also know nothing about sk or java, but im guessing, depending on whether files get decompressed or not, ull want a better cpu too
what i do know, is that i failed to get myself a better performance with a crappy system despite ramdisk and despite dsl 50 000

nowadays u can get a cheap good system, 3ghz cpu are standard mostly just vary in amount of cores, gpu can be bought extra

anyway gl with ramdisk and feel free to share if u get any good results
i really dont mind the few seconds loading times anymore taking the minutes of gameplay time into consideration, but it would be just good to know

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 04:20

Shamanalah

my 2 cents

i understand nothing of HDD and stuff,

Then don't advice... HDD runs avrg on 7200 RPM which is pretty fine for most of what you do. Spiral Knights being a low-quality budget game (face it, no AAA games, and if you don't know what a AAA game is then you should do some research first)

Switching to a SSD is a good option but will not help you load faster because the Spiral Knights files are being split to your PC and the connection to OOO, you have the maps, mobs and everything else on your PC but your knight is stored on OOO server.

How to load faster:

Well first of all you need to know what is slowing you down... Slow internet connection?, 4 go of ram is plenty enough to play SK (granted you don't play LoL at the same time), your graph card that is slow to load animation (a good way to find this out is asking 7 of your friend to join the training hall and fire Polaris bullet along sprites ulti, goes for a good show and will demand from your graph card)

Allocating more ram to SK won't do much on a 4 go RAM... yes it's quite nice for Minecraft (and 3 go allocation will be enough to see a superflat world of TNT blow up w/o frame drop) but SK isn't demanding in RAM, with the animation they poured in with the last year (dodge, shield bash, sprite, 3d animation for items), it may be your graph card that can't keep up...

At any point, there is no magic software to make your PC faster, just have the knowledge and understanding of basic informatic and you will be fine

Edit: and before some Minecraft fan gets in: Minecraft is CPU/GPU and RAM demanding. Why? Because your PC spends his whole Minecraft day loading chunks, deloading chunks and reloading more chunks, it's calculating like crazy while the graph card took a cruise to the bahamas and is doing virtually nothing

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 05:04

Scirio

If you're willing to spend money.

Get a SSD, problem solved.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 05:43

No-Thanks

ram

everything gets loaded into the ram and i dont know how much is fetched from network, but everything is loaded from hdd i think
you can do your own research googling or use process explorer/process monitor to see, what is being accessed
you can also just compare user experiences with very slow and very fast internet connection and see if they report vastly different loading screen times

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loading_screen

"Nowadays, most games are loaded from optical disc, faster than previous magnetic media, but still include loading screens to disguise the amount of time taken to initialize the game in RAM."

in order to load the stuff into the ram faster, youll want to access it faster, thats why hes trying to go for ramdisk
i tryed that before and it didnt give me any faster loading screens, maybe it has to do with java(being in separate drive) maybe whatever, i dont know

"i understand nothing of HDD and stuff, but im guessing ull want to decrease read time for whatever block size is being accessed the most when sk is on loading screen"

this is not an advice, its just a guess..
im not marketing, advertising, trying to make him spend money or promising him any faster loading times, so why would i be giving an advice?
im just sharing my own experiences with ramdisk, when i had a system very similar to his and somebody in these forums said "ramdisks are stupid fast" in the context of a discussion about loading screens

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 06:59

Skepticraven

Java options.

http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/12849

I use the -server and -Xmx1G

The first option is use more processing power (server mode), the second is allocate 1G if memory to the game immediately.
Since the thread is old, some of the options may no longer work in the game (causing it not to start). If thats the case, delete extras.txt or change what is inside.

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 19:28

Thunder-Man

thanks everyone..

thank you everyone for your awnsers..

my internet speed is not a problem with the SK i got 2.4mb on night and in the afternoon i have 300kb/s (not lagged c:)

the game work fine (when is not fulled with jelly bombs or fulled with enemys) the only thing i want to know how to fix or whatever is the loading screen when you going to another place or going to example (1%... 10%...) it take like 2-3 mins to load to 100%

i got a desktop is extremly old...
that old pc specs are:

graphics: gma3100 (i use old drivers and the game working fine just with 15fps
RAM: 2gb DDR2
1.50ghz @ 1.32ghz (dual-core) so that mean 2.99ghz

Wed, 10/30/2013 - 20:31

No-Thanks

cpu

"1.50ghz @ 1.32ghz" not sure what thats supposed to mean, but frequency doesnt add up like that:"(dual-core) so that mean 2.99ghz"
dual core only means, that ur cpu has twice as much performance available, but at the same speed, which would be 2x 1.50ghz is not 3.00ghz, its still 1.50ghz, but with 2 cores, its like taking 2 clocks and putting them side by side, they still run at the same speed
simplified means something like dual core can do 2x tasks at the same time, while 1 core would only be able to do half as many tasks at a time(1x)

i understand that you want faster loading times, but loading the files from ramdisk might not make it faster

other than getting a faster cpu(my 1st computer from 14 years ago clocked at 1.80ghz..), maybe defragging your HDD could help

if your loading times are really 2-3 mins, then maybe also try to move this to technical issues
i wanted instant loading times, but i had normal loading times 30-60(more like 30) seconds at most, but you have even worse loading times

also im not sure if youre aware of this, but lets say the ramdisk method works out for you, then you would have to copy the data after every boot into the ramdisk, because ram is completely deleted when the computer is shut off

for better communication, it could help to mention, what ur native-language is, maybe somebody with more technical knowledge speaks it and can give better information

Thu, 10/31/2013 - 16:50

Thunder-Man

my native language is spanish

my native language is spanish lulz..

Thu, 10/31/2013 - 20:40

The-Worst-Knight

I tried Ramdisk, it doesn't

I tried Ramdisk, it doesn't help a lot.

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