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T2 LD:
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¤ Vs Lockdown Elites
¤ Vs Lockdown Aces
¤ Vs Celestial Vanguards
Others :
¤ Bullpig's Striker Boming
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And I'm sorry for being a dooshbag D: I've should have take a long time to think before i act D: I especially wanna say sorry to Ndognine-Forums, Fallconn, Lechery, Tt-Ham, Nottheanswer, Whimsicality, Klipik and memebers from BS D:
^Basically that, The old LD aces would've put a boot up your behinds >:L
Anything and anyone worthy of respect doesn't need self publicity. I want to like Brick Squad, I really do. This is making it incredibly difficult.
oh boy ( 's') i think what fall is trying to do here is promote the guild youtube, but in the wrong manner.
for starters, those are NOT the original titles. the guild matches weren't filmed to show us "pwning" anyone. the videos were mainly put up so our own guild mates could see themselves in action and watch others as well. the video with me in it was a demonstration of my strike bombing in T2 and was in NO way meant to be used to put other people down (i don't know how it could be since i did horrible in the match and the original title is "bullpig - T2 lockdown - strike bombing"). brick squad doesn't win every match, in fact, we have struggled to find our groove as a team lately. no guild master OR officer was informed about this post until today (11/10/13) when lechery pm'd me about it.
@Ndognine-Forums: "First thing I think of when I see these titles is 'oh, they only upload games they win.'"
the video that i recorded was a loss and i did very poorly. the gvg videos however are all wins. i'm unsure why we would put up videos of ourselves being destroyed, but to make things more realistic i suppose we should start just putting up the first video we film.
@Fallconn: "The old LD aces would've put a boot up your behinds >:L"
trust me, WE KNOW.
i'm sorry if this post made anyone out there think that brick squad is a bunch of "egocentric jerks", but we really aren't. if you would take the time to get to know us you would see that we're actually quite nice.
The old LDA would have ripped BS to shreds and would have pounded you guys to dust every time you entered gvg ;U
The old LDA would have ripped BS to shreds and would have pounded you guys to dust every time you entered gvg ;U
@Tt-Ham yes alright i think we ALL know this and if you read my first reply it would clarify some things for you ('-' )
"we're actually quite nice"
I really want to believe this. I really do. But when you have so many members who constantly complain about lag, say "lol" or /sad or whatever after every single death, I dunno.
Old Aces vs Brick Squad would be an interesting game; the metagame has changed a lot since then and I personally think you guys would win. But in terms of personal attitudes and creating a strong, healthy T2 community, there's really no comparison.
You guys are skilled, yes. But the egos, man. The egos.
The community in general is just flat out toxic to the point that it's incredibly frustrating to even play Lockdown anymore. Be it because of Brick Squad, Twenty One, what have you.
You'd probably have a better time putting everyone you come across on /ignore and just CTR Max calibur charge spamming in the middle of a crowd.
I can personally vouch that there are many nice people in Brick Squad. Brick Squad has over 100 members, so there will be outliers that are whiny or egotistical. They're trying to become a strong LD guild and they know that being toxic is the worst way to do that. I don't like to generalize an entire guild by the behaviors of a small few. LD isn't toxic because of any guilds, but because of a few whiny individuals. Brick Squad seems to be subject to a lot of stereotypes (hammer spammers, whiners, egotistical), but half of my friends list is from Brick Squad and they're perfectly cool people (unless you think I'm egotistical too and you don't care about my opinion xD).
@Brick Squad Your best bet is to clean up your guild. Try to straighten up your members who are giving you guys a bad name. People tend to think an entire guild is bad when they meet a bad person from that guild.
@Whimsicality Better yet! Hunt out the troll and freeze-lock him for the entire game while blowing him kisses.
@Offense-Armor
"unless you think I'm egotistical too and you don't care about my opinion xD"
Everyone's opinion matters, regardless of whether they are egotistical or not. It just sucks that the T2LD community has devolved so much from what it once was; it hardly feels like toxic players are the minority.
Since I'm busy burning bridges here, I value your opinion, but also feel that you're egotistical ._. You're an excellent guardian, but no need to hate on strikers so much.
@Whimsy
I've considered being more proactive with /ignore, but just hate to /ignore people knowing there'll be that one time they inevitably say something useful.
Calibur charge spam #1 strat, confirmed.
@Nottheanswer That's cool with me :D
It's not that hard to ignore the chat altogether. Especially when you don't care about the people talking anyway.
I'm not a veteran player, so any ideas as to why LD has become so much more toxic? I can't really see why it would be......
I still think the #1 strat is toxic vaporizer on the health pad.
Why is this in Coliseum? Shouldn't it be in Guild Recruitment? Or maybe Graveyard? :P
i do know about these players, but sometimes it's hard to pinpoint exactly who they are. we do try to deal with them and we have in the past, and we will in the future. not every guild is perfect and yes i agree that maybe 50 percent of the guild is annoying on some level, but there truly are some good people in the guild. you also have to keep in mind the age range of spiral knights, and the resulting maturity level of some knights. brick squad accepts players based on lockdown requirements (how often they play, are they not terrible, will they participate in gvg), and so it can sometimes be hard to know if they are annoying to begin with. that's why we wait and see through gvg and rld games. running a guild is harder than any of you are giving credit.
i would agree that the community is annoying and i used to be a part of that damage seeking gloating group but i realize that a) it's very annoying for people who have to listen and b) there have been better players before me and you and there will continue to be better players until the dawn of time. that being said, i apologize for any and all actions of my guild and would appreciate a message in game about any unpleasant experience you've had with a brick squad member so i can try to fix it.
i wish i could delete the whole post but 1) it's not my post and 2) i think it's good to discuss this and see how the community feels about our guild.
fall posted it here because it features lockdown videos. i suppose guild recruitment could be a better place for it, but fall has also posted a thread there. so maybe graveyard WOULD be the better place for it.
Oh man, is anyone from the old Aces still around? Would be a fun game, just for sport.
Haven't seen hide nor hair of Rdz or Riley in forever. Nor have I seen any of the others.
Was in the LD aces back when rdz, sky, frightless and riley was around... sky is still active but the others have either got tired of the game or just don't have the time anymore
I personally think old LD aces A-team vs. Brick Squad A-team would result in the demolishing of Brick Squad.
My problem with Brick Squad is that you guys rely super heavily on hammer/kilo (aka cheap tactics) to win.
The new LD aces is still better then you skill-wise, imo.
"I personally think old LD aces A-team vs. Brick Squad A-team would result in the demolishing of Brick Squad."
why does everyone keep saying this as if it is news to us. old LDA was incredibly strong. we're not trying to replace them or to challenge them and we never proclaimed to be better than them.
"My problem with Brick Squad is that you guys rely super heavily on hammer/kilo"
yes a fair amount of our members use these things but so do a lot of LDA members. there are also people who use different things besides pulsar and hammer in brick squad including me, dan, and pnusy. same goes with prolyphic, rangerwillx, and others in lockdown aces.
"The new LD aces is still better then you skill-wise, imo."
(correct the "then" to than. if you're going to make an argument, at least make it grammatically correct.)
lockdown aces is better than us skill wise? i'm not so sure. prolyphic and ranger are great with swift flourish and brandish, but so is danielflame and kiddoro from brick squad. i'm also alright with brandish. i'm not sure of any other members from either guild who can use anything other than a hammer or pulsar and do a fair amount of damage. there probably is a lot of them but none come to mind; either that or they haven't impressed me enough to make the list.
it would be interesting to have a match with brick squad's A team vs. LDA's A team (without auto-target just to make things even) to settle things once and for all.
>>and JUST FOR THE RECORD. rangerwillx and prolyphic were BOTH in brick squad before they moved to aeons and then eventually the new LDA. they left because recotah and dragon-karyu quit the game.
Also just for the record, BS took a bunch of CV members too. Karyu, Dan,...
we never "took" from you. they came by choice. aeons was actively recruiting our members in an attempt to better themselves while snatching our best players from underneath us. that my friend, is the difference.
Lol not really. The Brick Squad vs Aeons thing was completely my fault.
Rangerwillx was in Aeons before Bricks, I placed him in Bricks. I placed him in Aeons. I placed him in LDA.
We're a trio: Skybrandon Grimranger Rebel-Ex (Assassin's Creed)
Deal with the Brick Squad coming into Aeons was technically Karyu's cocky attitude towards other players. Most of Bricks judged Sky too much regarding his skill influence in his late days simply because you were expecting an elite player like himself to take such low skill output seriously.
I removed Prolyphic from Bricks to see exactly what would Karyu do without her prized possession, sadly the removal caused an internal distress in the guild leading to more members leaving the guild as well..
I placed Proly back into Bricks once I noticed the situation, and I tried to restore it. Unfortunately, Karyu and Recotah didn't feel as content with guild matters and reported they were planning on quitting game.
My guess was without their leaders the guild would most likely fall. Fortunately, that wasn't the case for the mighty Brick Squad, but I had already sent the warning message to the enitre guild broadcasting the situation.
Once again, I pissed off Karyu and that is why I was evidently removed from the guild for quite some time. The next few days were complete emotional torture and that pain was why I never returned to Brick Squad.
As regarding to skill in Bricks, yes they depend on overusing easy win weapons but doesn't always mean it doesn't require considerable amounts of skill.
Forest-Dragon is an awesome hammer spammer, just look at him taking out multiple players in 1v2s-1v5s. That silly POS is pretty confusing and annoying, but it is what it is.
I like the thread because exactly what it sparked: movement of opinions. I don't think the Lockdown community should remain completely pacifist since it does lose the fun of it, which is the feeling of competition.
I honestly don't know what to think of this, I even recently got my old alt back into Bricks. Looking at old history that I may have been there for, mainly the quitting of Karyu and Recotah... is quite... disheartening. Wait, how did we get here from Fall promoting the guild youtube page incorrectly?
Most are friendly, and I have no issue with them. I especially like Bullpig, always friendly and courteous.
My 2 cents, for what they are worth.
@rebel WAT? WHY? We almost died as a guild at that time.
Also we get it. Old lda woukd kick our a*** but we don't have an A-team at least I don't think so. It would probably have forest(how is it that i can pwn him, but he still, beats the sh*** out of everyone else? :( And we might have me depending on how mad I am, and my ping. We would have dan, kappa , pnusy bullpig and some others like Czar(swore I saw him get like 10 defends before)
And you would feel bad for us if you were in this guild for long. We get about like 5 leavers a week, and get dissed all the time. It is not our whole guild it is just a few self entitled douchebags like me who make us look bad.
I feel like it says something about BS and Aeons if one person managed to virtually single-handedly completely destroy one and reduce the other to a shadow of its former self. Guilds founded on the basis of LD only that continue to keep LD skill and GvG performance as their only discriminating factors are unstable.
It seems like BS was destroyed back then because of having unstable and reckless GMs. Rebel was no doubt an important player in the guild, but I doubt that he was a major factor in the decline of BS back then. I think it says something about the stability of lockdown guilds if BS is still around today even after all those setbacks. It's wrong to think that guilds that are only formed for the purpose of GvG are unstable because some of the strongest bonds can be made through those fights :P.
I'm not quite sure exactly why aeons disbanded, but it was probably because of inactivity of their GMs or something. Active Gms are very important to a lockdown guild.
Skybrandon left Aeons and it fell apart immediately.
@Perronius thank you sir :)
@Klipik-Forum: "I feel like it says something about BS and Aeons if one person managed to virtually single-handedly completely destroy one and reduce the other to a shadow of its former self."
uhh?? this is not the case sir. we are stronger than ever right now. we had a rough patch because we had unstable leaders who we now replaced with very strong, smart, and wise leaders. if you, or anyone for that matter, payed attention to the guild leader boards we have been 3rd for multiple weeks in a row. this week we're second on the leader boards under the jempire with 11k. and we aren't only reliant on pvp skills we do a lot of pie as well. i think the old bs was great, but this is the new era for brick squad.
@Offense-Armor: "I think it says something about the stability of lockdown guilds if BS is still around today even after all those setbacks"
thank you this is the right perspective to have about the situation :)
You said pie, instead of pve.....
but anyway, yes. Recotah was really reckless and lefrt us down in the dumps. I used to look up to him. Luckily, Bullpig, Simaster, Pnusy, Forest dragon, Czar, Danielflame and our other officers and GMs, are very nice.
BS may be stronger from the inside, but as an outsider it seems like you are much smaller, weaker, and not as eager to challenge us to GvGs and whatnot as you used to be. That's why I made that statement, but it also applies to Aeons and all the other short-lived LD-only guilds.
you know, that almost makes me happy that people find us "smaller, weaker, and not as eager to challenge to gvgs" because everyone will just be all the more surprised when they see what we're really like. i've said it once and i'll say it again, we aren't like every other stereotypical lockdown guild, we're going to be around for a long time to come, and that might be something everyone just has to deal with.
good night :)
I've faced Forest-dragon, Danielflame, bullpig etc... I don't consider them weak, AT ALL. I'm an OK LD player, but these guys beat me into the ground.
Elan never gets any love does he?
#iceburstswag
Well maybe it's time to claim my rietz players and play (beat) you guys again.
@Offense-Armor elandyr is a great lockdown player as well as biccboi and jayzio. I forgot to mention them. there are even more good players in brick squad. and we are always up for a challenge :)
#Yolo
and Aeons death was a complicated process with Skyb, but yeah pretty much.
I wasn't gonna run it without him
Funfacts:
Aeons wasn't a PvP-only guild
It did not die immediately after Sky left
It's been living since 2012 so not so short lived
If I'm not mistaken wasn't this the second iteration of Aeons? Or Endless Time, or whatever Sky's guilds have been called?
I wasn't mentioned :(
Well then again, I lag all the time so I can't even show my potential.
sorry man i don't play with you much, but from what i remember you beat me so you must be good :)
whatever. the fact is is that this is an incredibly stupid thread, and the OP is one of the reasons people have such little respect for BS.
Also, from what i remember, aeons lived for many months after Sky left.
@Sirius-Voltbreaker
The Terrty of Tier 2.
calling other people's conversations/debates "stupid" without anything to back up why you think so is pretty pathetic to begin with. second of all, the "op" in the title is what one of the guild members chose to call our guild. i know much more arrogant players who have done more obnoxious things. third of all, don't go judging a guild based on one member. that's like judging a pie based off of the crust!
By OP he means "Original Poster" or Hellscreams. He's not talking about the OP in the title.
@Anti-Danger
Note that Hellscreams did apologize for acting like that.
Sirius is joking. He's not actually arrogant as shown in his apologies.
guys I may be able to help with the fight if u are interested I was in old LD aces.
Thos were the good old days with them.
I actually was tested by dknightt k so when I was in (bout 2years ago) all I remember is dk me I think notthe was in rdznightzz rekillit and cant remember xD but guys if u read this I think we may be able to do this.
oh. well then in that case, if he did mean original poster, then my second point is irrelevant but my third point is even more relevant. stop judging guilds off of one player -.-'
That's how guilds are judged nowadays. Not by the majority, but by the minority who are arrogant/a-holes.
if he didn't delete the thread or say 'Brick Squad videos' then heh, it's not enough.
Are you saying that that's the CORRECT way to judge a guild?
If Fall deleted the thread/change the title, people will just think that the he is denying responsibility for the mistakes he committed.
What's done is done. Fall has clearly taken full responsibilities and apologized for his actions, that is - in my opinion - far more honorable than deleting this thread and hoping that people will forget about it.
We all make mistakes.
The correct thing to do now would be to stop posting on this thread and let it die as the issue has.
(aka if you post below me, you're doing it wrong.)
...if the poster was Fall-Hellscreams, just please don't call everybody who plays lockdown noobs; especially on the other team. For some of us, lockdown is just a minigame we sometimes play just to mix up our schedules on the game; we aren't that used to lockdown...at least not me.
Saying your the best is by no means the best way to get people to watch your videos. In fact, all your titles are doing is turning people off of your videos. First thing I think of when I see these titles is "oh, they only upload games they win."
And you can't call a guild OP that never when up against the original Lockdown Aces or any team with Skybradon.