Spiral Knights - Lore Discussion: Everfrost

Lore Discussion: Everfrost

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Tue, 01/28/2014 - 08:02

Ghret

A small patch of ice crystals that never seem to melt, even when exposed to direct heat.

So, what makes a solid melt? The application of heat energy. What is the unit of measurement of this? Specific Heat capacity, Joules / cm cubed. The amount of energy required to raise the temperature of 1cm cubed of a material by 1* Celsius.
This means that the specific heat capacity for this material, the energy required to make it change temperature, is incredibly high. What could make it this high?

A Bose-Einstein Condensate. A group of bosons cooled so much that they have achieved the least active state possible. In this such state their heat capacity would be incredibly high, high enough to withstand direct heat perhaps.

And as for how this thing is formed, all I can say is that it cannot be possibly be through natural processes. Unless some super-coolant is spraying onto a pipe of bosons I think someone is creating these patches of nevermelt for some reason. Whiskey stones perhaps.

NOTE: I have no idea what I am talking about outside of the Everfrost being a(n artificial) Bose-Einstein condensate with a high heat capacity to allow it to be exposed to direct heat without changing phases. I'm not a physicist.

Tue, 01/28/2014 - 08:21

Feline-Grenadier

Not that you'd need to be a physicist if you're ahead of 95+% of the players here.

Tue, 01/28/2014 - 09:48

Ghret

It's doesn't matter whether you're right or not, it is whether you can prove it. And I can not. For that I need someone else to come along and say why I'm either right or an idiot.

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 11:25

Battlegrinder

I doubt it's a Boss-Einstein Condensate, since condensates only form at temperatures close to absolute zero. I doubt the clockworks get that cold, and even they did, there's no way that Knights could get to that area or for mobs to get out. And given that Condensates can only form in those conditions, they also can only stay formed in those conditions. Scientists have to use vacuum chambers, magnetic coolers, and other technologies to isolate the condensates, precisely because any amount of heat leaking into the condensate will melt it. Taking a Condensate out of that place would be equivalent to throwing an ice cube into lava.

So if its not (and cannot be) and Condensate, what can it be? Given that lore states Everfrost doesn't melt when exposed to open flame, that lowers the threshold for what it can withstand significantly. Assuming that by "open flame" the lore is referring to something like a candle or campfire (which would still be way overkill for melting a snow-like substance, which is what Everfrost looks like), then it's melting temperature would be somewhere above the 500-1000 degree range. Certainly high, but not much higher than most metals, but not that high. I'd guess that Everfrost is some kind of translucent metallic compound, or something in that vein.

Sun, 05/04/2014 - 06:08

Ghret

When I was talking about the Bosen-Einstein Condensate I was thinking that they would somehow be fixed into their current active state. Since ENERGY appears to be Phlebotinum lets go ahead and say that when ENERGY is applied to a very inactive particle it then serves to maintain that state. Possibly through 'fixing' electron orbitals into position.
Though if Condensates are truly incapable of existing outside of their created conditions then my theory goes down the pan.

But yours, however, could actually hold up. My conclusion based on your theory is that diamond shavings (from Gremlins cutting diamonds for industrial use) float through the Clockworks before alighting upon some grassy surface. The local secondary consumers ('Lisks) eat these shavings along with the grass and, since they cannot break down the structure of Diamond (I think), are congealed and excreted. Sometimes these diamond particles can become trapped somewhere in the body e.g. intestinal lining, alveoli, and continue growing until they become the sizes we are aware of today.

Sun, 05/04/2014 - 06:21

Cinoa

It's a game ;-;

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Lore Discussion: Everfrost