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Shadow Lair Replica at Guild Hall

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Fri, 11/29/2013 - 13:12
Poopsie's picture
Poopsie

Ingredients:
25x Shadow Lair Mats
4x Large Replica

Fri, 11/29/2013 - 13:18
#1
Masterreeve's picture
Masterreeve
I make you black, bluue and red all over

Wait... what is this for?

Fri, 11/29/2013 - 13:33
#2
Poopsie's picture
Poopsie
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freaking big statue? cosmestic purpose? just another mats + crown sink, mostly.

Fri, 11/29/2013 - 13:49
#3
Vesperaldus's picture
Vesperaldus
+1

+1

Fri, 11/29/2013 - 13:54
#4
Masterreeve's picture
Masterreeve
I make you black, bluue and red all over

Let me rephrase my questions... What is a 'Shadow Lair Replica?' as in, what does it look like?

Fri, 11/29/2013 - 14:48
#5
Poopsie's picture
Poopsie
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non-existant yet, hence the suggestion, the shadow lair version of those 3 bosses statues.
this -> http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Armero_Alchemy_Machine

Fri, 11/29/2013 - 14:47
#6
Whimsicality's picture
Whimsicality

I assume they mean the Shadow Lair versions of the bosses, except with SL mats instead of token mats. Because, why not?

Fri, 11/29/2013 - 15:02
#7
Canine-Vladmir's picture
Canine-Vladmir
LUL

I always laugh when I read your name, Poopsie. *chuckles*

+1 but
How would the Rabid Snarbies be visualized? Two Snarbies or just one? Like the Roar Twins?

Fri, 11/29/2013 - 15:22
#8
Poopsie's picture
Poopsie
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gemini! meh, that's not the main point, it could be decided easily once they have the design up by devs.

Fri, 11/29/2013 - 15:49
#9
Masterreeve's picture
Masterreeve
I make you black, bluue and red all over

Spending 25 SL mats for a single trophy seems a bit excessive though. That would be 25 keys if payed by a single person, or 45k ce not including the 4 large replica statues.

Fri, 11/29/2013 - 16:24
#10
Poopsie's picture
Poopsie
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Large Replica alone is already excessive according to your description.
You need 64 boss mats for a large replica, which is 25 vana token, 18 roar token, 15 jelly token or 12 snarby token each.
now 25 vana token * 64 = 1600 tokens, which translates to 1.6 mil cr (somewhere a bit less 20 k energy) if you trade it for ancient armors instead.

It is luxury, you are not required to get the statue, and you're not missing anything beside your guild hall looking a bit more fancy.
Also, the key point is a guild hall. Anyone can pour in the mats. 25 SL mats could just mean 25 guild members doing a single SL. 25 could be run by 4 party members, around 6+ shadow keys. You should just calculate it with 450 energy per 1 mats, but crowns alone from the shadow lair trip almost pay off the 450 energy, unless you just run it on normal difficulty. And anyone sell SL mats less than 20 k crown each nowadays.

Fri, 11/29/2013 - 16:17
#11
Masterreeve's picture
Masterreeve
I make you black, bluue and red all over

But boss tokens are free to obtain, since there are no restrictions to go on a boss run. With this, you are forcing players to go on a SL buy buying the key first, which is an entirely separate fee from the normal cost of crafting a trophy.

Fri, 11/29/2013 - 16:23
#12
Poopsie's picture
Poopsie
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Boss tokens are "free". They only take your time and your real life >_>
Who said I am forcing? it is a luxury and anyone selling SL boss mats for less than 20 k cr nowadays, without the need to buy SL keys and run SL trips.

Fri, 11/29/2013 - 20:42
#13
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle

Spending 25 SL mats for a single trophy seems a bit excessive though. That would be 25 keys if payed by a single person, or 45k ce not including the 4 large replica statues.

Sorry, but who grinds Shadow Lair runs solo?

Sat, 11/30/2013 - 14:42
#14
Masterreeve's picture
Masterreeve
I make you black, bluue and red all over

Not solo, but it's not guaranteed that every SL run you do is with the guild. And you can't very well ask non-guild members for their mats to make a trophy that has nothing to do with them.

Sat, 11/30/2013 - 19:44
#15
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle
Goddess Ilias ain't gonna bless you, boy

Let me narrow down the part of your math I was specifically pointing out.

Not solo,
That would be 25 keys if payed by a single person

So even though you do it in a group, you shout everyone (guild run or not) a free ride and they don't have to pay any of the key costs?
Can I come on Shadow Lair runs with you?

Sorry, but whenever we calculate Shadow Lair prices for cost or for profit/loss, it is a given that a Shadow Lair key costs 450 energy.
Therefore the amount of energy needed to be paid in order to obtain enough materials for the boss statue upgrade mentioned in the OP would be 11,250.
That's not factoring in how much crowns you make in the Shadow Lairs themselves, which can chop 20-30% of the cost, assuming you do well for sparks.

Sat, 11/30/2013 - 19:51
#16
Masterreeve's picture
Masterreeve
I make you black, bluue and red all over

Yes, i see where i made my mistake. I was only pointing out the extreme maximum cost the trophy would have, if paid by a single person (now that i think of it, that doesn't seem very logical since it IS a trophy meant for the entire guild).

That being said, on a personal note i would still never use my hard earned SL mats to make a useless trophy, but that's just me.

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 05:40
#17
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Misty-Wellington
<insert witty comment here>

How would the Rabid Snarbies be visualized? Two Snarbies or just one? Like the Roar Twins?

____

I can imagine 2; one lying down and the other stood up hunched over licking it (giving it a bath).

It'd probably be inappropriate given their final statues are meant to look mean and awesome but (Rabid) Snarb's so cute!

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