i've been thinking... there are literally no sparks spawning from chest any more so how about this. tokens for sparks of life. leave your thoughts here.
tokens for sol
Fri, 12/13/2013 - 15:40
Fri, 12/13/2013 - 16:49
#2
Dere's one problem with your conversion, Thunder.
50 tokens can buy a 4* trinket, which can be vendored for 3500 crowns, which is more than an SoL costs from current Energy costs.
Fri, 12/13/2013 - 17:03
#3
gods ain't gonna help you, son.
then somewhere between 50 and 20.
Fri, 12/13/2013 - 19:11
#4
-1
Going to have to disagree on this. Sparks are still really common
Here's a good way to farm them:
There's this beautiful thing called the Arcade.
And in my experience, it drops Sparks and Orbs much more commonly than missions do.
This of course may just be speculation.
Maybe I'm just paranoid.
But I'm 99% sure they have higher drop rates in the Arcade.
And if they don't, then the Arcade is just hella faster.
Sat, 12/14/2013 - 09:44
#5
i'd leave the ratio of the
i'd leave the ratio of the tokens : sparks to OOO but what is important is that the idea gets implemented
Sat, 12/14/2013 - 12:21
#6
gods ain't gonna help you, son.
that's not exactly how you improve a suggestion; the more details you discuss, the better the suggestion is, this obviously requires detail to be discussed.
in the end, it's OOO implementing everything so the token:spark ratio is always up to OOO, but player opinion is important in these things, so it's better saying.
Mon, 12/16/2013 - 11:06
#7
+1
Let's see the problem here:
OOO reduced the droprates of sparks because "everyone" plays elite and gets a lot of them. I'm sure that there was a player that got like 5 from one level and posted that screenshot somewhere. I don't know how OOO's droprate works but it's bugged. There are days/weeks where you are "cursed" and get like no drops at all, then days/weeks when it's "normal", and then there are days when you are "super lucky"(i've gotten 4 orbs from one jelly run once, very lucky, but NO OOO, DON'T NERF IT MORE. I never got a orb in the last past weeks.)
The same thing happened with sparks, exept that not many people care about it since:
Vanguards got ~50 Sparks from the Update, and know every enemy of the game.
New players don't get that many starting sparks and aren't that good in the game.
Less droprate doesn't allow new players to get many sparks back, so they will most likely run out of sparks.
@Dibsville
As far as I know, orbs and sparks have the same droprate/chance on arcade and missions.
Mon, 12/16/2013 - 11:14
#8
Okay.
To be clear, yesterday before the Ruby Sun Gate was removed and replaced by the new Snarbolax gate, I constantly ran Tier 3.
I got 4 Eternals, and 7 Sparks.
In a whopping two hours.
If you're seriously having trouble getting Sparks, just try running the Arcade 3 or 4 times. You should get ~2 Sparks per run.
Mon, 12/16/2013 - 11:24
#9
^
Since the SoL rate adjustment, I've found 5, FIVE sparks. I do arcade runs all the time, mostly on the Vana gates (I'm a Defender, I don't have the shortcut to FSC), and always on Elite.
And 2 Orbs. "Cursed" is not enough to describe my luck.
Mon, 12/16/2013 - 11:59
#10
...
Don't do boss runs.
In my experience, boss gates are terrible for Orbs/Sparks.
Do the regular Arcade FFS.
The game isn't centred around Vana.
EDIT: *The game isn't centred around Vana anymore.
Mon, 12/16/2013 - 12:47
#11
@Dibsville
Original Comment got deleted because the forum didn't send it for some reason, so i'll try to remember as much as possible of my old post:
Let's compare Arcade runs with Boss/Mission runs:
Arcade:
Random Levels(Aurora Isles/other special levels)
Compounds
Waiting for Gates
Random Monsters(Slimes in candlestick, Slimes and Gun Puppies in that 8 turret room(not danger room), slimes/lumbers/gun puppies in wolver den)
Random Crown Payout
Mission:
Set Crown Payout
Set Levels
Set Enemies
Boss Tokens=extra gear or money
I used to have 50 Sparks, then around 50-60. Then apocrea came and my sparks dropped down to 20-30. After that I finally got my 5* gear and continued the missions. I ran out of sparks in the gauntlet mission. Now I have around 10 and can't build up again. I'm trying to get the jack froster(snowman bomb), but grinchlin assault is a hard level, I don't have the right gear for it, not skilled enough, and I also don't have many sparks, so I probably won't be able to get that.
Mon, 12/16/2013 - 12:51
#12
Your point?
1. Go to Copper Pawn Gate, Tier 3, Elite
2. Go through to the core
3. Get a few Sparks from the run (depending on your luck, you could get one or two)
4. If you think you have enough, do Grinchlin Assault
5. If you don't think you have enough Sparks for step 4, go back to step one
6. Repeat until you have enough Mats
This obviously won't work as the event will probably end before you could get anything doing this, but it's better than nothing, eh?
Mon, 12/16/2013 - 23:11
#13
EDIT: *The game isn't centred around Vana anymore.
It still is to me, it has the best crown payout of all the levels I can visit.
Do the regular Arcade FFS.
-I do arcade runs all the time
There's a whole Stratum before reaching FSC. I also do T2 runs looking for Orbs. My luck is SO horrible that I found 1 Orb in Stratum 4... and it was an ETERNAL orb.
Tue, 12/17/2013 - 00:08
#14
EDIT: *The game isn't centred around Vana anymore.
It still is to me, it has the best crown payout of all the levels I can visit.
Well, sparks & orbs, or crowns. Your choice.
Remember that Eternal OoA are technically worth as much as 24,000 crowns, Elites 12,000, and SoLs 1,800.
Tue, 12/17/2013 - 01:28
#15
Eternals are useless to me, as I'm a Defender (4* limit). If they were unbound it would be a different story...
I just finished a T3 run [Copper Pawn], no orbs or sparks.
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Back to the topic, I'd like to get some SoLs with a more stable currency. The CE market is scary.
Tue, 12/17/2013 - 02:04
#16
I just finished a T3 run [Copper Pawn], no orbs or sparks.
That's very nondescriptive. Upload a screenshot of your gatemap when you reach the core next time.
Tue, 12/17/2013 - 06:10
#17
I make you black, bluue and red all over
Eternals are useless to me, as I'm a Defender (4* limit).
Ever heard of saving for later? Because you WILL need a lot of them later. Just to beat the 5* HoH you need 12 orbs. You get ~3 free ones from missions I think. Then there is the off chance that you actually want more than one set of armor.
Tue, 12/17/2013 - 19:16
#18
^
I have 19 Eternals, and I'm not going to be 5* any time soon. No, is not because the Radiants problem, it's because I want.
I also want to apologize to the T1-T2 players, all our arguments always end with "do T3 Elite Arcade", something they might not be able to do.
Tue, 12/17/2013 - 20:49
#19
I did Copper Pawn with a
I did Copper Pawn with a guildie yesterday, so you can even ask her whether I'm telling the truth.
I got 5 Sparks, and two orbs (both Eternals)
She got about 7 sparks (don't remember the exact amount), and she got 3 Advanced Orbs, and an Eternal.
This happened in about 4 or 5 hours.
And one stratum isn't going to give you jack. Do a full run, and stop running Vana all the time. Do the Snarbolax gate. And don't base your luck off of one run.
Wed, 12/18/2013 - 01:15
#20
Just finished another run. T3 Pawn gate.
Emerald axis - Jade tangle - Perimeter Promenade II - Power complex
Basil (found Plasma capacitor c:)
Jelly Farm II - Blast furnace - Clockworks - Cooling chamber - Treasure vault
12 Radiants, no Orbs nor Sparks. Random knight neither got OoA/SoL.
And it's not "one run", it's been like this since the rate change. Let's just admit it, RNG hates me :c
This happened in about 4 or 5 hours.
Unluckily I can't play that long...
I have an idea, instead of measuring in "tier runs", tell me how many levels did you do this week (F7 - Event hub). I'll try to reach that number.
Wed, 12/18/2013 - 02:33
#21
still -1
I won't be able to get on this week, but if I had to guess, I'd say we completed a full gate or so (starting at D18) per hour. Even at an average rate, we can get 2-3 sparks every couple hours. We also include people on our runs that get constant sparks as well, so I know it's not just us. I apologise if it isn't working for you, as it works fine for both me and the many people that do runs with me. (You could even come along with us and see). From my experience, I'm saying -1 to the idea, though.
Thu, 12/19/2013 - 07:35
#22
You know what I would like?
Trading tokens for radiant fire crystals.
I've got enough sparks (even after grinchlin assault).
Radiants? Not so much.
what tokens? how many of them?
to all that want to say "just grind more or lower difficulty or learn 2 play", no, really, I have 4 sparks and I would like to have some more use for these primal sparks other than the +30k cr every halley comet passing by.
if it's Primal/Forge/Grim sparks, sure. 50 tokens or so should do.