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Mon, 01/06/2014 - 13:17
Awkster's picture
Awkster

The forge and alchemy orbs. These 2 things will kill spiral knights (You here me OOO?!) unless OOO changes, heres why:
1. The forge
This one is pretty obvious having to grind a ****ton to get fire crystals or spend some $ on them. If OOO would just make them less rare of drops this could be fixed. I know people who aren't even going to get 5* gear because of the forge. Just make them less uncommon as drops and this could be fixed.
It costs 72,000 crowns to get 5* gear if all forging is successful (minimum crystals) and please make fire crystals that were found in clockworks trad-able.

2. The alchemy orbs
These are a pain to get and you only get like 8 of each type from every rank mission completed. Just make the drop rate higher and that one will be pretty well fixed as well.

So I ask you all to protest if you'd like to agree with this petition reply and have the following in your reply: "Signed, (your name)".
Spiral knights could die if we don't do anything.
Amount of Signatures so far: 5

Mon, 01/06/2014 - 13:26
#1
Awkster's picture
Awkster
Obviously

Signed, Awkster

Mon, 01/06/2014 - 13:27
#2
Krazzyhapps's picture
Krazzyhapps
I agree

I do agree about the Alchemy orbs and Fire Crystals maybe just tone down the Rarity for Alchemy Orbs a bit and it would make almost EVERYBODY happy. I do not wanna see this game die. It is beautiful and downright gorgous and dont want it to go or lose its player base.
Signed - Krazzyhapps
Steam Name - [][] Happ's

Mon, 01/06/2014 - 13:30
#3
Skayeth's picture
Skayeth
/laugh

I honestly don't think this will work, and I want these fixed so...

Signed,
Annilaton the "Community Lowering Guilds" Hater

Mon, 01/06/2014 - 13:50
#4
Rolhn
Aye

I agree with the others but what I really want changed is the forge and level up system, spending my energy to quickly get what I want is not something games should be doing.

Signed, Rolhn "The Goblin Knight"

Mon, 01/06/2014 - 13:58
#5
Lanieu's picture
Lanieu
1. I hate the forge with all

1. I hate the forge with all my might. It is useless. Old system worked 200% better.

2. Alchemy Orbs is honestly a better system in-game currency wise for a player. It is the same CE costs and orbs can be found.

3. I think we should all have at least a 25 Mist tank that regenerates like old mist did. Where did all the mist go? Cradle stopped giving off energy.

So, partially signed, Lanny.

Mon, 01/06/2014 - 14:07
#6
Shul
No

The only change that makes sense here is the Forge/Fire crystals change. Radiant Fire Crystals are disproportionately hard to get and the change from the previous state was poorly implemented. If you look at all of the progression/loot systems in the game already the obvious choice would have been to make Radiant Fire Crystals drop from Stratum 6 rather than just from depth 28. It makes zero sense to go from being able to forge up your 4* weapons easily and readily to having to do a full clockworks run 10-20 times just to forge your 5* weapon once. I've gone from 19-29 on Elite 3 times in a row without a single Radiant dropping.

The Alchemy orbs are absolutely fine the way they are. You're not supposed to be able to craft everything you want from just orb drops. Remember it used to cost energy to craft your gear. Orbs were made to replace energy in crafting. It doesn't mean just because you've gone through the clockworks a couple of times you should be able to craft all your 3-5* gear. An orb drop is like getting free energy. Besides, you can still craft all your stuff by getting crowns > buying energy > buying orbs. It's not like they've taken anything away from the way the game has always been.

Mist/Elevator. Again, you are expecting to be able to do everything for free. Online games are there to provide entertainment and make money. There's a balance between the two. If you want to be able to do everything and pay nothing, the game cannot be sustained. Yes, you used to be able to do use mist to get a discount on energy costs, but now you get elevators for free and get as many crowns/energy as your time allows. It's a trade off.

There are changes that need to be brought to the attention of OOO such as the forging system. However most of the time it gets muddled up with unnecessary complaints that dilute the argument.

Mon, 01/06/2014 - 14:09
#7
Launcel's picture
Launcel
Mist?!? Seriously?!

Not to be rude but NO, just no. Mist and elevator costs is what got most new players quit the game and OOO knew that.

Mon, 01/06/2014 - 14:22
#8
Whimsicality's picture
Whimsicality
lol, no

Mist is outdated, and drives away more new players than this current system.

Orbs are too common, there was no choice back then. Be thankful you have a chance for 1/3rd of 800 CE to even drop for free in the first place.

The Forge can use some tweaks which are going to come relatively soon, but if you're so impatient, I know of a life hack that's better suited for this situation.

Mon, 01/06/2014 - 14:20
#9
Awkster's picture
Awkster
Ignore the top 3 posts

I took the part about mist out

Mon, 01/06/2014 - 14:19
#10
Clown-Nine's picture
Clown-Nine
The world these days.

"You here me OOO?!"

/sigh

Mon, 01/06/2014 - 14:21
#11
Fangel's picture
Fangel
Okay, I'll throw you other solutions

All the systems you've listed have fixes.
Crystal drop rates are abundant on elite difficulty, but it requires you to play for a while, or just run the arcade in the appropriate stratum(s).

Orbs are a privilege, not a right. Before they were added, you crafted items for the same cost in energy, just now you can get them free.

The speed thing is an issue - players are pushed through the game too fast so when they hit a progress wall, they feel stuck. The solution to this is to make players move slower through the missions. In one of Fehzor's threads in the suggestion forum, they suggest the arcade have something to do with the rank progression. This would make players move slower through the ranks, and let them accumulate wealth so they can buy orbs to progress when the time comes.

This petition probably won't work, primarily because the solutions aren't considering game progression balance. If you are playing on normal difficulty, try bumping it up - you'll find many more rarities!

Mon, 01/06/2014 - 14:33
#12
Fulldflls's picture
Fulldflls
?

What about balancing weapons?

Mon, 01/06/2014 - 15:52
#13
Xtweeterx's picture
Xtweeterx

About the forge, just dump in max all the time unless it's a 5* thing.

Also do elite runs for orbs n' stuff.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 00:48
#14
Aplauses's picture
Aplauses
-2

The one who make a petition to increase orb drop rate for a dull reason is not even worth signing into.

You here me OOO?!
Three Rings is not here to read your petition, unfortunately.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 06:34
#15
Thunder-The-Bright's picture
Thunder-The-Bright
gods ain't gonna help you, son.

nobody did it till now? ah well.
petition?
Grimranger laughs.

that being said:
orbs are not to be found to craft your gear for free. you are supposed to buy them a lot.
the only issue about crystals are radiants, which is not a problem with the forge but with drop rates.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 07:03
#16
Dragneel-Wiki's picture
Dragneel-Wiki

We all did it the hard way back before, thousands of CE to craft 5* gear, why would you be an exception? Pftt, you already have the chance to get them for free, you want it be free all the way?

Oooooooooooooooooooook...

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