Hello everyone! This is my first post here. All I wanted to get from this post is your opinion on whether should I try my luck on applying UV on my Silent Nightblade OR just buy a Brandish/Nightblade from the AH. That is all. Thanks to anyone who would give out their opinion!
To try my luck at UV or..
Fri, 01/17/2014 - 03:58
Fri, 01/17/2014 - 07:08
#2
@Scirio
I think his question was whether it would be easier/cheaper to roll UVs or to simply buy UVed gear from AH.
Anyways, the short answer is that buying UVed gear from AH is far more reliable (and can save you a lot of money in the long run). One can spend a million crowns trying to roll for a specific UV and STILL have a chance of not getting it. Whereas for a fraction of that one can buy the item with desired UV guaranteed. Also the silent nightblade is not a level 10 5* item in which one cannot afford to replace.
If you are going to roll then be prepared for a fiend low UV to do a bellyflop right into your LD hopes and dreams.
Fri, 01/17/2014 - 08:51
#3
last I checked
To some extent it depends on whether you want a specific UV, and how big you want that UV to be. Last I checked, it was easier to buy fancy UVs from other players. Here is some arithmetic to support that idea. For my example, I'll suppose that you want a Brandish with CTR+3 or CTR+4.
We don't have great data on Punch's UV rates, but let's assume that they're similar to crafting UV rates. Then you'll get a CTR UV about 1/8 of the time. Our crafting data suggests that +3s and +4s occur roughly 1/16 of the time. There's a lot of uncertainty in that figure, but let's go with it. Then you expect to buy about 8 * 16 = 128 1-UV tickets to get CTR+3 or CTR+4. That's an expected cost of 128 * 20,000 = 2,560,000 crowns.
Last time I checked the Auction House, CTR+4 Brandishes cost less than 2.5 million, and CTR+3 Brandishes cost much, much less. So the Auction House is cheaper.
Fri, 01/17/2014 - 20:16
#4
Depends if you want to play smart or get lucky
You can't say Auction house is cheaper because for example: some players actually roll Ctr Vh uv's on their weapons on their first-10th time therefore spending less money than they would have if they wasted 2m buying it off someone or the Ah.
It simply depends on your luck and on how much crowns you're willing to invest for the uv you desire.
Ah or buying off people is the smart way
Uv rolling are for the rich and lucky people
^^ What about the people that are rich,lucky,and smart?
Those people are the players that are the best...
Fri, 01/17/2014 - 20:40
#5
yes, you can
The point of probability theory is to figure out random phenomena. I was describing the expected cost of getting that UV, assuming certain odds. Yes, some knights will get lucky and spend less than 2.5 million crowns on Punch. Others will get unlucky and spend more than 2.5 million crowns. The average and expected amount is 2.5 million (assuming that the odds I quoted are right).
Fri, 01/17/2014 - 20:58
#6
I'd go with the Auction House.
As stated, finding the UV that you absolutely must have is easier at the Auction House. It is also much cheaper and the only thing that can stress you out over it is thinking about whether or not that UV will actually help.
When it comes to rolling, Punch just stares into your poor, tormented soul. Daring you to continue rolling for that one UV. Come on, come on! This is my last 20,000 crowns! I need to get that ASI Max on this Thorn Blade. Come on, please please please Punch! Do it!!! Slime low... (At this point the player would have jumped off the nearest bridge going over an active volcano.)
If you do want to ever attempt rolling with Punch, try to only use him with normal weapons or armor. Normal weapons can only gain a benefit, even if it is a low. Armor can get nothing but good UVs, it's just not easy to notice unless it has been stacked with another armor piece. Even then the difference isn't much. But the important thing is that it is in fact there, increasing your survival by the tiniest bit.
For your weapon of choice the Auction House will be your safest bet.
Fri, 01/17/2014 - 21:01
#7
depends
''assuming that the odds i quoted are right''
What about if those odds are wrong?...Then your whole theory doesn't have data to back it up.
Let's just hope that what your saying is right..
Sat, 01/18/2014 - 06:21
#8
make decisions with imperfect data
One must always make decisions with imperfect data. That's life.
Most of the uncertainty is on the magnitude, not type, of UV. If the chance of +3/+4 is 1/8 instead of 1/16 (quite optimistic, but let's go with it), then the expected cost is 1.28 million instead of 2.56 million. A CTR+3 Brandish sells for far less than that on the Auction House. You're right that a CTR+4 Brandish may sell for more than that, though.
It's a lot easier to roll UVs on your armor, because there's only defensive UVs.
For weapons it's ASI, CTR, slime dmg, gremlin dmg, beast dmg etc etc.
You have more luck at armor UVs.
For armor rolling I'd recommend at least 300k and for weapons 500k, especially if it's multiple weapons.