I get on excited today because of the new winterfest update. i saw new weapons leaked on a tumblr page and when i got on i found out that the ones i like werent there and the missions to get the materials were impossible. So then i tried save winterfest which was also a pain to do and impossible.this update is simply here to take our sparks and laugh in the face of the community.... this is just sad.
This event is ruined.
Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:25
Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:47
#2
I blew 15 sparks on my first run on Elite because I didn't know what to bring or what to do.
Seeing how the game goes 'HERE, HAVE EVERYTHING', I only blew 2 sparks on my next run equipped with the knowledge of what I would be facing. The game makes you(r wallet) work hard for those 116 boxes. Alternatively, you can bum-rush the first room, which is incredibly easy, and get a safe 12 boxes without blowing any sparks.
Here's what to expect; FSC Wheels, pseudo stun, actual stun, Lumbers, Glop Drops, Menders, Torchblowers, Stalkers, Mortafires, Slush Puppies that respawn infinitely, Trojans, Oilers,
Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:43
#3
Wait, I just realized something...
A second event on a holiday event...
o_o
/me has a flashback to Apocrea.
/shout NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND I'M SO VERY CLOSE TO GETTING THEM BACK!
Wed, 12/11/2013 - 16:35
#4
Yea, I prefer Solo+Normal Mode
Becuase of the sparks, every dead player is acting like a jerk.
Then your carrying a dead weight around the room (plus making it harder to fight) and somehow expects you to revive them.
My Plan: Sit Back and do nothing. I have school work to do. Ill just return on the 25th and buy Frosty Items very cheaply. I'm not planning on wasting sparks and time for RESKINs.
OOO done it again.
EDIT: cuz some peeps think a bad team is the only thing that ruined Winterfest
1. Spark Shortage makes people give up half way
2. Map Design leads to ambush and spam corners. (monsters spamming from somewhere you cant see)
3. Grinding
4. Payout.
5. Not Worth It. playing couple of hours for little reward.
Wed, 12/11/2013 - 16:05
#5
@ canine-vladmir
So your blaming OOO on having a bad team? 0_o
I see a lot of people do this... why not get a good team? Not hard to do, find friends and/or guild mates and go out and tackle this new mission together and make jokes and just have fun with it. I just did and it was hard yes, but a bunch of fun. Great job Three Rings, this really is a nice new addition to Winterfest event.
Wed, 12/11/2013 - 16:18
#6
You cannot blame the team for
You cannot blame the team for protesting, you can only protest when there are issues with the mission or game that have nothing to do with you ,but with OOO. Read my post to see what I mean.
Thu, 12/12/2013 - 07:16
#7
Thu, 12/12/2013 - 10:21
#8
I was with Canine when we had
I was with Canine when we had a leech. He revived once we got to the party button in front of the treasure. Should've reported it.
Solo Normal is actually pretty relaxing. But beating it on elite with your guild is very rewarding. Ten days from now it might be "ugh derp grindy farmy no sparks left"
Thu, 12/12/2013 - 12:33
#9
@OP
You can't deny the cuteness of the reskins though...
Thu, 12/12/2013 - 12:48
#10
@OP
Just did a full run on normal with a guildie. It's incredibly difficult and the payout is almost nonexistent. Used up 13 sparks of life and have around 2-3 mats out of the 150 and 200 needed to show for it. OOO should be ashamed.
Thu, 12/12/2013 - 13:28
#11
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I gave on that worthless new mission for worthless reskins.
You guys seen how bad they screwed over Save Winterfest?
The new map is terrible versus the old one; it's so SLOW, and you get less time.
Thu, 12/12/2013 - 14:14
#12
gods ain't gonna help you, son.
all right then.
Grinchin assault is really difficult. I arrived at the first shelther of the summit. pretty good till then; enviroment hazards, a sort of clever level designing, but too many respawing monsters killed too much in the arenas (especially the last one I saw).
the " new" map on the save winterfest mission is a minor tweak that greately rose the difficulty of the level. ok we have MSI VH, but that still results in a MSD VH. tweak it a little, really. too many enemies just kill you or make you lose too much time. remember you have to stay alive for the whole mission to get all the tokens, since there is no shared loot.
Thu, 12/12/2013 - 14:35
#13
People please.
I ran it no deaths on normal, all you need is a DR, a shadow sword and a flourish. I can do it 2 sparks on elite, to the top. My first couple of runs were brutal, but with repetition you get better.
I'm sick of this community crying about content and that the game is too easy, and then whinging when they gave you exactly that.
Thu, 12/12/2013 - 15:05
#14
Perronius
Not everyone in the game wants more difficult content, and shoving it down the throats of those who don't is a jerk move on OOO's part, especially since this game attracts a lot of casual players.
Thu, 12/12/2013 - 15:10
#15
@Perronius
I understand where you're coming from, but can't we have a middle ground? In the current state of the game, almost everything is placed at the extremes. It's kind of like someone is driving at 15 km/h and someone asks them to speed up a bit so they accelerate to 150km/h. It's a bit of a stupid analogy but you get my point.
Thu, 12/12/2013 - 15:12
#16
The problem isn't that it's hard, or that it's too hard, it's that it is outright impossible not to take damage in some situations. That's not difficulty, that's just spamming too many enemies.
Thu, 12/12/2013 - 15:23
#17
That's completely correct
That's completely correct Draycos.
It's almost as cheesy as fake difficulty levels.
Also, that analogy is great.
Thu, 12/12/2013 - 16:10
#18
Again, I stress that repetition is key
I can think of 1 situation where it's near impossible to take damage (not impossible) and that's at the very end. Also, this mission is SPECIFICALLY listed as a danger mission. This mission is NOT for casual players, it is for those in the game who DO want more difficulty. Those who don't want to do it most certainly don't have to.
@neonblood
These aren't new weapons, just reskins. You aren't missing out on anything, so to say it's being shoved down your throat is a large stretch. Casual players shouldn't be playing this mission. Even at that, I'm not a great player by any stretch of the imagination, and I can manage it on 2 sparks on Elite with a smidge of practice.
@Draycos
It's hard, in certain areas. The area you are speaking of is artificial difficulty, like you are referring to. When we did that run, you made it through the first bit no deaths, and IIRC died once on the 2nd floor. The point is, it just takes a bit of practice.
To many of us, FSC was hellish in nature when we first did it. After a few runs, we could do it in our sleep, especially after finding the tips and tricks to make it easier. How is this any different?
Thu, 12/12/2013 - 16:29
#19
A lot of the difficult areas in the game (shadow lairs, danger missions) give you some leniency in the sense that you don't have to plan everything out perfectly; you usually have a good amount of time to react to situations as they come instead.
Meanwhile, G.Assault doesn't give you that. You have to use specific gear, specific strategies, and you have to know what everything is doing at all times or you're going to get insta-hit by a Stalker or spawn-dashed by a Greaver.
In the final area, you have to be close to the boss in order to keep the mender away after you damage it. Doing that puts you in a situation where you have double-explosion artillery that punishes you if you don't sit still, thwackers that punish you for standing still, quick/armor ignoring/invisible stalkers, rocket puppies that one-shot you if you're not standing next to them or your shield isn't topped off, a fire-bar the boss uses to further corral you to specific spots, and a damage buff that knocks you back into spike-blocks or enemies that will now two-shot you.
I guarantee that unless you're abusing the hell out of Maskeraith's invisiblity, you will get hit somehow.
Thu, 12/12/2013 - 17:19
#20
Its certainly difficult, but that's a good thing, isn't it? Games should be "tough as nails" at times.
Thu, 12/12/2013 - 17:50
#21
Meanwhile, G.Assault doesn't give you that. You have to use specific gear, specific strategies, and you have to know what everything is doing at all times or you're going to get insta-hit by a Stalker or spawn-dashed by a Greaver.
And Firestorm Citadel doesn't stop you dead in your tracks if you don't have a Blitz Needle equipped?
Fri, 12/13/2013 - 06:32
#22
@HEX
Actually, no. I often run FSC without Blitz or Shiver, because it's too easy that way. I'd rather use a Callahan, and do it that way, for giggles. A Valiance is another fun way, and recently, we did Vana with Nitronomes. So no, it really doesn't.
As I've said 3 times in this thread now, everything comes down to repetition. Spawn points, enemy behavior, it is all static. Once you learn it all, the game gets easier.
Fri, 12/13/2013 - 06:56
#23
spend 1 day and craft all
spend 1 day and craft all normal version of that weapons
or
lost tons of spark ,spend tons of hours(days) and craft same(just reskined) weapons
my choose - .i.. OOO
p.s. always all *events* in all games meant *fun*, this event not fun !! i dont know when *events* start to looks like a *hard job*, i miss that period >_<
Fri, 12/13/2013 - 07:55
#24
Give me a Monster Pocket that is one of those Baby Grems.
I want one forever \o3o/
Fri, 12/13/2013 - 08:21
#25
"this event not *fun*"
To each their own- we've got the whole thing with the running back and forth, and new pick ups as well. You could do one of those? And the new lockdown map from last year was a nice addition, sort of. I'd much rather this than another easy grinding for creep cakes/doohickeys/punkin royalty/black kats.
yup but was fun too se 3 guys wasting 40 sparks and dont manage to kill the boss