What monster drops more crowns: Giant lichen Colony or normal lichen (non fused)? Would x amount of non fused lichens give an equal amount compared to one giant lichen colony?
Giant lichen vs bunch of normal lichen
Mon, 01/20/2014 - 21:32
Tue, 01/21/2014 - 06:13
#2
age-old dispute
This used to be a hot topic on the forums and in the game. Players would whine "let them merge!", hoping to get more rewards. Then they would kick players who didn't let the lichens merge. I followed the issue fairly closely, and never saw any evidence one way or the other.
It wouldn't be too difficult to do a systematic study, now that elevators are free.
Tue, 01/21/2014 - 07:50
#3
A few things to note if someone were to test...
Be sure to keep the depth the same.
Take lots of data (I would say 10 kills may not be enough, 50 would be good)
For giant colonies, be sure to have the same quantity of merges.
The mission "6.2 sewer stash" has the first depth a lichen themed depth.
Someone in game pointed out that the wiki does in fact state that the giant colonies get more heat. I would take this with a grain of salt because Bopp says there is no evidence either way.
At least we can say that the giant colonies drop more than the normal lichens on a 1-to-1 comparison. The key test would be counting how many colonies combined give the optimal drop rates.
Tue, 01/21/2014 - 08:00
#4
just to clarify
Just to be clear, my comment was not about heat. Heat is very difficult to measure, and I personally have no incentive to measure it, because I rarely have any unheated items.
I agree with the rest of your experimental protocol. Also, the tester should note both crowns and materials, as there have been arguments about the materials part in the past.
The number of runs that you need will depend on how big the difference (if any) is. If the difference is small, then you'll need many runs to get a statistically significant result. In other words, you will keep concluding "there is no statistically significant difference" for a while, until maybe one day you finally find a significant difference.
Mon, 02/24/2014 - 06:01
#5
Idea. To reduce the amount of time it takes, why not employ a number of agents of instructions by which to follow, specific enough that there is some standard procedure allowed but enough flexibility so that it does not interfere with the results. That is, when regarding the lichen's lair on a particular floor.
Somehow or some way, I've wanted to measure heat as well. But I can hardly fathom how to do so accurately when the pool of heat appears to differ, either per floor, stratum, or tier. And I can almost assume that the size of the party and difficulty settings may have something to do with how much of what drop is received. But I cannot be so sure about the former mention.
To whoever attempts to study this, good luck getting a sound method underway.
Sun, 05/11/2014 - 05:28
#6
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Data
I find it rather difficult to count the number of combined lichens, especially at higher numbers. Also, it becomes really tedious so that is about all the data I'm willing to gather.
Sun, 05/11/2014 - 06:24
#7
need more
It's fair to say that we need more data, to start drawing conclusions, right? For example, there have been only two measurements on 5-lichen giants, with 27 or 63 crowns dropped. That's a lot of uncertainty.
Sun, 05/11/2014 - 06:45
#8
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As nice as it would be to have a monster drop potential, this preliminary data shows that there is very high uncertainty. There would need to be lots more data than what I took.
It seems that Giant Lichen Colonies drop more heat, making it good for people running low on materials to feed Spritey the Mighty or wanting to quickly heat their equipment.