Spiral Knights - Do i see a new class rising from the dust...?

Do i see a new class rising from the dust...?

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Thu, 02/27/2014 - 14:15

Lonely-Tear

well people you saw the new shields, and if ya didnt here is a little secret..
THE SHIELDBASH IS AMEAZING!

that aside with new ability that current torto shields offer, i cant look back on something like thise.

we all know the "classes" - specialist, gunslinger, guardian, striker, deffender ('s) bomber...
even wiki mention this perticular name..

Shieldbearer
im only one that thinks this might happend sooner or leater? some intresting little armor that buffs shields themselfs.. i bet it would be intresting to wield 2 Omega shells hehe
(sorry for bad spelling)

what do you guys think

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 14:22

Drischa

Look at what you're suggesting. A "Shieldbearer" class, able to take hits for people.

Look at the guardian class.

Do you see what I'm going to not say right now because you should be able to figure it out.

I was wondering when they were going to do a guardian update, complete with actual point in trying to be one.

Because aggro works on damage done, the guardians never have the aggro of monsters. what with sudas and iron slugs being not exactly the biggest damage output in the game.

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 14:43

Fehzor

I don't think that I would consider the shield to be a "defender" like weapon, as it requires you to shield bash, which effectively means not defending with the shield so as to stun+offensively attack things.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 16:15

Drischa

Leaked footage of shieldbearer gameplay: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqyAmIrCyG8

(When it uploads, that is. Bear with me for another... 342 minutes? o-o)

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 16:38

Seiran

Actually, if anything, I can

Actually, if anything, I can imagine the shield being an alternative "effects" sidearm.

Like right now, there are 4 "effects" (I'm making up these names btw):

bash: Slide the owner a certain distance/speed, moderate stun on contact
tortodrone0: Slide the owner a certain distance/speed, moderate stun on contact, play small tortodrone animation, certain radius
tortodrone1: Slide the owner a certain distance/speed, moderate stun on contact, play medium tortodrone animation, slightly larger
tortodrone2: Slide the owner a certain distance/speed, moderate stun on contact, play large tortodrone animation, large radius

But now, that opens up the path for things like this:
heater: Slide the owner forward quickly (with some end time), spawn mini fire haze effect behind player.
drill: Slide the owner forward, dealing multiple small hits, some stun, and minor knockback.
*bustercannon: Pose the character extending the shield forward, spawn valiance charge.

etc.

**I'm half-joking here, but there's some mega potential here, man.
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*I wanted to get one of the tortodrone shields as a costume piece (cause seriously, gunslinger with a shield that looks like it has a cannon mouth!? YEAH), but then I found out it has actual different effects/graphics than regular shieldbash - completely won me over!
**These are shields, not actual weapons, so I wouldn't really want to treat them as primary ways of attacks, but eh you know, that dual wielding thing does sound like a possibility now...

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 22:09

Drischa

I was thinking that shields

I was thinking that shields could do with more in the way of uniqueness. The breaker sets, for example, maybe be completely pointless, but it would be cool if the shield bashes all had a colour similar to that of the shield, and dealt their respective status rather than stun. Logical choices would be made on this though, volcanic plate shield wouldn't go round setting everything on fire due it it's fire resistance, it just doesn't look like it would.

It'd be cool having shields function as something more. In most RPGs I've palyed, you have a skillset that uses the shield as a weapon, or something that gives you more abilities. For example, you can charge your shield with electricity and throw it captain-america-style, or absorb one hit and parry it by hitting the enemy and applying buffs to you & teammates, or do some fancy attack that involves hitting your opponent with a spinning shield dance and then your next attack's critical chance is something like 80%.

All these are existent techniques in other games. I like shields btw.

I'm sure Three Rings is working on crazy stuff as we speak. Who knows, they might even have some gunner shields coming up with that update that everyone's apparently waiting for. I personally love the way that they've made this event gear totally unique, I'll be happy if I get the 4* because at least it'll be viable in T3. Will definitely replace ironmight as my go-to piercing shield. Ironmight needs a buff btw. shock resistance would probably fit. or perhaps poison. I dunno.

Once again thanks to OOO for making the game interesting and new for everyone for a little while longer.

EDIT: video is now up. here's the link if you're someone who for some reason skips posts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqyAmIrCyG8

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 09:19

Anthrom

what if pancakes ruled the world?

Sortha what drach said
We could give shield more use
Like shield bumping but with an animation like riot shield in cod without having to pull out the shield and would push enemies away dealing stun or something or an attack other than shield bashing that would deal normal damage but help in battle

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 09:52

Valorai

Heart of Valor.

10/10 would shield again.

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 11:12

Fehzor

I'm inclined to agree, but would like to say that OOO very deliberately balanced these shields towards being able to charge and bash and whatnot.

Breaker shields would be great for this, but dread skelly? Owlite? Those are already fine.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 02:51

Drischa

@fezzy

You bring up a great point. Perhaps just a few shields should have this feature. If shields damaged in the type they defend against... it could be both good and bad. Shadow shields would never do effective damage *and* defend well. So that probably wouldn't work.

I just noticed how the new shields attack in a similar way to a really weak sudaruska charge. A dash forward with AOE stun at the end <:D

Anyways, these shields are prime examples of what should be happening with shields - different lines having different mechanics. I don't see brandishes and cutters swinging the same way so why should all shields work the same? D:

I love the feeling of power you get from these. even the design, the way that they look like a really big piece of armour on your arm... it feels like you've got a device attached that multiplies your strength.
Swiftstrike does the same but with speed. Why not rename these things devices rather than shields?
Well, for swiftstrike at least.
I wonder if we'll get some gunner shields.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 08:18

#10

Arelic

Is there not a guild called Shield Walkers? Would they have been celebrating during the moment that the "Bash" from the Dash and Bash release?

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 06:54

#11

Chaolin-Drake

Drake is umm, can't think of anything at the moment.

Speaking of shieldbearer I made a thread a few days ago a idea of a new shield for Lockdown is called the Basher Shield that can be added or replace the Striker Shield.

It will have almost the same features as the Shield Bash but it will not deal stun on contact and you can use the bash more then once.

I know what you guys thinking when I said (replace the Striker Shield)

But that's not exactly very fast. It's SLOWER than walking
The Striker boost's primary use is currently dodging. This would make it completely opposite of dodging

Yes the striker booster primary use is dodging but admit it the Striker Shield itself is a little too OP nowadays and a massive nerf on it may not cut it unless OOO make it using the boost will last 1 sec when it's full and take 6 sec for it to recharge but still may not cut it.

For more info on the Basher Shield? check out my 4th What if thread. http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/97860
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Well now for this thread itself.

Shieldbearer will or will not be a great addition with Guns, Swords, And Bombs, Maybe OOO will update some other shields to have a different effect like the Skelly Shield line will deal shadow damage instead of normal damage but no stun same goes to Owlite and Jelly Shield line with the damage type that will be prefect for it like, piercing for Jelly, elemental for Owlite, and no stun.

Plate line will deal more normal damage then other Shields with normal damage but no stun until there, 5* Ironmight Plate Shield deals stun, Volcanic Plate Shield deals fire, and it will be cool if the Heater Shield deals freeze with it charge instead of stun, don't you think?

But with the other Shields it's up to OOO when think about the other stats.

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Do i see a new class rising from the dust...?