Since when can we open up our recipe list and be able to craft without the crafting machine? That makes the crafting machines pointless decoration now.
Since when have crafting machines been useless?
Mon, 02/03/2014 - 08:59
Mon, 02/03/2014 - 09:13
#2
Are you trying to tell me I'm
Are you trying to tell me I'm wrong? Why don't you go check it out. Obviously I don't mean you can craft during a run without an Arsenal Station. I mean standing anywhere in Haven where there isn't a crafting machine.
I have no idea what you really said, but it makes it sound like you think I'm a noob which makes me laugh.
Mon, 02/03/2014 - 09:28
#3
gods ain't gonna help you, son.
you can craft freely in heaven, and only in heaven. not in the clockworks, not in subtowns.
so, yeah, we don't need these alchemy machines anymore.
Mon, 02/03/2014 - 09:30
#4
And again, my question of
And again, my question of "since when?"
Mon, 02/03/2014 - 09:33
#5
You've been a little temperamental lately, maybe cool down a bit? I wouldn't deny that I'm getting my sick kicks out of recent drama though..
Of course that recipe tab was there for the purpose of crafting without the crafting machine, now a decoration at most. We're not banging rocks here.
Mon, 02/03/2014 - 09:37
#6
I'm being temperamental? And
I'm being temperamental? And again, since when can we craft from our recipe list? We haven't always been able to do that.
Mon, 02/03/2014 - 09:38
#7
gods ain't gonna help you, son.
the recipe tab was to check if you already have a recipe, so you didn't make mistakes at HoH/basil. till now.
and it partially still is so, since you cannot craft into the clockorks and in subtowns.
Mon, 02/03/2014 - 09:58
#8
Where did I call you a noob?
I was bringing in information of which is seems like you ignored intentionally.
They ARE needed (which your first post suggests they are not).
You are accurate that we can transmute without a machine in Haven. I pointed that you cannot outside of Haven. Try in the guild hall. Try anywhere in the clockworks (including depths 0, 4, 8, 13, 18, 23, 29). You need the machine there. It is ONLY Haven that does not have this restriction.
There are a lot of things that we can do in Haven that we cannot elsewhere. Next are we going to complain that we can chat with Kozma and purchase things from the supply depot without actually visiting her?
Fun fact: There is an arsenal station in every Haven, you just don't have to walk up to it for crafting.
Edit: Typo: Arsenal station -> Alchemy machine, we obviously can't craft in Arsenal stations.
Mon, 02/03/2014 - 09:40
#9
This was stealth added around the same time the Event Alchemy machine was added to Haven, so around mid-end December.
Mon, 02/03/2014 - 09:41
#10
I'm asking when it was
I'm asking when it was changed. What update made this happen? How long has this been in effect? Why is my question so hard to understand?
Mon, 02/03/2014 - 09:47
#11
@Momofuku: Thanks for an
@Momofuku: Thanks for an answer.
EDIT: @Skepticraven: All I was saying is that it seemed like you were trying to tell me I was wrong like I didn't know what I was talking about. I said I didn't really understand you. Anyway... Fun Fact: I've never seen an arsenal station in Haven.
Mon, 02/03/2014 - 09:46
#12
...but the possibility for it to be added in would have been created at the same time as the forge.
/knowledge SE
Mon, 02/03/2014 - 09:48
#13
WAAAAT
Tried it out = Mind
WAAAAT
Tried it out = Mind blown.
Have been running up to that top left alchemy machine thousands of times since Winterfest. All that wasted leg work!
Mon, 02/03/2014 - 09:51
#14
@Sleepy-Hollows
Why is my question so hard to understand?
The question (bolded for the source of confusion)
Since when have crafting machines been useless?
My response (summary):
They aren't useless.
Suggested rephrasing to reduce confusion:
Since when have you been able to transmute in Haven without using an alchemy machine?
Or Shorter:
Crafting in Haven w/o Machine? Since when?
Mon, 02/03/2014 - 09:54
#15
@Exerpa: Yeah. I know right?
@Exerpa: Yeah. I know right? I thought the guy standing in front of me in Haven earlier was bluffing when he said he just crafted his helmet without ever moving.
@Skepticrave: Right. I wasn't considering other locations of crafting machines when I wrote that. Should have been clearer. Apologies for that, yet I still think your initial response made it sound like I had no clue what I was talking about. Also, arsenal stations in Haven? Since when?
Mon, 02/03/2014 - 09:59
#16
@Sleepy-Hollows
Typo: Arsenal station -> Alchemy machine, we obviously can't craft in Arsenal stations.
There are, however, plenty of crates around that could possibly be arsenal stations - we just can't interact with them.
Mon, 02/03/2014 - 09:59
#17
Heart of Valor
Oh yeah. I remember this. You can also use other F commands to open up your arsenal, friends list, hub, supply depot, et cetera.
'The more 'ya know"
Mon, 02/03/2014 - 18:48
#18
Forge/Orbs of Alchemy update.
This means we can relive the days of corner crafting! But only in an illusion.
Tue, 02/04/2014 - 11:20
#19
erhm...
This was stealth added around the same time the Event Alchemy machine was added to Haven, so around mid-end December.
No. This feature was there for a long... LONG time. The default hotkey for recipe list is F5 and you could craft w/o alchemy machine since Mist Update, if not before that... it's been an unknown featured in SK (like a lot of stuff anyway...) I noticed it right before the mist update...
F5 was my record button so I found that out by accident. It's F9 now...
Tue, 02/04/2014 - 20:25
#20
@Rhagnarock: Fascinating.
@Rhagnarock: Fascinating. Thanks.
Wed, 02/05/2014 - 00:44
#21
You are accurate that we can transmute without a machine in Haven. I pointed that you cannot outside of Haven
Fun fact: There is an [Alchemy Machine] in every Haven, you just don't have to walk up to it for crafting.
There's no Alchemy Machine in the Garrison, nor is there one in the Rescue Camp. Both places you can craft with the Recipe menu.
Wed, 02/05/2014 - 01:00
#22
The Garrison has one, all the way... to the... right.... hand.. side............... Thanks OOO
Anyway, what about the forge. Why can we use the forge in the Garrison, Arcade of Bazaar when it's in the Haven Square. Why can we use it in mission lobbies too.
Wed, 02/05/2014 - 06:11
#23
@Hexzyle
Erm, there are actually 2 alchemy machines in the Garrison. One next to the lab, one next to the hall of heroes. Also, the rescue camp may not be considered part of haven (plot-wise, but not coding wise).
Wed, 02/05/2014 - 08:14
#24
Okay, I didn't realize. Haven't been there in a bit.
Restricts where you can craft things.
Specifically NOT during a run.
There is a similar restriction on where you can forge (need an arsenal station). This makes heating items on boss runs slow and undesirable.
The same thing goes for crafting.