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How is strata theme determined?

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Fri, 05/27/2011 - 10:32
Mohandar's picture
Mohandar

I'm not talking about the basic formulas or alloyed strata, I'm talking about when the primary formula gets anti'd, how is the strata determined then? In theory, if each color is given a rank 1-5 (based on highest to lowest amount) and we set the colors in the order on the deposit box (R-G-B-Y-P), each permutation should result in a unique theme. This is because the gate recipes are supposedly based on the relative rank of each color to the other colors in that strata.

However, I've observed that the permutation 5-4-3-2-1 (R-G-B-Y-P) can result in either Gremlin, Slime, Poison, or Construct thus far. Does anyone have any clues to what happens when the anti triggers?

Fri, 05/27/2011 - 11:31
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Gigafreak
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I -thought- I was onto

I -thought- I was onto something a while ago-- the products of an anti'd stratum would consistently turn out to be the result of just pretending the second-place mineral didn't exist, and going by the formula for the top mineral plus the anti mineral.

Then I saw one, about a week or two ago, where that didn't happen.

If memory serves, it was Dark > Light > Blue > Green > Red.
It started as Undead and then ended up as... Fiend, somehow.

My logic process was something like this:
Dark + Light = Undead. Anti mineral is Blue, resulting in...
Dark + Blue = Shock.... But the mineral after Blue is Green, the anti for Shock. So that results in...
Dark + Green = Poison... The anti mineral for Poison is Yellow, which was in second place... not fifth. Or does it even work that way? Where on earth did the red minerals come in to make it into Fiend?

...And then I gave up. Need more information!

Fri, 05/27/2011 - 14:23
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Mohandar
Is strata theming deterministic?

Assuming the strata theme is fully deterministic (nothing random, you can follow a set of rules to reach the result), then my observations mean either the order of deposition matters, or some mysterious factor is at play (like absolute number of minerals, time of deposition, etc.). I am more inclined to believe in the former, that the order in which the final 5-4-3-2-1 permutation is achieved affects the resulting strata, when the first, second or more combinations gets anti'd. At first blush this theory might account for why different strata themes could arise from the same permutation, though I admit I haven't sat down to think it out yet. If this is the case, testing will be tricky, as I do not have large reserves; I'll have to watch a new gate fill up starting from zero.

Of course, if the formula for anti'd strata is not deterministic, then there's no point in trying to figure this out. (i.e. if the primary combo is anti'd a random theme is picked)

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