Spiral Knights - I'm sick of lockdown w/ team-based battles and Blast Network

I'm sick of lockdown w/ team-based battles and Blast Network

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Thu, 01/09/2014 - 20:39

Flaame

I seriously would like a PvP mode where it's an all-out free-for-all and nothing team-based.

Similar to Blast Network but involving you using your own gear with your shield included. I seriously don't want to be boosting around, guarding other people (With healing at that), or being that recon guy that's invisible to another team. I want a fair all-out brawl using gear shields even if they have status modifiers on them (BTB, Swiftstrike, etc.) and being able to fully utilize battle sprites in PvP (Optional).

Perhaps a PvE environment functioning on a PvP level is what I want to say? I'm not too sure.

I see it suggested a number of times and I'm seriously wondering why people don't like this idea. It would resolve the persistent 1v1 issue that many people like to do in lockdown. One of them is going to die by a teammates hand. It's only inevitable. I am here to play a game as intended. If that considers me a bad player, well how do you propose we stop it? Other knights do it too!

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 21:13

Epic-Samurot

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q2_wtqnRR8k. ? That would be unbalanced....

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 22:14

Vesperaldus

Unless it was like Blast

Unless it was like Blast Network where they provide the gear. Basically everyone would get the same loadout.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 00:08

Flaame

@Epic-Samurot: Why compare to

@Epic-Samurot:
Why compare to that video? That video is old and outdated and similar to what I'm thinking.
OOO has already made it so you cannot one-hit KO a fellow knight in PvP (Lockdown). Even still, I'm sure that damage would be transferable over to a new PvP free-for-all mode.
Do you still think it's unbalanced? If so, why?

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 04:14

Aplauses

My opinion.

Player A chase Player B. (No msi)
It will become endless. Of course you will say Player A will use antigua or something but that will hinder his movement and led Player B run away.

That's why we have Lockdown.

Like to chase faster? Use Striker

Don't like to be chased? Use Recon

Want to support your team? Use Guardian.

And it is more entertaining.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 05:34

Sandwich-Potato

OOO has already made it so you cannot one-hit KO a fellow knight in PvP (Lockdown)

Brandish. Charge. Chaos. Next.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 07:27

Krakob

Ehm, I've been able to take people out in one Acheron hit. First one from the combo, even. Of course, we're talking DI Max vs something like Dusker Striker with no trinkets or health bonuses from heat. But it's possible and that's the point.

I don't think Super Brawl would be the best thing for SK. It was just not a well made game in comparison to LD, which is probably why it was removed. Besides, nothing would make the community worse than a FFA game in which killing others is the only thing that matters. I'm certain this would spawn more hate than LD already does.
If anything, I'd like to see something like CTF, KotH, and such standard multiplayer vs modes. The important thing is that teamwork should be a part of it and it shouldn't be too hard to get into because of others roflstomping your butt with OP crap like 5* weapons and tryhard pendants. There's another argument against Super Brawl and pro team games.
In LD, mr Dusker trying to get his Boltbrand can always get lucky and get on the team with that Polaris spammin' Vanguard with 45k prestige but in FFA, he's royally screwed and it'll take him roughly 50% more games to get his recipe, assuming he wins 50% of LD games and 0% of FFA games.
Mr Dusker will never touch FFA knowing that LD is plain faster for getting Boltbrand and he can help by using his class abilities or capping, even if he has a hard time scoring 500 damage in LD.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 10:21

Flaame

@Sandwich-Potato Brandish.

@Sandwich-Potato
Brandish. Charge. Chaos. Next.

Let me guess, that Shockburst Brandish shocks and kills you in one hit, right? This is a special case as the shock tics take away from the invulnerability frames.

Well, if you're killing a Dusker in one hit, that is to be expected if you're swinging an Archeron at them in Tier 3 lockdown, isn't it? That Dusker shouldn't be in Tier 3 Lockdown to begin with as his Defenses don't match up with the correct Tier anyways.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 15:11

Sandwich-Potato

The Shockburst Brandish also immobolizes you, allowing the said Brandish troll to swoop in with a toothpick. Same with a Glacius. A Combuster would OHKO just about anything, except for maybe a person with optimization for health and elemental defense and fire only.

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 00:52

Ding-Dong-Die

OOO has already made it so

OOO has already made it so you cannot one-hit KO a fellow knight in PvP (Lockdown)

I got killed by the first hit of the Gran Faust in 1 hit.

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