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If, hypothetically speaking of course, Winterfest themed crafting happens...

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Sat, 12/07/2013 - 11:39
Exerpa's picture
Exerpa

... then please implement said hypothetical craftables via an earnable recipe rather than the limited crafting time window method.
A.K.A. More like Coliseum rewards, less like Apocrea (or a hybrid like Black Kats).

Rationale:
Since Winterfest comes only once a year, then missing the window of opportunity to make something results in waiting for another 12 months..
Presumably if Apocrea is to be seen every 6 months or so in the same way Black Kat probably is (assuming swapping time limited events in and out is now "a thing") then at least you won't have to wait too long if you get the itch to make one of those event items. Well, less long anyway.

My point being that if someone who doesn't want an item now might change their mind and want it later - I didn't want the Obsidian edge so I didn't make it. But if I change my mind then I know exactly what to do: Build up a Nightblade and keep it on standby until the event comes back.
Waiting 6 months with an item on standby, not ideal but tolerable. Waiting 12 months, not so much.

Of course if hypothetical items are introduced through the box system, like the Cleavers and The Bitter End, then I guess this plea is redundant.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 14:32
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Masterreeve's picture
Masterreeve
I make you black, bluue and red all over

Well the whole purpose of event items is that they are limited. If you do not acquire them during the event, then you should not be able to get them again until the event comes back. If the craftable gear was turned into recipes, then people would have access to them all year round, which would pretty much nullify the fact that they were even rewards.

Unless, of course, these recipes became bound the moment you acquired them like the coliseum ones, but even then it would not seem reasonable to make them recipes unless there were a large number of things to craft and it just wouldn't seem plausible to get them all in a single event. Take the Black Kat event, there were a total of 3 hoods to earn and 6 to craft (plus the BKC earned from the boss). Now going straight and crafting all the hoods in one go seems a bit too much, so OOO made the crafting machine and vendor permanent in Moorcraft. All players needed to do was store up a large number of tokens during the event, then buy and craft the hoods which could be done at any moment year round. That wouldn't be needed for Apocrea, since there are just 3 weapons to craft; it is completely possible to craft all three in the needed time.

So basically, the only way they should make recipes is if there were a large number of items to craft.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 14:35
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Mushy-Bucket
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Winterfest has no craftable items. It's all about playing Lockdown for extra profit and never playing the event mission.
I might add that it is solely an accessory/costume event, similar to the Hallow items from the Punkin King.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 14:35
#3
Masterreeve's picture
Masterreeve
I make you black, bluue and red all over

@ Mushy-Bucket
...Hence, the 'hypothetical' in the topic name.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 15:32
#4
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Mushy-Bucket
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The only thing they'll change is:
-We'll have a few hours or so of the event like it was last year,
-They'll say they need to balance it and reduce the token drop per level by about 50%,
-After a week or so more, they'll say "The results we've seen from players tackling the (Winterfest) mission have been most impressive! So much so (that we feel we must make the level worthless by increasing fiend & grinchlin spawn rates by 50%, reduce the time by 50%, and make presents worth 50% less! Thank you for enjoying Winterfest!)" (My version of the Apocrea update message).

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 20:25
#5
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Hexzyle

@Mushy-Bucket
Are you actually going to comment on the subject of the thread or just continue speculating that nothing new will be added?

@OP
The recipe idea sounds good, but only if it consumes tokens earned during the event. Having some people with the ability to create as many of these items as much as they want all year round while others cannot would have a sizable impact on the energy consumption for unbinds.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 21:35
#6
Exerpa's picture
Exerpa
@Masterreeve If I were to

@Masterreeve
If I were to pull a number of items out of the air like.. I dunno... more than half a dozen, would that be sufficient?

@Hexzyle
Is "a sizable impact on the energy consumption for unbinds" a bad thing though? More than the recent string of accessory sales?

Ultimately this is still in the realm of the hypothetical: Generic reskins like the Cleavers, Scissor Blade and The Bitter End are nice to have but you can achieve the same functions without them. Unique items like the Obsidian and Kat sets can change the game, but chances are we can access them at least twice a year.
Reskinned or Unique, that is the question. Might get the answer in a few days.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 21:45
#7
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Hexzyle

The items you're thinking about are crafted via an alchemy machine, presumably one that consumes the pre-requisite 4 star items and only is accessible during the promotion.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 14:25
#8
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Mushy-Bucket
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@Hexzyle
Well, I'm basing my ideas on the Dark Harvest, which had nothing new this year, and it is essentially the same class of event (holiday, costumes, accessories, no weapons).

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 15:38
#9
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Masterreeve
I make you black, bluue and red all over

@ Exerpa
Yea, 6 items is good. And have the crafting machine be stationary, like the Krogmo one or Kat helm one. Also, like Hex said, make the materials to craft them only be obtainable from event tokens like the Kat event. Either put the machine in the arcade, or modify one of the sections in Emberlight and put it there (the monsters for the event are gremlin related, so this would seem reasonable).

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:30
#10
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle

He said more than half a dozen. Meaning... 8 or 9.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 21:05
#11
Draycos's picture
Draycos

Everyone knows how I feel about temporary events locking content away until the event rolls around again.

In other words, 'screw exclusivity, these are unique items that have an impact on the game besides making you look shinier'.

I'm all for this.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 03:33
#12
Masterreeve's picture
Masterreeve
I make you black, bluue and red all over

@ Hexzyle
When I said 6, I meant it as a bare minimum number. Meaning that anything more than 6 would suffice. I know how to count >_>

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:35
#13
Exerpa's picture
Exerpa
Now that the cat's out of the

Now that the cat's out of the bag, I meant 7. Looks like a couple of things were held back. Hypothetically.
Assuming the new alchemy machine is permanent, then it serves the purpose - get what you want now, but still stock up on special mats in case you want other things later.

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