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A list of things that are unable to hurt the battlepods in the Seerus fight

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Sat, 01/11/2014 - 02:24
Zeddy's picture
Zeddy

Not a suggestion toipic. Not a bug report topic. Just a reference topic for when you want to fight Seerus and you're not sure what gear, should you decide to bring it, will gimp you in the fight. Please contribute.

  • Hammer dash.
  • Brandish explosions.
  • Ghost swings on cutters.
  • Catalyzer charges.
  • Dark Retribution orbs.
  • Shard bomb multihitting. (It's kind of possible, but shard bombs are very bad against the pods.)
  • All mist bombs.
  • Barrier pickups.
  • Seraphinx laser.
  • Drakon firestorm, explosive included.
  • Maskeraith quills.
  • Cannot remember if maskeraith's hexing haze works.

Edit:
Not all of these also apply to Big Iron in GitM. I know for a fact DR won't work. Shard bombs are a nightmare too, but that's nothing new.

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 03:18
#1
Thunder-The-Bright's picture
Thunder-The-Bright
gods ain't gonna help you, son.

so I can't use my DVS effectivly in the boss of OCH? great, what am I gonna bring?

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 03:46
#2
Mystrian's picture
Mystrian
Don't really have all that good info here.

I though hammer dash works point blank? Hexing haze woks, but the rest I don't I have information on as I have not tested those yet.

Also, the wiki edits section might be a good place to put this, but it is your topic.

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 05:23
#3
Masterreeve's picture
Masterreeve
I make you black, bluue and red all over

Nope, as Zeddy said you can't use hammer dash. I think the reason is something along the lines of for the dash to deal damage, you have to occupy the same tile as the affected monster. As battle pods take up the hole tile, cannot move and count as walls for collision purposes, the dash won't work. This is different for things like stationary Gun Puppies, as I don't think they take up the entire tile (you can half way be on the same tile as them, which allows the dash to work). They also don't count as walls for collision.

I could be wrong, but I also think that things like Antigua line eagles / Sealed Sword line charge projectiles do not pass through the pods and simple explode once they touch it.

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 06:41
#4
Mystrian's picture
Mystrian

Masterreeve posted (#3):
"I think the reason is something along the lines of for the dash to deal damage, you have to occupy the same tile as the affected monster. As battle pods take up the hole tile, cannot move and count as walls for collision purposes, the dash won't work. This is different for things like stationary Gun Puppies, as I don't think they take up the entire tile (you can half way be on the same tile as them, which allows the dash to work)."

I did not know that. Thanks Masterreeve!

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 07:27
#5
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Bopp
at risk of going off-topic

I don't want to derail the thread, but here's a quick question: You can't hammer-dash the Roarmulus Twins either, can you?

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 07:59
#6
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Blazzberry
I have no mouth and I need to scream

Thanks for the heads up, Zeddy. Now I know to full out bring my alchs for some 360 noscopes.

Just kidding. Real men use pepperbox on battlepods.

(Inb4youknowwhojustlooksatthisthreadthencomplainsaboutsomeonehelpingratherthanmakinguselessirrelevantthreadslikehimselfthenwonderswhytheworldisagainsthim)

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 09:34
#7
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Bitsbee

Woah, woah, wait.

You saying Dark Retribution doesn't hurt it? Is this recently, because I'm pretty sure I've always used DR against Seerus & the orbs dealt damage.

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 10:12
#8
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Fangel
Um...

In the boss fight itself, the hammer dash and brandish charge explosions will work on the middle battlepod. The outer ones are the finicky ones.
And are you sure about the seraphynx laser VS the Big Iron? I like to use it for reducing defense of the boss when its shields go down, and I at least think that works. Pretty sure the hammer dash works there too.

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 10:24
#9
Skayeth's picture
Skayeth
Have you

Have you even watched Zeddy's vid about his Neutralizer vs the Big Iron? Charge up a few times... and BAM!

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 12:40
#10
Xahria's picture
Xahria
Delicious Devil dr

Are you sure the Dark Retribution orbs don't what so ever effect the battlepods health? Since the last time i went on a Crimson run it worked fine for me..

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 12:52
#11
Skyguarder's picture
Skyguarder

"Hammer dash."

I'm pretty sure that I was able to defeat a battle pod with a hammer dash up close. (I think)

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 13:08
#12
Skepticraven's picture
Skepticraven
Hrm...

A list of things that are unable to hurt the battlepods in the Seerus fight

Just a reference topic for when you want to fight Seerus and you're not sure what gear, should you decide to bring it, will gimp you in the fight.

Unsure if list is of weapons unable to damage, or just not effective against battlepods.
Either way, I think this should be in the arsenal.
Also, judging by the list, its both. Perhaps you should also clear that up.
Brandish explosions can hit, but just as difficult to aim as shard bombs (and would trouble the generic brandish charge spammer).

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 14:08
#13
Wavara's picture
Wavara

"Barrier pickups."

"All of these also apply to battlepod in GitM."
I always used barriers against the battlepods, even the Big Iron, and they DO damage. Just have to time my moves to avoid the invicitinks.

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 16:32
#14
Modicu's picture
Modicu
Hammer dashes.

Nope, as Zeddy said you can't use hammer dash. I think the reason is something along the lines of for the dash to deal damage, you have to occupy the same tile as the affected monster. As battle pods take up the hole tile, cannot move and count as walls for collision purposes, the dash won't work. This is different for things like stationary Gun Puppies, as I don't think they take up the entire tile (you can half way be on the same tile as them, which allows the dash to work). They also don't count as walls for collision.

Strange... Big Iron is completely vulnerable to hammer dashes. I use the Warmaster Rocket Hammer a lot on that mission, as it effectively shreds through the battlepod with ease, as well as the other monsters.

Also, thanks for the news on all this, Zeddy. My friend and I were both wondering why my Dread Venom Striker and her Wild Hunting Blade weren't being as effective as we had hoped against those battlepods.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 11:08
#15
Zeddy's picture
Zeddy

This is some interesting info. Thanks, thread!

@Bopp

I believe not, yes. Roarmulus has a slightly different set of thing they are immune to. DR will work but shards will not, for instance.

@Bitsbee

DR's orbs will work against Seerus, but not the battlepods. At least, that was the case last time I checked. Noone would be happier than me if they finally fixed that.

@Fangel

Interesting. Will DR work against the middle pod as well?

I did not test the laser against Big Iron, as I kind of assumed they were the same deal. I'm pretty sure DR didn't work on Iron and that's the reason behind my assumption.

I will make amends to the original post.

Thu, 01/16/2014 - 00:36
#16
Wavara's picture
Wavara

Just went through GitM. Blazebrand charges do damage the Big Iron.

What picked up my attention was the kind damage. It was NEUTRAL damage, instead of strong. Now I'm MORE confused D:

Thu, 01/16/2014 - 00:41
#17
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Rihzome
That is becuase battlepods,

That is becuase battlepods, while classed as Constructs, are neutral to all damage. That's why a Blitz is the one weapon to rule them all when facing off against one.

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