I mean, some players can do so well with bombs, I shutter to think what would happen if bombs got buffed across the board.
Certainly some bombs, like shards, are gimped, but what some players do with DR and DBB... it's kind of crazy. Like, if there were an elemental damage equivalent to a DBB, it seems like they'd outclass us swordies.
I dunno, just my thoughts.
As a pure bomber (twelve 5* bombs, and my only other 5* is the honor blade), I definitely feel like a "utility class". Which is to say, I don't have any soloability, and I'm pretty useless against bosses, even in a party, with some exceptions (spam venom against Royal Jelly, spam shiver against Vanaduke). Put me up against something as simple as a Battlepod, though, and I'm toast.
I wouldn't give up bombing for anything, though. I wanted to play a support role, and that's exactly what I got. I get some grief for my all-bomb loadouts, and I've even been kicked from parties because of it, but it's their loss, IMO.
In any case, you don't have to worry about bombers taking over SK any time soon. With the way Radiants work now, and bombers needing CTR max to begin being effective, we're definitely gonna see a decline in bombers at the "endgame" grade of play. Since it's now unrealistic to build up an arsenal of five-star, level 10 gear, and the CTR Med from level 10 is pretty much a necessity, bombers are definitely gonna peter out.
Battle Pods are incredibly easy with it. It's just the attacks you have to dodge is what's tricky.
EDIT: Sniped.
Damienfoxy; Bitsbee: Nah, I don't have DR. I'd love to get it (especially since I got a Masky with Deadly Shadow Cloak), but... yeah, Radiants. Sadface. I use shard bombs instead, since they hit three times and you can stack them a bit before the shield goes down. Still takes a heck of a long time while solo.
And Bitsbee: I'm sure you know this already, but Nitro in a party is super bad news. It's a nice solo bomb, since you can use it to play keep-away with swarms of enemies. In parties, though, the successive blast effect obscures the screen for everybody, and the knockback causes people to lose their targets-- or worse yet, take damage from enemies. In a situation like an arena, using nitro is downright deadly for everyone. It sucks when, say, a jelly is winding up its spin attack, and you nitro it into a buddy and get him killed. (The solution to this is to use DBB instead, though you can't use it against jellies or constructs.)
i used to main as a bomber, till i sold em all for obsidian boxes. chaos set and bombs, damage trinkets, max CTR and damage, i could waltz through everything with a bomb
Solo bombing was always easy. Just have to be patient, bombers seem more constantly frowned upon almost purely because there's not enough damage to any one thing and too much knockback to account for the lack of individual damage. Bombing is nothing more than attrition, which requires patience, which...unfortunately, many people do not seem to have.
If swordies were like bombers, they'd only have leviathan, two different CIVs, a piercing damage acheron, a shadow damage flourish, five different cutters, four different FoVs with different statuses, and uhh... I don't really know a good analogy to vortex bombs, but something like those.
(old) Radiant Sun Shards.
LET THE FIRESTORM..... COMMENCE!
Have you ever tried PvP guardbombing? I use BKC, vdemo, dbb, and obsidian crusher (and sometimes dr if i have the space). Its SO fun.
Also, nitrome is basically required for SL's unknown passage. Creates a nice safe zone for your party members.
Having a good bomber in your team makes you all warm up inside. (Might be the Asi of Agni detonating)
Going to SL Ice Queen with bombers is oodles of fun. I consider Bombers to be the best Teamwork Class in-game.
Bombers need more love than Gunners.
They usually blind me with all those flashy fireworks.... and always i got killed cuz that. Also i dont think Vaporizer are "Bomber" bombs...
Also i dont think Vaporizer are "Bomber" bombs...
Why not?
Problems with bombs.
Attacking requires a large time commitment which restricts blocking and mobility.
This time commitment creates too big of a vulnerability in the fast paced pvp environment of LD.
Way to fix.
Remove time commitment. Increase fuse time to compensate.
Bombs could be balanced if they worked the way they do in Blast Network (aka no charging). If I had to guess I would say OOO either felt that bombs should at least use two weapon affixes or perhaps they were just afraid to make bombs too bomberman. They ultimately forced this charge system on bombs without any regard for game balance.
The way bombs are now most players including myself only use them as secondary weapons for specific situations.
Just spam storm driver charge and watch them spaz out.
As a swordsman I hate nitronome! That damn explosion is too bright and too much screen shake (not to mention knockback).
I said vaporizer arent "true bomber" bombs cuz you dont need a bomber gear/trinkets since you only want to spread the status and no the damage of the bomb.
Damm we need a damage elemental bomb.. shard is really meh.
i had exactly 1 person like my bombing
even an old ingame friend, who i know for about 2 years, still hates my bombs, calling them "flashy" and stuff
its the bombers, that are scared..
If ooo removes the invi ticks in shard bombs...mmmmmmmmmmm
I used to be a sword-gun hybrid. then, after taking several chairs to the knee, making me fall many times, I tried DBB. then SSS, cause it didn't entierly solve my problem. SSS works. thanks stun.
SSS sucks. I tried it out, it's just fail.
I'd love it if it was good, but it isn't.
I have to agree. Dark Briar Barrage is just so much more easier to use than the Sun & Splinter Shard Bombs.
Nitronome easily outclasses the Deadly Shard Bomb.
The Salt & Crystal Bomb look decent, though. Are they any good?
SSS is good and all, but only because of stun. I prefer it more than DBB cause with it I get hit less by devilites (pesky little devils), but with all the other enemies, DBB all my life. then there's the fact my SSS is stuck at level 8, but that's beside the point.
If Devilites are involved, I bring out my Red-Hot Poker.
Bombs are nearly impossible to use on those troublemakers.
DBB is a fiend Killer.
Little CTR and they can be dropped frequently enough to keep the little buggers disrupted.
Happy Hunting,
-A
@Dasmir
I said vaporizer arent "true bomber" bombs cuz you dont need a bomber gear/trinkets since you only want to spread the status and no the damage of the bomb.
You don't need trinkets for anything. I use any weapon without stacking up trinket slots or the associated weapon gear, doesn't mean I'm not a swordsmen, gunslinger or bomber. If you don't think that status bombs are Damage Bomber bombs, then that might make a bit more sense, but it's still wrong as Ash of Agni and Voltaic Tempest are very effective at dishing out damage (I even use the latter as my primary DPS weapon)
Bombing does not need a buff or a nerf, but a mechanics change. Bombing needs to be faster paced and require more skill. I know it takes some skill, knowing when and where to put a bomb for its biggest effect, but it doesn't take long, and it isn't very high risk or reward.
If I could, I would suggest that we could kick and throw bombs. Some enemies (i.e. Gremlins) could be bomb-safe, making them dodge away from the bombs. It should also be possible to feint bombs, making it look like that you have created a live bomb when it will actually go up in smoke. Bomb-safe enemies would eventually lose their bomb reaction if you feint (and they react) enough times.
This would also make it more interesting in PvP...I know this idea is far fetched and probably controversial. So what? :3
Bombinh is funh but gunnerz are better
@Bitsbee:
If Devilites are involved, I bring out my Red-Hot Poker.
Bombs are nearly impossible to use on those troublemakers.
I find Dark Briar Barrage to work well for them. Run around evading while charging, place, shield up, boom. Run around evading while charging, etc.
Arenas
Nitronome
This is enough to make a Bomber look devastating.