Spiral Knights - Energy Problem

Energy Problem

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Wed, 05/25/2011 - 18:44

Firefistace

Everyone knows that half of the population in Spiral Knights is b****ing about energy.

I have thought of a solution to that problem.

Why doesn't OOO just make it so without energy you can still run dungeons but not get any crowns or energy and not be able to buy anything from vendors (you would still be able to get vitapods and health flasks and status flasks but no crystals). Even with this on i would still be swayed to buy energy to upgrade my charecter.
Pretty simple but thats just about it.

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 18:56

Madadder

then whats the point of

then whats the point of dungeon crawling?

i dont run JK for nothing no reward.... no point

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 18:57

Firefistace

The point is you can still

The point is you can still play without waiting a day being bored, dont you get any fun out of beating JK? dont you want to have more fun?

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 20:37

Madadder

no i like the feeling i get

no i like the feeling i get for being REWARDED for killing JK

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 21:02

MedicDROID

Legacy Username

Other Activities?

PLEASE for the love of god give us something else to do so i dont shoot myself when i dont have energy.
Perhaps you could add some kind of sparring arena where players battle each other and wager crowns or energy for a prize.
Or even nothing at all, maybe just sparring for fun to stay busy while the mist energy replenishes.
it sounds genius to me. and itd give me something to do when i dont have energy to explore the dungeons. i dunno.

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 00:28

Betrael

You could always get a job,

You could always get a job, or significant other to help pass the time between recharges, since it takes 22 hours you might be able to consider this a daily game anyways.

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 13:30

Grittle

check my solution

http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/9561 just check it

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 16:11

Firefistace

Dogbob i read your forum

Dogbob i read your forum thing but the problem with is OOO has no reason to implement that in the game because it doesn't bring in any money and brings less money actually. And to betrael 90% of the people who play this game are 12-15 year olds that CAN'T get a full time job and a girlfriend (at least in 6-7 grade) is a bit rare, its hard for people who like games to get girlfriends in the first place. If they do get a girlfriend its another girl who likes games causing the people to play even MORE. the last 10% are people over 16 and those people have no life for still playing games.

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 17:39

Ossomehr

Well...

I have a job AND a girlfriend and I'm over 16, and since apparently there are only two types of people who play this game, does that mean I don't actually play this game?

Yes, I must say that having a life does help for the times in between. On off days, though, I see where the problem is. Something to do without energy would definitely be a welcome addition. Perhaps maybe not REWARDLESS, but less rewarding? Maybe even have a little area (1-3 dungeons with only a handful [5-10] floors?) that is free to play, but only gives a fraction of the heat/crowns that regular dungeons have. A small enough reward that unless you grind it all day you won't really gain enough that it's a suitable replacement for regular dungeons.

Also, lowering crafting energy fees and/or CE prices wouldn't be bad, either.

Thu, 05/26/2011 - 19:22

Jkflat76

Legacy Username

Here's an idea

They could just reduce the time of Mist Energy to replenish. Say, from 22 hours, to 10 hours? So it wouldn't kill the gameplay too bad, or the need for Crystal Energy. Doing the math, 1 Hour of waiting would yield 10 Mist Energy, 1 Mist Energy for every 6 minutes. If you ask me, this would probably have the effect of making Crystal Energy to Crown and Crown to Crystal Energy, exchange rate probably be alot better, I'm no economist on that so I don't know for sure if the Mist Energy and Crystal Energy are linked, but seriously, if they just reduced the time from 22 hours to 10 hours, it'd make the wait less painful. Seriously, 10 Hours isn't a short amount of time by any means, but it sure beats 22 hours right? Give a good hour of messing around in the auction house, and you could run a dungeon level or just take your time while you run dungeons so it'd charge while you play.

Onto the point of having something to do in the meantime while your Mist Energy recharges...

I think PvP, could be added as another way to kill time for Mist Energy recharge too. Put an Arena in, duel players, maybe spice it up with alittle bit of Crown or Crystal Energy bets? Heck, maybe give the Advanced Training Ground a use and have it yield a very small, Heat and Crown gain? Not enough to break the use of dungeons mind you, but at least it would give us something to do. Have the Knight whose at the desk reward you repeatedly for completing the little training exercises, with a little Heat, and some pocket change of Crowns, or turn the Advanced Training Ground into a little practice dungeon that yield very little Crowns and Heat? Just suggestions to how they could make the wait time, funner when it comes to Mist Energy. As far as Crystal Energy goes, there's not much to say. It's the premium currency, what do you expect? I think the main change this game needs is to shorten the Mist Energy replenish time, and an adjustment to the crafting costs wouldn't hurt. By "Adjustment" I mean lowering them. ;D

This is all merely my opinion on the topic of Energy altogether, so I may not be right on what the game "needs". This game is awesome, I just feel saddened when my Mist Energy runs out, Lol. Oh well, that's why I have the Xbox 360 and a job right?

Fri, 05/27/2011 - 13:18

#10

Firefistace

I agree on the idea of bets

I agree on the idea of bets on PVP for crystal energy and crowns, but there are some problems with your other sugesstions. You should always assume companies only care about money. SO there is no point for OOO to reduce crafting costs or mist energy regen because it will make them lose a decent amount of money. What im saying is that it wont hurt or very little to their profits if they allow players to still run dungeons without energy and not get any heat or crowns. Personally i woudnt care if i didnt get a reward as long as i could play as long as i want.

Sat, 05/28/2011 - 07:05

#11

Firefistace

bump =)

Sat, 05/28/2011 - 12:01

#12

Firefistace

OOO should implament somthing

OOO should implament somthing we could do while no energy open to more suggestions

Sat, 05/28/2011 - 12:07

#13

Madadder

quit trying to keep this

quit trying to keep this thread alive

Sat, 05/28/2011 - 16:33

#14

Tomori

i agree there need to be

i agree there need to be something else to do other then sit around this is getting boring and making alot of people want to game other places
as for monkeyman get over it people dont like it deal with the facts of it being brought up

Sat, 05/28/2011 - 17:57

#15

Pawn

Not to be rude

This is going to sound condescending but it isn't meant to be.

A lot of people think wagers on PvP is a good idea, but if you are having trouble keeping enough CE to play regularly then you will most likely (definitely) be losing your crowns and CE if you are betting them in PvP. The last thing you need is a way to lose more CE without even getting to play the game you are already complaining about not getting to play.

If you want something to do when out of CE (ME) then learn to use the AH. It is a ton of fun. I log in 3-5 times a day just to see my new mail.
Personally i've made the decision that i am not gonna help people learn to use the AH. It's more competition for me, and i don't really need it. More importantly, it's easy to figure out. When your desire to play becomes as great as you claim it to be, you will learn to profit from the AH and play as much as you want.

i will help you this way though. If you feel like you don't get to play enough, walk through haven and send everybody you see (not noobs, everyone in 2* and better gear) friend invites. When you play, always join a friend, never join below floor 4 (in t1) or floor14 (in t2) unless you are specifically wanting to see basil. Otherwise only play the 2nd half of tiers.

If you don't do the above 2 paragraphs, then you really don't want to play more, so quit posting about wanting to play more. If you do the above to paragraphs you can play as much as you want, and you won't need to post about wanting to play more.

Good luck (hint: it takes no luck).

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 16:43

#16

Firefistace

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 20:43

#17

Raul

I got a better idea, stfu and

I got a better idea, stfu and bump

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 04:27

#18

Xhosant

Legacy Username

The pvp point is great, it

The pvp point is great, it needs to be implemented either way.

Also, what"s the gain of getting in a floor for free and getting nothing out of it? That you just reached the next floor for free. Cross the first half of a tier for nothing, given and taken, and start spending at the real income zone.

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 10:56

#19

cloudsymph

Legacy Username

what's the point of playing

what's the point of playing with no reward? if you are getting bored during the day it means you should pick up a new hobby or something.

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