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Gorgos have replaced Greavers as Most Annoying Monster

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Sun, 01/19/2014 - 05:10
Mayaura's picture
Mayaura

At least Greavers have a predictable flight pattern, coming right for you in a steady straight motion before trying to get to your backside so they can bite you on the butt.

But these (relatively) new Gorgos jump around randomly like a hyperactive bag of potatoes with a deceptively deadly range. Geez, they're annoying.

Sun, 01/19/2014 - 05:20
#1
Vyktor-Kun's picture
Vyktor-Kun
OM NOMNOM

Iunno, i still seem to have more problems with greavers than gorgos, keep a good distance from them and you´re fine, be patient, and bring piercing (preferably a gun), however greavers still outright murder me without a second thought, especially if theres more than one

Sun, 01/19/2014 - 05:25
#2
Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

Yes yes, tell OOO that so that next time they make us DOOM MOUNTAIN: X-MAS EDITION we'll get re-spawning gorgos instead of re-spawning grievers... then, I'll be able to earn something in my three days of playing before I leave.

Sun, 01/19/2014 - 05:32
#3
Zaffy-Laffy's picture
Zaffy-Laffy

I never had a problem with greavers, even with 300ms of ping. Gorgos are outrageously irritating. They sway from left to right, making it hard to hit them with the sword, and even the best of shadow shields can't take 3 hits of their mega bites.

Sun, 01/19/2014 - 05:38
#4
Flowchart's picture
Flowchart

use dbb on both.

Sun, 01/19/2014 - 05:48
#5
Blazzberry's picture
Blazzberry
I have no mouth and I need to scream

I normally can rebound a shot off my storm for a chance to shock. Shock basically kills them. That or use the callahan/badslug switch on them.

If anything, I have more trouble with wolvers. And I don't mean just one, I mean a entire pack of them.

If all else fails, use mo' gun.

Sun, 01/19/2014 - 06:37
#6
Chaolin-Drake's picture
Chaolin-Drake
hciwdnaS a si ekarD

I have to agree Gorgos are indeed worst then Greavers now, but doesn't mean you cannot be killed.

Now for those that have a hard time killing those blasted gorgos.

Not all guns can't do much on Gorgos unless with AT (which FYI I don't use) guns like the pulsar line can knock them back and since pulsar bullets expands it will make the shots will hit even more and doing more damage to them.

The Magnus line can work to if you can know how they move, can do good damage can a chance of stun if your using Callahan which is most recommended will do good work to those gorgos.

And the new upcoming piercing guns will also will most likely kill them easy, Valiance, Blitz Needle, Volcanic Pepperbox, (yes pepperbox works to well in my opinion) and Plague Needle.

But if your not a gunner? Dark Briar Barrage will rip those gorgos apart since you will most likely face them in a pack, Scintillating Sun Shards will work too but it seems DBB will get the job done easier, Any Flourish line or Snarble Barb line if you have one can rip them up too my favorite flourish I like to use on them is my Daring Rigadoon 4* I also have a Final Flourish too but I like using Rigadoon more on them because of it's stun.

Statuses that can be used on them is obviously Shock and Stun, Shock can interrupt any gorgo as long it's not Shock themed, and Stun can harm any gorgo and it slows them down allowing you to get a clear shot as a gunner. Other status will work too but Shock and Stun works best IMO and if you one of those people that like putting statuses on your enemies haze bombs so yeah.

That is all <3

Then a single Pig Tail Knight has taken out seerus's army by itself without dieing with it cuteness in result they all became friends and they all went happily ever after,

THE END

Sun, 01/19/2014 - 07:11
#7
Rezzler's picture
Rezzler
In a swarm, greavers

In a swarm, greavers definitely are more difficult. Only because they attack from all fronts.

But solo, gorgos are marginally more difficult.

To beat them solo, just baackpedal when they are about to attack (it is quite obvious when they are about to attack) or shield bump them away. Unless you have a blitz. Then youre in luck.

Sun, 01/19/2014 - 08:10
#8
Bamzalot's picture
Bamzalot
I can fight both with ease. Devilites still rip me apart.

My plan against gorgos is to Just use a poker. Preferably Rigadoon or Flamberge. They seem to be slightly more effective for me, though that's probably just because of my luck with these weapons. Anyway, I use them to just dive right on in against the most isolated gorgo I can find. A full combo can stop any attack they try to pull off. The fast dashes of the swords also can help continue a combo while keeping a bit of distance from others.

If I am running low on health then a more defensive approach is necessary. I do the same general strategy as my dive in and kill, but this time I will keep watch on where each gorgo is. If I see any of them getting ready to start their bite I will dash in the safest direction I can find, put up my shield, and begin to walk away from them. This usually causes them to only get a single chunk from my shield which is good enough to recharge and reuse.

When all else fails, pull out a Callahan to snipe them. If you brought a Blitz or Plague Needle, keep your distance and pick them off one by one. If you don't have much health, focus on hitting them with a single basic volley and not the charge. The extended range is exceptionally useful. That's what I do and it often times can keep me alive.

Sun, 01/19/2014 - 08:24
#9
Skayeth's picture
Skayeth
Chawkthree

He offers some of the best strategies ever. Just watch his video! But honestly, a shivermist buster will certainly trap that bouncing devil, and then you can finish him. Or...use a brandish charge. The explosions will hit them more easily, and maybe even make them flinch. Using a blitz needle is always good, especially the charge attack. Stay far away, and charge right into their crowd. The most helpful is your friend using a bomb and you are using a blitz needle.

Let's light them up like a Christmas Tree! ;D

Sun, 01/19/2014 - 08:59
#10
Kathrine-Dragon's picture
Kathrine-Dragon
Guys, guys, GUYS!

Gorgos are the answer to our prayer. Remember when we wanted wolvers with a better AI that included mid-attack tracking? And remember when we wanted more fiends? OOO combined the two to make us the gorgos and now we hate them. What's wrong with y'all?

Sun, 01/19/2014 - 09:32
#11
Bamzalot's picture
Bamzalot
@Kathrine-Dragon

It's only average behavior for a human player in Spiral Knights.

OOO! Give us harder stuff! Make everything kill us in one hit! Make attacks track us down for miles and remove shields!

So OOO does that. What do they get in return?

OOO! Everything is too hard! Nerf everything! Make attacks deal 3 damage! Lets us one hit kill Vanaduke! Gives us stronger shields!

So OOO does that. What happens?

OOO! Why did you do this!? We want things to kill us in one hit! We want Vanaduke to remove all our sparks on hit! We hate these shields!

So OOO decides to go undercover working for the CIANASAFBI as a team called DDD.

Sun, 01/19/2014 - 09:36
#12
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Krakob

Ignoring what everyone here has said because I cannot be arsed reading so much, I shall now present my beliefs on the design of Gorgos.
Did anyone ever notice how swords were more or less the only viable anti-fiend weapons in the past? Gorgos are the exact opposite. They're a pain to take on with swords while they have no ability to fight an enemy at a distance a.k.a. a bomber or gunslinger.

Sun, 01/19/2014 - 09:46
#13
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle

as a team called DDD

Because no sane man alive complains about boobs.

Sun, 01/19/2014 - 10:28
#14
Jendar-Nox's picture
Jendar-Nox
...

At this moment, the most efficient anti-gorgo solution is Callahan, due to its ability to interrupt their attacks and occasionally inflict stun.

The Gunner Update will obviously offer us some new options (at least 3, as far as I can judge).

Sun, 01/19/2014 - 10:44
#15
Autofire's picture
Autofire
You are experiencing a PICNIC ERROR!

I prefer just to drop my Ash of Agni on those Gorgos and let them slow cook. If that doesn't work, I blast their heads off with my Callahan. (I can never hit them reliably, though!)

Greavers? I want them on my birthday cake. They come right into my DVS's range...it's fun!

Sun, 01/19/2014 - 11:56
#16
Canine-Vladmir's picture
Canine-Vladmir
Many People forget....

Many players forget that Gorgos have a 3 attack pattern, with a pause between the 2nd and 3rd attack sequence.
I think thats where there super annoying. Ppl unshield after the 2nd attack and then get damaged by the 3rd attack.

Rule #1: Shield through entirety
Rule #2: Pay attention after 2nd attack
Rule #3: only attack after it finishes its 3rd attack combo
Rule #4: distance yourself from a pack of Gorgos as their attack sequence maybe timed differently (as one gorgos finsihes his combo, another one may be halfway through his)
Rule #5: profit!

Sun, 01/19/2014 - 12:21
#17
Sirius-Voltbreaker's picture
Sirius-Voltbreaker
You are kinda getting a bit spammmy with threads lately...

Greavers were never annoying for me. Just easy. They have a weak defense and to interupt them just hit them once.

Sun, 01/19/2014 - 12:33
#18
Thunder-The-Bright's picture
Thunder-The-Bright
gods ain't gonna help you, son.

use DBB or SSS, they really help.
DBB is a flinching piercing nitrome without knockback. I can stop here.
SSS has fiend VH, and stun. you gotta time a bit, but it's more effective (imo).

Sun, 01/19/2014 - 12:49
#19
Oroseira's picture
Oroseira
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Actually, what's worse here is Mecha Knights.

Sun, 01/19/2014 - 19:11
#20
Raunwynn's picture
Raunwynn
They watch your cursor. A

They watch your cursor.
A Gorgon will try to stay to one side of your cursor when you aim.
You can get them to stop swaying by keeping your cursor to one side of them rather than trying to aim right at them.

Sun, 01/19/2014 - 23:44
#21
Klipik-Forum's picture
Klipik-Forum

The counter to Gorgos is brandish charge.
The counter to Greavers is brandish charge.
The counter to devilites is brandish charge.
The counter to just about everything except vanaduke, swarm turrets, and pro LD players is brandish charge.
The counter to brandish charge is... Brandish charge with more CTR.

Does this solve your problem?

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 03:20
#22
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Aplauses

They watch your cursor.
A Gorgon will try to stay to one side of your cursor when you aim.
You can get them to stop swaying by keeping your cursor to one side of them rather than trying to aim right at them.

If this really true then I really applaud Three Rings for that. That is just brilliant design.

/cheers

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 09:30
#23
Doctorspacebar's picture
Doctorspacebar
Formulate a plan!

Much like Toxigels' spike spin attack, Gorgos' bites are hard to predict the path of; however, you can predict the timing of the bites just fine. Shield accordingly. Alternatively, wait until a Gorgo's first bite, then dash behind them to avoid the attack more easily.

Gorgos bite three times; after the third bite, they stop. This is the least risky chance to kill them with a sword. Bombs are great for killing them because you can run backward and plant them without losing much speed; Dark Briar Barrage and its predecessors are great for this, as are the Shivermist Buster and Voltaic Tempest (when not in a Freeze or Shock stratum, respectively). Guns are also good for hitting Gorgos before they can hit you; since Gorgo flight paths tend to be unpredictable, a weapon with good spread such as the Blitz Needle (regular shot) or Polaris will make things easier, but you can manage with a Valiance, Driver or Callahan.

Ideally these stratagems should ameliorate your present difficulties with Gorgos.

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 10:34
#24
Skayeth's picture
Skayeth
-_-

You know, after all these pointless debate replies, you could have just watched this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIWfA-wvmqo

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 12:28
#25
Klipik-Forum's picture
Klipik-Forum

That video is erroneous because it doesn't mention brandish charge.

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 12:32
#26
Sandwich-Potato's picture
Sandwich-Potato

That video is erroneous because it doesn't mention B̶r̶a̶n̶d̶i̶s̶h Combuster charge.

There, fixed that for you.

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 12:35
#27
Klipik-Forum's picture
Klipik-Forum

Glacius works better.

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 12:39
#28
Sandwich-Potato's picture
Sandwich-Potato

Wrong. Combuster's charge attack definitely outdamages its shock and freeze counterparts.

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 12:59
#29
Klipik-Forum's picture
Klipik-Forum

And if they manage to slip off the side, you're toast. Glacius and Voltedge are both safer than combuster because of their interruption.

Tue, 01/21/2014 - 22:23
#30
Mayaura's picture
Mayaura
Oh, OK, I got it now

I equipped my Barbarous Thorn blade with VH damage vs Fiend and what right at them, no problem.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 14:51
#31
Inf-Stand
I usually just spam the

I usually just spam the combuster from midrange and run away if they start to rev up to attack. If I'm close to them and I see them rev up, I try to disrupt them with a charged attack instead of running. If I happen to miss my charge attack at close range, I immediately spam the quickdash button and try to dash behind them, then run out of the range of their three bites.

If they do chase me with the bites, i get ready to punish them immediately after the third finishes since they will be both close to me and unable to attack again.

As for the thread though, I agree they are a bit more annoying than grievers.

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