Spiral Knights - Twenty One Tournament

Twenty One Tournament

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Fri, 11/01/2013 - 12:44

Skeptics

Twenty-One Tournament
(Battle of the Gods)

I’m proud to present the long awaited and severely unwanted Twenty One 1v1 Tournament! Fighters from all over the guild will enter to win the wonderful prize of your own entry fee and hopefully special donations. Do not be discouraged for matches will clearly be recorded by our hosts, La-Cal and Redblades, to see just who is willing to bring history to the table.

Tournament will be conducted by your beloved hosts:
Darkcub, Ezho, Jumazo, La-Cal, Mereke, Rebel-Ex, and Redblades.

- Story line -

Our journey begins with the abuse of corny and unnecessary visual descriptions provided by this writer. Embedded in planet Cradle, exists a beautiful kingdom named “Twenty One” filled with marvelous swords and spam-in-a-can. Here lived King Jumazo, a troublesome, blood lusted warrior with a short temper for patience. King Jumazo had recently escaped the castle (box) in hopes to rid his boredom and fled towards a nearby village. The kingdom's people began to fear the king was lost forever because it was unusual for him to not attend his fencing lessons.

Jumazo later found himself inside a bar named “El Bar de Darkcub” where he met with the village’s local drunk, Mereke. The man spoke a rather confusing form of Spanglish and continuously described his views on Cradle warriors as “P A T E T I C”. It was here which Jumazo learned of the people’s hero, Ezho, army of one. He was told the story concerning our hero’s heroic actions against the evil ugly hater madafaka Feller in the city of Bestias. The warrior fought bravely and honorably to defend his village from any more thoughtless terrorism. Sadly, the beloved warrior was captured by lost souls for the infernal regions of Cradle hold neither regret nor fear. King Jumazo was consumed by an unbearable rage and pledged to retrieve Ezho, setting his sights on Emperor Feller.

After countless seconds of endless wandering, Jumazo found the enigmatic city of Bestias. As he travelled among remains of the desolated city, he stumbled upon a coliseum. Fortunately for Jumazo, the king had found the very destination he was seeking. Above his sights stood the wretched abomination (no offense) and his adorned pony with maracas. With no hesitation, Jumazo declared war, promising to purge the Emperor’s existence. Feller glared at the ambitious King and named his fate . . . “Lockdown”. The stage quickly turned into a realm of destruction with deadly gases permeating the air. Jumazo was held subject of the Emperor’s heartless actions and began to fight his way through countless soldiers. Here he joined forces with many knights sharing mutual hatred for the Emperor and the imprisonment of Ezho. Jumazo professed it is our warrior’s pledge to free our fallen hero and survive this dreaded wreckage.

- Regulations -

You may NOT use the following weapons: Pulsar alchemy line & Warmaster rocket hammers

You may NOT heal during a battle, only after each round.

You are advised to remain in the given cap area (e.g. If the match is at capture point #3, we do not expect one to drag the fight away to a different capping zone).

You may NOT use any form of insulting language towards an opponent before, during, and after a match. Such action will not be tolerated and will have you disqualified.

You are advised to bleed with excitement. (Please, don’t take it literally).

! ! THE USE OF AUTO-TARGET IS AVAILABLE ! !

- Registration -

Please mail your entry fee to authorized personnel, Jumazo, with no trust issues. Entrance fees 20,000 crowns per player.

Prizes will go as follows:
First place - 50%
Second place - 35%
Third place - 15%

- FAQ -
Contact your nearest Guild Master or Officer.

**The Pandemonium Begins on November 8, 2013!

My name is Rebel-Ex and I approve this message.

Disclaimer: Everything used on this document was fundamentally mine for recreational use and hereby announced as a simple form of entertainment.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 12:56

Krakob

P A T E T I C

I thought it would be a GLD tournament since you used your guild name and all. Aaaanyways, have fun!

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 13:06

Bleyken

AT nubs!!!!!

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 13:13

Skeptics

@Krabob Thanks

@Krabob
Thanks =o

@Contri
/bows

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 13:13

Grimranger

top 5 funniest crap I've ever read.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 13:49

Iexi

love me

u only banned hammer becuase i would win..but ill mail u crs soon

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 14:15

Whimsicality

There never really is any way to balance fights like this for Recons, is there? Nevertheless, consider me interested.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 15:44

Terrty

i was going to join

but 20k entry fee... that's not a fee, that robbery/....

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 16:12

Jawny

@terrty
robbery? all the money is being split

if you can do math, 50 + 35 + 15 = 100
that means 100% of the prize money is given back.

Fri, 11/01/2013 - 19:20

Vivideus

There's one rule you forgot

There's one rule you forgot to add concerning recons
Recons:

May shield and go anywhere before match starts
Must not hit anyone

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 00:02

#10

Whimsicality

How to balance this for everyone, so that Recons may also get a fair chance:

Have both combatants start far apart, so that they may still be in view of the spectators in the center of the point, but far enough that the combatants cannot see each other until the round starts and they approach the capture point. This gives Recons a chance to cloak and position themself without a striker instagibbing them because they already see where they started.

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 00:44

#11

Dragneel-Wiki

Regardless of the idea of the tournament itself, you deserve an applaud for that story.

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 04:27

#12

Duio

hmmmmmm

I don't know if I should join or not......

I really like participating in tournaments , but 20k is a lot to me idk hmmmm I might

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 07:56

#13

Blue-Flood

You banned a gun and allow AT... so I'd get hit from 4 tiles away from AT brandish or flourish and can't go full retard in response? hahahahahahaha. Good luck to the rest of you!

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 08:28

#14

Siglez

Meh

I ain't joinen but, with all the AT and ASI complaints that I am assuming is going to happen in this tourn - http://i.imgur.com/tHw0b.gif

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 10:00

#15

Rezzler

If this is a guild tournament

If this is a guild tournament for 21 members only, why is it here? Anyways, sounds cool since 21 is better than jempire (jempires are getting REALLY sucky in lockdown, but they seem to be nicer somehow. Is ther e a correlation between LD skilll and niceness? Oos 21 going to turn into a guild full of try hard loners like the previous jempire? The hypothesis stands......YES)
Videos wud b coOl. Thnx bye

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 10:02

#16

Krakob

@Blueflood

AT doesn't increase range. Where'd you get that from?

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 10:33

#17

Jawny

@krakob
the latency makes it look like its from farther away, and then you teleport to the enemy who hit you.

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 10:51

#18

Whimsicality

Seems like the complaints are misguided then. Whine about latency, which cannot be controlled, rather than Auto Target, which can be argued to gimp your aiming rather than aid it in more scenarios than you'd like to believe.

Either way, whining won't do anything outside of looking like a whiney brat, just like 95% of the Lockdown community.

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 10:57

#19

Krakob

@Jawny

Then Blueflood should whine about latency instead!

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 12:29

#20

Sirius-Voltbreaker

But but...

I'm so good with a hammer.... You must've banned it because of that! Hmph! Also how about de op new obsidiaan weps?

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 12:34

#21

Krakob

@Sirius

Nothing OP about them. The only one that's plain better than something that has been around since earlier is the Obsidian Carbine. And the poison chance is 5% as far as I know.

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 15:17

#22

Bleyken

Why ban Polaris and Hammer? Good players should have enough skill to dodge the Polaris and Hammers.

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 15:55

#23

Krakob

What Contri said. The thing that I find the silliest when people whine about others who abuse Hammers and AT and Polaris is that they state these people are noobs and also that these tactics are overpowered. If they're overpowered and the ones who whine don't use these strategies, the only logical conclusion is that those who use the overpowered strategies win if you ask me. We can thus conclude that whiners < AT/hammer/polaris noobs ;D

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 16:28

#24

Deala

@Krabob and probably any other join-ins

Well.. after multiple attempts to log into Rebel-Ex, I came to the conclusion that the page for steam logins don't work for me at the moment

And yes, I did make that description for the 21 wiki page.
Yes, I knew I was logged into Aeons-Forum.
Yes, I still commented.
Yes, the reason for commenting was because: in the end the reason for why I did it was the same reason I'm making this comment again.
Yes, thank you for noticing my description on the wiki page.
Yes, I am now officer in the wiki.
Yes, I do like your comments.
Yes, I like to spend time reading comments I find unimportant.
Yes, Twenty One is a beautiful piece of garbage. I love the guys here and they're all friendly to me.
Yes, sometimes they're not friendly.
Yes, I can handle it and not whine.
Yes, it is because I like the guild members and prefer it over whatever else is out there.
Yes, I do like the way you notice things and still comment after seeing that most of the people who are here really don't..well care
Yes, I believe this is a lot of yesses
Yes, I am aware that probably isn't a word
Yes, Twenty One is still here and yes I don't know for how long and yes I care because if it does die then I'll just get bored once again.
Yes, I will answer any questions or reply to any comment regarding this message
Yes, as I make the reply for possible replies I will continue to be uninterested in making the reply
Yes, thank you for reading if you did
Yes, I really don't care what you're saying but yes I will consider reading
Yes, this yes is for extras.
Yes, please get off my ego.

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 17:15

#25

Krakob

@Aeons

Wrong thread much? Who are you, by the way? I've never known who owns Aeons-Forum.

Anyways, Steam log-ins for the Wiki has never worked. You need an alt account for the moment*.

*the next eightythreeandahalfyears

Edit: Nevermind. Just noticed that I'd misread that. So you're Rebel Ex.

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 17:10

#26

Whimsicality

"Remove AT! Remove Polaris! Remove combos! Remove AT! Remove Anti Aliasing! Remove Hammer! Conform to my needs because I am a scrub with an unwarranted sense of self importance!"
~Somebody

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 17:50

#27

Deala

Heyyy, let's limit the boring

Heyyy, let's limit the boring stuff to use mainstream weapons

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 17:59

#28

Deala

@Krabob

It's a shared account for Palo + Grim + Reb

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 18:24

#29

Krakob

Well then, I'll have no idea who I'm talking to! :D

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 18:30

#30

Deala

xD Palo doesn't know the pass

xD Palo doesn't know the pass anymore
Grim never uses this
I'll barely use it =P but I'll state who I am

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 21:23

#31

Rotten-Forums

I would join, but knowing my

I would join, but knowing my guildies... I know everyone of them is capable of whooping my butt. Wai u no make dis balanced for bombers? :x

Sat, 11/02/2013 - 22:53

#32

Blue-Flood

@Krakob, the only time I notice the 2-4 tile away kill by a sword swing is when the opponent uses AT. This is a non-issue when facing someone who does not have it, as the AT disregards any latency suffered on either end and just uses whatever is on the swingers screen to register hits... hence it being an extreem advantage to those that have low ping...
Not the biggest issue if you're completely asi agro player, but if you spend a lot of time trying to predict your opponent and dodge their hits then this is probably the most frustrating threat you can come across... and really isn't anything new. Are you relatively new to LD?

I would like to join this but the only times i can really play reliably is between 8-10am EST, even without full retard polaris. Biohazard ftw!

Sun, 11/03/2013 - 00:24

#33

Vivideus

OK everyone This is a (very

OK everyone
This is a (very legit?) tournament thread.
This is not a whining thread.
This is not a trolling thread.
This is not a AA/AT/Hammer/Whatever discussion/ranting/raging/whining/whatsoever thread.

So, please send your crowns to pwny/fellah/whoever it is...I'll wait for the results to come out snickering in a dark corner xD

Btw, guy who got hit by GFs from 8 tiles away every day says hi :P (yup I am whining)

Sun, 11/03/2013 - 03:09

#34

Krakob

@Blueflood

I'm not relatively new to LD. Do you have any proof for these statements? They make no sense to me and I have never witnessed anything that AT does anything but a purely client side up to 45 degree aim correction when standing still.

Sun, 11/03/2013 - 03:41

#35

Blue-Flood

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Szvyw1my5p0

Around 5:00 - 5:05 when Ezho wails on me. Not only are the hits a few tiles away, but the damage comes out before the swing. Sweet AT goodness :) Almapirlo does it with a flourish several times aftwards. With 4 bars on my end you'd think that wouldn't be an issue.

Sun, 11/03/2013 - 03:38

#36

Krakob

Do you have footage of the same bit from the perspective of another person? Only someone who is not you or Ezho sees what the server sees.

Sun, 11/03/2013 - 03:45

#37

Blue-Flood

Nope. When I ask they always say they're right next to me. Some day perhaps i can give duo recording a try... time is never on my side when it comes to coordinating these things.

Sun, 11/03/2013 - 03:48

#38

Krakob

I definitely think this is something that requires quite a bit of testing. You'll probably want three recordings, no matter. From the attacker, the attacked, and a thid person who is spectating.

Sun, 11/03/2013 - 03:58

#39

Blue-Flood

I judge it based on videos I've seen of the same people playing. Mostly that moment when on their screen they hit a person.. and instead of reacting the victim just stand there stunned for a second which you know the other person would never do. It allows you to stun lock the person to death - especially with the lack of knockback and huge damage output of a brandish. I'm guessing it's server correction or something.. no idea - but it def favors the attacker. Again it's a non-issue if AT is not used - they react normally to being hit. This is just me observing and trying to combat it. My usual solution to this involves using way too much striker dash that even if i dodge a swing or two i'll end up losing the stamina game and be a victim of a smart player or their teammate.

..what was this thread about again?:)

Sun, 11/03/2013 - 05:21

#40

Krakob

People who stand still has nothing to do with AT. They just stand still. I used to do it and many who don't know the game too well still do. It's a matter of not making any movement input because one simply pressed the attack button while holding a sword and expected to attack (and be unable to move while attacking) but could not due to being interrupted.

Sun, 11/03/2013 - 06:04

#41

Bleyken

Answer my question about Polaris and Hammer!

Sun, 11/03/2013 - 06:20

#42

Krakob

^
I do wonder as well.

Sun, 11/03/2013 - 06:33

#43

Blue-Flood

Pretty sure that's what part of stun lock is, since you'd be swinging and the person with AT would technically be hitting you back in time - so on their screen your swing never even starts it's animation (the other part either being hit by ghost range or rubber banding back in to place). If you want to talk about the forensics and brokenness of AT MSG me instead in game. This forum posting thing is tedious.

Sun, 11/03/2013 - 07:56

#44

Krakob

Pretty sure it's not. This isn't going anywhere unless we get some footage from three perspectives regardless. Thank you for a proper debate about auto target, though.

Sun, 11/03/2013 - 10:29

#45

Skeptics

@thread

Only one answer for this

Sun, 11/03/2013 - 15:16

#46

Feyi-Feyi

Mm I might misunderstand you Blue but it's perfectly possible to stunlock people without AT?

Sun, 11/03/2013 - 15:35

#47

Whimsicality

4 bar connection, consistently less than 100 ms ping, and yet someone with 400+ ping is able to gain phantom range on me because the way OOO handles calculating what counts as a 'hit' is just confusing as balls.

I'm going to blame Anti Aliasing.

Sun, 11/03/2013 - 16:01

#48

Skeptics

Good ol' phantom striking !

Then it got reduced to smithereens cause according to Eater, my range was bulls#!t

Oh well, still able to use what's left of it.. even though focusing on where it starts now requires thinking.

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 03:41

#49

Blue-Flood

@Feyi-Feyi: Ya stun locking

@Feyi-Feyi:
Ya stun locking can be done without AT for sure. You'd have to be better at outguessing where the opponent might dodge to. Often times people try to counter the offense with another swing which would do them in, and rubberbanding is less noticable against people without AT. Fayite for example - I can do a full circle around them and expect to be hit no matter what direction I go because of AT - leaving me little choice but to retreat instead of having fun with an in close gun vs sword battle. Without AT, a wall is your greatest ally since you could flourish knockback them in to the wall several times.... but I'm probably not telling you things you don't already know :)

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 04:44

#50

Theirillusion

Tell me again what the point of a tournament with AT is?

Maybe to tell who's best? Oh wait, AT does the job for them. I declare AT the winner.

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