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Wed, 12/11/2013 - 11:12
Thalia's picture
Thalia
Game Master

Today's release notes can be found here: http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/94030

Edit: Today's Winterfest announcement can be found here: http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/94072

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 01:11
#1
Juvon's picture
Juvon
:o

Expected Winterfest, but this could be fun too.

EDIT: Cheers! OOO Let's have a drink on it.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 11:16
#2
Tiroth's picture
Tiroth
...

...no Winterfest? D:

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 11:19
#3
Draycos's picture
Draycos

Twitter said "this week". Are you patching again on Friday for some reason?

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 11:23
#4
Acck's picture
Acck
.........

Most useful patch of 2013!

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 11:24
#5
Blazzberry's picture
Blazzberry
I have no mouth and I need to scream

Well it does normally start on the 12th..

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 11:27
#6
Whimsicality's picture
Whimsicality

Winterfest has come December 12th every year thus far.

First was on Monday, the next on Wednesday. This one will be Thursday if the pattern continues.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 11:27
#7
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Autofire
You are experiencing a PICNIC ERROR!

Yay! More pickups!

I wonder how long it will take for someone to berate this update?

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 11:29
#8
Blazzberry's picture
Blazzberry
I have no mouth and I need to scream

inb4asaltypersoncomplainsaboutthisupdatebutnogunner

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 11:36
#9
Acck's picture
Acck
..........

I have been waiting sooooooo long for an improved walkthrough for the Time to Get Crafty mission.
What took you soooooooo long.

8/

Happy Hunting,
-A

*******SARCASM ALERT*********

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 12:02
#10
Sroell's picture
Sroell
Yay!

Thank you so much for fixing that auto target/chat bug! It was so irritating!

And less important, clicking on the battle sprite HUD portrait opens the character window? Also yay! :D

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 12:17
#11
Canine-Vladmir's picture
Canine-Vladmir
if...

If its a big patch then they snuck in the Winterfest in and wont "activate" it for tomorrow/this week?

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 12:21
#12
Parasthesia's picture
Parasthesia
Interesting update. I'm not

Interesting update. I'm not sure of the logic behind the boost pickups though. Is this to make the game easier for new players to pick up and add more speed to grinding for current-endgame players?

What did these pickups replace in the drop table? Are we going to be seeing less coins and heat?

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 13:00
#13
Whimsicality's picture
Whimsicality

Minor tweaks, or a way to sneak in the upcoming Winterfest update? Crafty crafty, OOO.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 13:05
#14
Spiral-Depot's picture
Spiral-Depot
yayyyyy!!!!

More useless pickups to take the place of crowns and lessen the pay out. *thumbs up*

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 13:25
#15
Skepticraven's picture
Skepticraven
Winterfest is here

Unless its a bug, check prestige missions.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 13:28
#16
Aphrodite's picture
Aphrodite
Community Manager
Happy Winterfest!

Winterfest is here!

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 13:33
#17
Jabbzz's picture
Jabbzz
:3

You sneaky sneaky people, +1

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 13:34
#18
Dermog's picture
Dermog
I like my poker. Don't judge me.

"Spiral HQ has located the Grinchlin base of operations on Mount Krampus"

:O

A surface mission? *Tears of joy*

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 13:36
#19
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Whimsicality

AHAHAH.
THEY FINALLY USED THE GREMLIN MUSIC THAT'S BEEN UNUSED FOR SO LONG. YES.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 13:52
#20
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Magnum-Frost
-Generic Subject Line-

Glorious

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:10
#21
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Momofuku
Can both Winterfest Prestige

Can both Winterfest Prestige missions be repeated within the same day? Or are they also once-per-day Prestige Missions?

Are some of the previous Winterfest items not available this time? I don't see them listed in any prize box drop list for this year's Winterfest event. (Impostoclaus Set, Snowfall Aura, Crest of Winter)?

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:07
#22
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Mushy-Bucket
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I'm very hopeful these new boost drops didn't replace crowns and heat. They better have replaced useless vials.
Tweeter And Friends are gonna go off on me, but I'm still looking for that bullet point that mentions the radiant drought.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:36
#23
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Krakob

Where do we craft the new weap- err, reskins?

Edit: Okay, I found it was in the Arcade. You might wanna add that to the notes.

Edit 2: in other news, I want to thank you, OOO. Thank you for releasing a new interesting mission, pretty reskins, and a bright Haven. I feel like a kid who got a new game for christmas (although it's hardly a new game, heh). Some excitement and new fun in a game is much appreciated by a Swede when dawn is after you leave for school and dusk is before you leave for home.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:34
#24
Skepticraven's picture
Skepticraven
@Krakob

THANKS! Was wondering. Also Ugh. 150 razor ribbons. That's a lot.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:38
#25
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Leafblader
MOO!

THE MINIBOSS IS AN IRONWOOD SENTINAL!

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:43
#26
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Thunder-The-Bright
gods ain't gonna help you, son.

let's see:
more pickups: now with moar MOAR speed! only that makes me happy. alas, I don't have MSI VH yet. for the others, meh. I hope that the defense buff is not as high as the iron heart attack. I know you OOO...
winterfest: yay, killing gremlins in missions AND sabotaging their operation center! that's the way to counter someone (and to add more prestige missions to make me play, kudos OOO)

Leaf: pics or I will find it out myself. I will actually find it out myself anyway.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:43
#27
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Xtweeterx
Yaaaaaaaaaay!

Now I wish I didn't make my barbarous thorn blade a week and a half ago.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:52
#28
Whimsicality's picture
Whimsicality

Now I have use for my 2k Shinings crystals. Time to turn my ASI High Flourish into a candy cane of death and stuff!

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:21
#29
Xtweeterx's picture
Xtweeterx
@Mushy-Bucket

Actually I have nothing on you for the new things.

What I have about the new things is

"Wait... Speed boosters... Power and defense boosters? From monsters? Oh great. Thanks for giving MORE EXCUSES for imbalance nerds to complain". "It's only a matter of time before... Z-guy comes in..."

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 16:09
#30
Acck's picture
Acck
........

/happy

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 16:10
#31
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Donald-Jtrump
Worst update ever. Waste of

Worst update ever. Waste of sparks and money.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 16:39
#32
Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

OMG this is the greatest update at all!

My one complaint is that its wayyy too well done to be a cruddy event. Like seriously, this needs to be a thing at all times. Not just for a few weeks. That'd make my day.

But seriously, this is wonderful and I might just buy some CE because of how much I like it the content.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 18:38
#33
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Zeddy

Yeah, this is a pretty solid mission. Legitimately hard even when I don't hold back. It's hard for all the right reasons, yet entirely managable with teamwork and tactics.

It was really trivial on Normal mode, on the other hand. It seems so counter-productive to let danger missions be played on Normal mode.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 18:44
#34
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Doom-Exx
Do we get bonus CE from CE

Do we get bonus CE from CE purchases? Cuz When I went to the buy CE page it didn't say I would get bonus CE.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 20:05
#35
Exerpa's picture
Exerpa
Antigua guns got a minor

Antigua guns got a minor redesign. The hood ornaments are now constructed with a series of fins to fake thickness, no more folded sheet metal.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 20:37
#36
Xtweeterx's picture
Xtweeterx
Holy...

Please nerf the Grinchlin material requirements to make stuff from that crafting machine o_o

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 20:53
#37
Gkku's picture
Gkku
Doing the math so you don't have to

Assuming that event alchemy machine is here to stay, then that means all you need is the materials and then you're free to get the equipment whenever you feel like it.

Of course, all the materials you're gonna need if you intend to craft them all someday:
525 Spoiled Treats
475 Lumps of Coal
375 Razor Ribbons
375 Bottomless Stockings
60 Indestructible Giftwraps

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 01:58
#38
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Chainguy
Hmmm...

To be honest, the only thing i dislike on the mission is the boss, and the stupid amount of shadowmanes.

Every other part of the mission i like, good tough enemys and great combos, layout is great too. It's more of a much bigger arena gauntlet, but the shadowmanes and the boss? No, just no.

There are FAR too many shadowmanes to deal with, if you go solo on this, you will be marked for death constantly which i find completely unfair. Even in a party, i seen the WHOLE party get marked for death non-stop, not fun in my opinion. It would be if you made it like only one shadowmane per wave instead of sending like 4 at a time in our faces. they also have way too much health, this needs to be reduced a little, or do the former and less the amount of them per wave.

The boss in it's current state is far too overpowered and unfair, it's due to everything in it RESPAWNS. Combined with the insane amount of health the enemys have, such as shadowmanes, and you have a room of death. Even now, i only beaten it once, just once. Because we spammed SoL and nuked the boss. 2 rocket puppys, 2 shadowmanes, 1 greaver, 1 mender and 2 grinchlins that all respawn. Not fun. Sure i said i want harder content, but NOT this hard. I feel like this is some boss from WoW that has an insane amount of adds, but in 3D and top down.

Don't just think of going like "Hue, you suck! learn to play!" "Bring CC you moron.". No, i will say it now, Shut your big fat month and get a life, you just say that to taunt people or just play sucky bloodthristy LD. See for your god dam self.

Other then that, i am completely fine with this event, sad you didn't add anything new to save winterfest at all. I know this because i was here last year.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 03:27
#39
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Curious-Mewkat

I must say on behalf of many people out there, the Grinchlin mission is somewhat a disaster. Not only is it meant to exist for us to grind and grind (for those new weapons and stuff), there are quite a large amount of technical issues.

One, Graphical lag. This mission is very intensive on the graphics, with explosions, snowballs and a plethora of enemies on the screen all at the same time. This may force some people to lower their graphic options, and for the low-end users out there, they have to deal with it. That said, it might just be slightly excessive in terms of the amount of explosions happening around.

Secondly, there is a very huge issue with the internet connectivity. The amount of actions and scripts happening at the same time seems to stress the server, and this makes the mission laggier than it usually should be. I mean, even GiTM seems to be fine, but in this mission, especially the second level, the intensity of the firefight makes it too laggy and makes the game jittery, in the sense.

In my opinion, the mission doesn't appear too difficult to beat, but it's just because of the issues mentioned above that makes it much more unpredictable and thus, much more harder. Also, does the game really need to rely on a grinding system to promote gameplay? Anyways,

Merry Christmas :P

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 06:35
#40
Whimsicality's picture
Whimsicality
Shameless copypasta from my tumblr.

This first screenshot is a group of prizes boxes you get upon quitting after the first arena room in the Grinchlin Assault danger mission. These latter two screenshots display the prizes you get from completing both floors without quitting.

I’m curious as to which is more cost and time effective. It seems that if you’re able to blow through the mission with no Spark revives on Elite, go for the summit. It yields a combined total of 116 boxes, as opposed to quitting after the first room. Quitting after the first room is faster and is less risky, but you only get 12 boxes.

Now, my opinion of the mission? I was skeptical at first, because I didn’t know what to expect. I was excited and afraid at the same time, given OOO’s track record of making any sort of Danger mission a piece of garbage that’s either too easy, or too difficult without actual challenge. This time seems to be a fun balance of both.

What enemies should you expect? A bit of everything. Gremlin Menders, Gremlin Thwackers, Gremlin Scorchers, Ghostmane Stalkers, Slush Puppies, Red Rovers, Retrodes, Gremlin Demos, Lumbers, Trojans, Greavers, Glop Drops, Gremlin Mortafires (Hate those buggers), Oilers, Gremlin Knockers, Ice Cubes, Battlepods, FSC wheels.

In addition to the above, we are greeted with a new status; Slow. Slow functions similarly to stun, for the fact that it impedes your movement upon touching it. However, unlike stun, your Attack Speed is unaffected. Stun and Slow can stack, so be careful breaking the snow blocks around Greavers and Lumbers. Slow is a common stage hazard littering the arenas and the passageways in between.

My verdict is that this level is a solid event, giving the right balance of challenge and difficulty. You’re punished for being greedy, as you notice the arenas get more and more grueling as you press on. But you’re rewarded if you’re skillful (or blow enough sparks) to reach the summit. Many people don't seem to grasp the concept that this is meant to punish you for being greedy and playing past your skill cap, or what 'artificial difficulty' actually is. You want that? Go play Compound 42 in full Mad Bomber. People also seem to be blaming graphical lag or frameskips. I don't see much of those, and I'm running on a cruddy laptop.

I am a bit annoyed you need hundreds of the event materials, but given the long time frame, I’ll be certain to pick up the Candy Cane of Doom and the Egg Nog Artery Clogger. I loved the weapon reskins the moment I saw them. Even if they are just reskins, they're cleverly designed, and I think they'd make decent additions to my collection of shiny toys.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 07:06
#41
Battle-Knight-King's picture
Battle-Knight-King
longggg

i love winterfest but the update is too longg its like 30 minutes
but i hope its gonna be great

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 07:18
#42
The-Worst-Knight's picture
The-Worst-Knight
Take my -100 for a new

Take my -100 for a new mission.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 08:48
#43
Blazzberry's picture
Blazzberry
I have no mouth and I need to scream

You know what guys? Those yellow snowballs taste kind of funny...

I'm starting think it's not lemonade.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 09:06
#44
Halandin's picture
Halandin
Anyone seen any of those new

Anyone seen any of those new trinkets that have a chance of being in the boxes?

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 15:49
#45
Xtweeterx's picture
Xtweeterx
@Blazzberry

But... You have no mouth!

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 16:20
#46
Xtweeterx's picture
Xtweeterx
@Blazzberry

IASBDABKLASBFL DOUBLE POST

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 16:55
#47
Sirius-Voltbreaker's picture
Sirius-Voltbreaker
Dont listen to Healero

He just complains a lot. It was why we kicked him out of Brick Sqad.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 19:46
#48
Sonosuke's picture
Sonosuke
All shell will break loose.

Wow. I am thoroughly suprised no one has even mentioned the fact that there's a new wolver set even if it's a costume. @Whims If there's gonna be glop drops, I think I'll pass. Those beasts are hell, even my vanguard friend agrees they're annoying.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 19:50
#49
Bitsbee's picture
Bitsbee

I have to agree, how many Wolver-Themed Costumes are we going to keep getting? It's getting a bit ridiculous.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 08:48
#50
Artistbma's picture
Artistbma
400 tokens for a box. :(

400 tokens for a box. :(

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