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Vog Cub, Skolver, Or Snarbolax set

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Wed, 03/05/2014 - 15:32
#51
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Petater

Ev has a radius smaller than that of a combuster's hit line, so more often than not I find outlier zombies still around when an ev is used. Also consider when you're using an ev you're not using a combuster. Slags go down very easily with a combuster. Time spent on combustering is smaller than prepping an ev then using a combuster afterwards when solo. I usually can get maximized combuster charges solo because I know where to stand and the pattern they spawn in anyhow, no ev assist is needed for grouping them if you've done vana long enough to know spawn patterns.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 10:45
#52
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Shadowstarkirby
@Peater

The point of the EV is to concentrate your enemies into one spot so you can use your point-blank strike, the strongest part of the charge, to the one area where the slags are, not hit all the charge blasts. When they're compiled into one place, you can do that and keep them right there to do more combos and finish off the whole group without chasing the stragglers...if there's any at all. The shock you dealt with Voltedge (which is extremely likely) will have kept them in the bomb explosion, the EV inflicting shock itself when it explodes so they are guaranteed to be trapped where you placed the bomb, rarely do they fling anywhere when you pair the two together, they just synergy so well. Even someone like myself who has done FSC for years find it to be a great boon in reducing the time you spend in the place, if you memorize the spawns, that's even better for EV because bombs are all about knowing spawns.

I don't know what else to say other than that, I've used both Combuster and Voltedge + EV for extended grinding periods with Max CTR and DMG on everything and I can only say that the latter is better here if one is able to afford to do so. Combuster is only seemingly faster since you get out more charges, but unless the enemies are clumped to get the point-blank strike, the damage you deal is significantly lower vs the combo since you need to run around and take care of stragglers every single time. The extra planning just beats the simple spamming in this place. Sorry. :I

EDIT: Yeah, not much point of the back and forthing as we've derailed the topic heavily. Let's just leave things at that.

EDIT 2: I should have just searched a video to show what I meant. This is the current fastest FSC speed run duo record. While it is a duo, the creator of the video soloed rooms on the right side showing how powerful the combo is. A Combuster can't do this by it's lonesome. It can't do it fast, yes, but not as fast as this.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 17:02
#53
Petater's picture
Petater

You can already do point blank on multiple slags without a vortex if you know what you're doing. I can understand if you do vana without sword ctr, but it's very easily done without a vortex. In a group a vortex's use increases, but as solo it has to be much less unless you have no ctr on at all.

I think we're just gonna have to agree to disagree. This has gone on for too many forum posts.

Edit: phone autocorrect is trolling

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:22
#54
Vengance-Ichigo's picture
Vengance-Ichigo
So, hands down I'm getting

So, hands down I'm getting glacius

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 17:39
#55
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Dibsville

If you think Glacius is better, then you had no sword CTR.

Combuster (WITH CTR) > Voltedge > Combuster > Warmaster Rocket Hammer > Divine Avenger > Glacius.

^ Just my opinion on elemental swords.

If you don't plan on getting CTR (such as if you're getting Vog Cub), then go for Glacius if you really want to.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 09:27
#56
Krakob's picture
Krakob

I never said it was easy but Proto Shield with WRH is the best in terms of non-charge DPS if you can do it without getting slaughtered. Still, if your problem is throwing yourself into the fire then yes, Combuster will be more suitable.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 05:28
#57
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Vengance-Ichigo
So, I've decided. P I'm

So, I've decided. P I'm getting a vog set, the grey owlite, and either glacius or the WRH and DR by buying the OCH. So, I'm getting glacius becuz I can freeze enemies, then go behind them and kill (especially for Trojans and almirian guards). So? I guess????

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 08:00
#58
Krakob's picture
Krakob

You guess? Only you can tell us if you guess or if you do not guess.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:18
#59
Vengance-Ichigo's picture
Vengance-Ichigo
Wutever....

K fine.
I'll get glacius
But, is the dread skelly sheild good? It has shadow def, normal def, and quite a lot of health. Its kinda like grey owlite but trades elemental def, fire and shock resist for shadow def, poison, and freeze resist.I know I'm trading that fire resist but what's gonna be more out there in FSC? Undead right? And they deal??? Shadow DMG. So should I go for dread skelly or just go for the normal grey owlite? Opinions? ☺

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:43
#60
Vengance-Ichigo's picture
Vengance-Ichigo
I'm starting to think that I

I'm starting to think that I should've went the skelly way. That's because skelly provides shadow defense and it is not a thing you can get from the sancuatry after the SL. So its cheap. Any ideas bout that too?

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 08:50
#61
Vengance-Ichigo's picture
Vengance-Ichigo
Well, finally, I got a voggy

Well, finally, I got a voggy set, both cap and coat. πŸ˜πŸ˜ƒπŸ˜―πŸ˜…πŸ˜„β˜ΊπŸ˜Š

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 09:53
#62
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Drischa

Please note that while undead do indeed deal shadow damage, they also deal fire status in FSC. It has been proven and discussed multiple times that status resistance is much more important that damage type resistance. Owlite will probably survive more against FSC zombies than dread skelly simply due to it's fire resistance.

If you really want a defensive shield for FSC, get volcanic plate or Omega shell. Volcanic has the normal and stun resistance to withstand ttojan hits and the fire resistance against he other mobs and it can even save you from shadow fire for a teensy bit longer.
Omega shell can take hits because of it's 20% extra health.
Both of them can take a hit from vana's mace on elite, something that no other shields can do (to my knowledge).

I don't know if the new tortodrone shields are any good for FSC, I'm assuming that the stun+shadow resistance on Gorgomega is probably good, but the fire resistance on Omegaward would probably prove more useful for fire traps etc.

Also, people were talking about using brandishes and vortex bombs earlier. wat r u doin. if you want a sword for vortexing get a troika for crying out loud. it only takes ctr med if you can do the shield cancel-switching right.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 10:17
#63
Vengance-Ichigo's picture
Vengance-Ichigo
kay then...

Kay then.... But... OK I got everything else planned but this is the last I guess IMPORTANT note I want to make.
Shall I get a VPS or a GOS?
GOS- more flexible and better for vana
VPS- increased nrml DMG and stun status for Trojans.
So,,,what are your opinions again? πŸ˜‰πŸ±πŸ˜

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 10:34
#64
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Drischa

Complete edit: I was a derp and forgot that GOS is grey owlite.

Get volcanic for vana. it's better for vana. always.

GOS for everything else.

I would still recommend volcanic plate more though.

Edit: The literal only place where owlite would bet better would be for fire constructs+gremlins / shock places.
For poison/freeze/fire/unthemed beasts/slimes/undead/fiends then volcanic plate would be superior.

I'd say that volcanic plate is probably more useful.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 12:02
#65
Vengance-Ichigo's picture
Vengance-Ichigo
All goes to Goodnewsjim

All goes to goodnewsjim for helping me get my vog cap by loaning 26kcr.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 12:02
#66
Vengance-Ichigo's picture
Vengance-Ichigo
All goes to Goodnewsjim

All goes to goodnewsjim for helping me get my vog cap by loaning 26kcr.

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 05:24
#67
Vengance-Ichigo's picture
Vengance-Ichigo
Okay, no answers for VPS vs GOS? other than Drachronos

So as the subject is, any1?
OK. Since I'm getting the battle pack-9500 CE, and the plasmatech bomby set.
Using the CE, I am going to get the sheild you guys think and a glacius. Then I want 1 4* item since I will have 2500 CE left so which 4 star item shall I get?

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 07:22
#68
Krakob's picture
Krakob

Are you intending to buy the items through the suply depot? Don't do that. Craft them instead. It's MUCH cheaper, just takes more time.

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 15:47
#69
Vengance-Ichigo's picture
Vengance-Ichigo
Look krak, what I do is up to

Look krak, what I do is up to me. Regardless, what sword of what damage type-or gun shall I get. I have covered elemental damage and normal garage. I need- shadow damage, and piercing DMG. Wat one shall I go for. Here r my ideas- shadow-acheron and piercing-FF. So? Also for piercing I might get blitzy needle.

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 18:59
#70
Legenddestroyer's picture
Legenddestroyer

Don't be so rude, Krakob is just trying to save you money...

On the other hand, that inventory looks fine.

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 19:14
#71
Shadowstarkirby's picture
Shadowstarkirby
Just some replies...

@Drachronos Brandish is great, if not better than Suda for Vortexing. It's a good hipster alternative though; the charge attack is incredibly awesome and damaging.

@Vengance-Ichigo Venge, Krakob is trying to help you out since you're incapable of helping yourself, so cut the snappy attitude, yeah? You're right, it is your choice to do what you want, but your choice to buy weapons from the depot is a big mistake; it's far more expensive than playing the game and crafting like you're suppose to.

...But, hey, it's your CE, so if that's what you want to do, go ahead, but I guarantee you that you'll regret it when you wish you had more CE for some other item.

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 19:15
#72
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Dibsville

"Look krak, what I do is up to me."

And what you're doing is a terrible idea.

Cost to buy a 5* item off the Supply Depot = 3500 Energy.

Approximate cost to craft a 5* item yourself (taking Material costs into account) = 1650 Energy, plus you have a chance of getting Unique Variants.

Tough choice. Go ahead and buy it from the Supply Depot and waste like $5 worth of Energy.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 04:04
#73
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Sandwich-Potato

I sometimes wonder if Kozma spreads out all the crowns she makes from her extravagant prices and sleeps on it as a bed at night. That's how pricey the SD is. Don't do it.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 05:50
#74
Vengance-Ichigo's picture
Vengance-Ichigo
K,K sorry krak, lolz

Lolz srry krak, but I was just saying, I know all the savings and stuff, but I'm kinda......the impatient and i-wanna-beat-the-game-quickly kinda person. Well, back 2 talk. Well then, I was thinking to get a flourish line/blitz line and an Acheron line. So for the flourish r blitz what shall I go for?
-blitz: locks u in place-dangerous
-nice DMG input
-flourish:can move while attacking
-charge attack is dangerous but can deal a lot.
Ideas?
Oh also VPS vs GOS
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I'm looked through all the posts again and I saw dibsvilles post where he says: my rjp setup, my rt setup, and I went to the FSC one and there I saw....VPS! So, @dibsville, is vps really good for vana or gos since you have both?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 07:12
#75
Drischa's picture
Drischa

How many times do I have to say, Volcanic is the shield you want. If you're really not sure on which shield to take, get an omega shell, they have an extra 20% health on top of any other shield, making is viable just about everywhere. not as useful as a shield suited to the situation, but if you're buying from the supply depot then you'll want to have one shield that covers all to avoid multiple purchases.

I hear that BTB is better than FF for a piercing sword, as the charge is more useful and bypassing 2* crafting through tokens. The recipes are slightly more difficult to get though.
Blitz is useful for FSC but not much else. Unless you know exactly when wolvers will dodge and can hit them with it.

Acheron is also basically the second most powerful shadow weapon right now, so get that.
(most powerful shadow weapon is 4x stacked DRs, if you have bomber gear)

@Shadow*Kirby
I'm aware that brandishes are better, but hell, brandishes are basically the best weapon in the game right now.
I genuinely dislike how almost all normal damage weapons are outclassed. Sure, it can do neutral damage to everything, but bring two special damage weapons and you can do that to everything as well, and do super damage to 2/3 monsters as well. Normal weapons should do more damage than special weapons against neutral enemies, so that normal weapons actually have a use over having 2 special damage weapons.
(I'm surprised you linked me the fsc run when this exists)

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 09:03
#76
Shadowstarkirby's picture
Shadowstarkirby
@Drachronos

I agree completely, haha. I for one love Leviathan and Valiance because of how basic and reliable they both are. It's a shame that normal damage (except in Valiance's [and soon, not even Valiance will be great] and Nitronome's case) suffers from diminishing turns as you get more crowns to get more gear and slots...and with all honesty, that happens as soon as you hit T2, and you only stay in T1 for like a day or two at most if you really like the game, lol...

(Oh wow, that's...even better and more to the point, nice job catching that!)

Anyway! One thing I wanted to point out from your post is that Blitz is actually very much useful in areas like HoI and GitM, where the bosses are absolute damage sponges too (and gunners should always carry one, it's absolutely devastating when you get in the right position and know spawns).

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 08:01
#77
Vengance-Ichigo's picture
Vengance-Ichigo
lol draco ur wrong

Draco, u kinda r rong of the omega shell doing health bonus and that's a lie and actually I don't need that I got a vog set that provides 10% health altogether πŸ˜ƒπŸ˜― u guys dunt know how I do these emotes do you? If you do know I will give you 1k ingame

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 10:34
#78
Drischa's picture
Drischa

The omega shell doesn't give YOU a health boost, it has more health f it's own. When you take a hit, and that blue bar goes down - that's the shield's health. The omega shell has more SHIELD health than any other shield.

Again:
SHIELD health is boosted on omega shell.
YOUR health is boosted by your vog set.

As for the emotes, you simply hold alt and type the number in. For example, alt+1 is ☺.
Either that or you're copypasting from a website.

@Shadow*Kirby
I don't do danger missions regularly yet but I can imagine that the blitz is probably great for the HoI boss.
For GITM however...

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 11:27
#79
Vengance-Ichigo's picture
Vengance-Ichigo
nope. wrong. nice try tho

I use my nexus7 to type on the forum, remember? So at the side of my tablets typepad there is this little happy face where I click and it shows a lot of emotes, clothing, and lots of mini pictures. Here are some.πŸ±πŸ˜ˆπŸ˜΄πŸ˜¨πŸ”°πŸ‘’πŸ‘ŸπŸ”›πŸ”œπŸ”šπŸ”™πŸ”β™Šβ™‹β™Œβ™β™Žβ™β™β™‘β™’β™“
Also, I got a new question for you dudes. What is better Glacius/Combuster (I'm still getting glacius though) vs FOV (Fang Of Vog)
Ideas?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 12:02
#80
Drischa's picture
Drischa

I've never seen where you mentioned that you typed with your tablet. regardless, the emoticons are nothing special really.

The glacius/combuster argument has been discussed to death. Same with your initial question.

You should really research before just posting questions here on the forums.

Here, I'll even make it as easy as clicking a link.

Fang of vog is generally seen as something you just get for the lols, not a serious weapon. it's slower than a brandish and the charge is a risk, however with vog coat you should be ok using it.
It's also fairly difficult to get. Considering you're only just deciding to get Vog coat then perhaps you should put FoV out of your mind for a little while.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 12:44
#81
Vengance-Ichigo's picture
Vengance-Ichigo
um I already decided, glacius,and yepz

K and note:I have been searching google 24/7 and that's why I even made this topic on the forum.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:10
#82
Vengance-Ichigo's picture
Vengance-Ichigo
oh and it might've sounded wrong so

I meant which is better? Glacius/Combuster vs FoV

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 14:04
#83
Krakob's picture
Krakob

I kinda stopped following this thread at the recommendation of Bopp and your somewhat lacking ability to search things but seriously, Bopp linked you to his sword guide 80 posts ago and it answers most questions you can have about choice of swords. Did you actually read it?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 17:03
#84
Prominis-Alt
*Krakob

Alright, i'm going to try to answer your question, so let's take a look back.

First there's
"I do not know which path to choose: Vog, Snarby, or the Skolver set (pretty sure not goin' for Skolver, though)" (post #1)
and in bopp's guide, there's a neat section called 'Armor, Shields, Trinkets, Perks' in which it says this:
"New players should focus on these options:
Vog Cub: Decent offense. Strong defense, because ASI aids defense, and elemental and fire threats are prevalent, especially in Firestorm Citadel.
Skolver: Stronger offense, because blanket damage bonuses cannot be achieved through UVs. Mediocre defense, because piercing is arguably the least important damage protection, and freeze often has little practical value.
Chaos: Outstanding, overpowered offense. Terrible defense, because of the status weaknesses. Skill and/or status UVs are required."

Next, he asks about what swords and guns to get. (post #1, 6, 8, etc.)
Coincidentially, there is also a part in bopp's sword guide called 'Piercing, Elemental, Shadow' which goes on to discuss the swords, and Bopp's personal opinion of which ones are better for what. It has a comparison of the different brandish paths, FOV, and all that stuff he ended up asking about later

"I meant which is better? Glacius/Combuster vs FoV" (post #79, 82)
the above was already answered under the 'Elemental Swords' section of Bopp's guide, as well as previously in this very thread

"Also is Acheron better than the obsidian edge r wut?" (post #12)
Wow, amazing! Did you know there was a section called 'Shadow Swords' in Bopp's guide too? What an amazing addition! Can you guess what it discusses?

Does Acheron do split normal/shadow DMG? (post #17)
... and this is also answered in Bopp's sword guide. Under the section called 'Summary of Swords', it says that Acheron is 'shad + norm', or shadow and normal. Also, simply searching it up on the wiki would've answered the above question.

Additionally, something that mildly irritates me (and is pretty much why i posted here) was that he asked a bunch of questions, and often ignored the suggestions he asked for or tried to insult/prove wrong the people who answered him
eg. took glacius over everything else despite combuster/voltedge being recommended, saying bopp's guide didn't have the info he was asking for (complete lie, except maybe for the gun part, but there's also a gunslinger guide), telling Drach that he was wrong twice after Drach tried to be helpful and answer his questions (about emoticons, and omega shield), took full vog over split like what bopp and some others recommended, told krakob that what he did is his business despite this thread just being him asking a bunch of questions, etc.
Makes me wonder if he actually did search everything up, or check bopp's guide tons of (he said millions, but i assume it's hyperbole) times.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 02:28
#85
Krakob's picture
Krakob

Wow, he was worse than I thought.
/applaud

Now to never set foot in this thread again.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 04:02
#86
Sandwich-Potato's picture
Sandwich-Potato

I don't know what's going on. So I decided to link a video of this.

Now, to never set foot in this thread again.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 06:12
#87
Vengance-Ichigo's picture
Vengance-Ichigo
look, I did read it ok?

I did read it like 20 times again and again but bopp's guide didn't say why. I like good reasons. He did say on some, like for vog, decent offense etc, but I read other topics like this and I searched a lot for the past month and watching videos about them over and over such as Chawkthree's 5* demo's on YouTube and guess what? My band with has gone a lot up, this is not normal for me. So, whether you believe it or not I am going thru posts and finding stuff, reading them, then i make my own pros and con's and get what I want. Going thru others and this forum, I have got a vog set and I am going to get a VPS, after all my research. Also I think a swiftstrike will do since I plan to get a DA or GF. I have been searching and watching videos etc but if you wanna A guess that I'm not go ahead. I said this b4, but I got a full vog now.
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Anyways, I plan on getting Acheron and a swifty I guess since I am making a Da/Gf.
β˜ΊπŸ˜ŠπŸ˜€πŸ˜πŸ˜‚πŸ˜ƒπŸ˜„πŸ˜… you know wat? I love making these.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 06:21
#88
Vengance-Ichigo's picture
Vengance-Ichigo
Oh and look un-idiot I

Oh and look un-idiot I ACTUALLY READ ON OTHER forum topics of the same one. Glacius vs Combuster and most people said fire does not do anything in FSC so get glacius and If you are poor to get a shiver, get glacius and voltege, u need to do a lot of LD and trust me, I suck hard on that and that's why I didn't get skolver oh and the reason I didn't get 1 piece of snarb and 1 piece of vog is that snarby requires SL and the purple thingy and the Sl key was 1,800 CE and I couldn't afford that so I put my 3500 CE into a vog set. I mean I could afford, that, but I would have less to get my cap since I had lvl 10 ash coat and lvl 8 ash cap but in a week I turned both to a vog set and I was clean, out of CE. Well, I did have a bit so I put it on a wep slot upgrade for laterz.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 06:24
#89
Vengance-Ichigo's picture
Vengance-Ichigo
Oh and look Un-Idiot that's

Oh and look Un-Idiot that's all a lie-the things u said I did everything I could. :'(

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 06:46
#90
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Halandin
@Shadowstarkirby: I imagine

@Shadowstarkirby: I imagine that the fastest time for FSC now is a lot slower since the one-way gates were added, you can't just run in and grab the sprites anymore, you have to kill all of the enemies first, which would make faster killing of slags with a vortex even more important.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 08:58
#91
Shadowstarkirby's picture
Shadowstarkirby
Some replies...

@Drachronos I actually forgot that video (you can obviously see that I don't frequent Youtube often, haha), it makes me like Neutralizer even more. Thank yee for that!

@Halandin It definitely is (not to mention that video was also SK classic, so it's validity isn't as strong as today when you have Elite mode), I wouldn't be surprised if it took a little more over 5 minutes in D25 thanks to those gates, maybe another extra 3 minutes to enemies tankiness.

@Vengeance-Ichigo Bopp and I linked you to two different guides. Bopp's guide lists everything for you, and in fact I'd argue that it's better than the links I gave you. You're wondering about Brandishes (yet again) and FoV now. Here's what he felt about it:

"Among the three Brandishes, Glacius' freeze is useful for crowd control, and it does some damage upon thawing, but it hinders kiting, shield-bumping, and knockback. Voltedge's shock disrupts monsters somewhat, and it does some damage, especially since shock does area-damage to close monsters. Combuster's fire is useful for extra damage, but offers no crowd control. Freeze and shock can prevent a monster from riding the entire charge attack for full damage; fire does not have this defect. Although the monsters in Firestorm Citadel are largely immune to fire, FoV and the Combuster charge still do damage β€” just not status."

What he said in his opinion, was that Combuster is the easiest and of the strongest (WRH coming close as a competitor, but harder to use). FoV is situational, and honestly not that great because it's normal swings are terribad.

...I'll give you this though, a lot of threads back then DID say that Glacius was better, but that was way back in 2011-2012 (which I can tell you've been looking at because you've also been necroposting). You should look at the timestamps and make sure you're viewing 2013-2014, while some info is valid back then, the meta changes overtime. Not to mention, I MYSELF explained why Combuster was better in FSC by it's lonesome in post #39, but it didn't seem like you grasped what I said. In further posts, it doesn't seem like you're grasping anything anyone is saying because you repeat questions over and over.

Just...go play the game and make your own decisions. We're fine helping out, but you don't need our feedback all the time. If you want Glaicus? Cool? You want a Gran Faust, great? Want VPS and Swiftstrike? fantastic. Just do it! Cause even when we tell you, you're already ready to ask another question on where you're suppose to go. We're not suppose to hold your hand, we're suppose to guide you to better choices, and some choices you should be confident in making them yourself.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 08:54
#92
Vengance-Ichigo's picture
Vengance-Ichigo
Combuster v Glacius, dangit.

Actually, this is a hard choice but I have picked Glacius I'm sorry but this is my desicion if I do change my mind ill tell u guys k?

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 09:06
#93
Shadowstarkirby's picture
Shadowstarkirby
...I'm done

It's like...you DO read, but if it's anything larger than a paragraph, you don't comprehend whatever is written.

Helping you, or rather, trying to help you is pointless.

Whatever points I and anyone else makes goes over your head into some black hole of oblivion.

I advise anyone else whose kept up with this thread to not bother posting anything more.

Anyone else who stumbled upon this thread that wants to post, don't.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 10:02
#94
Vengance-Ichigo's picture
Vengance-Ichigo
Dude, I picked glacius

Dude, I picked glacius

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 10:03
#95
Vengance-Ichigo's picture
Vengance-Ichigo
And I did read ur thing I

And I did read ur thing I prefer crowd control so ya

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 12:47
#96
Prominis-Alt
you seem confused

You seem confused as to why he said he was 'done'. Now I don't know for sure, but I think it's because he spends his time, writing paragraphs upon paragraphs of helpful advice and comparisons, and you pretty much just go "Nope, I'll just take what he doesn't recommend." Now, I understand that it's your choice, and he's just giving an opinion, but what's the point of asking the question if you're not going to listen to their answer? That can make it very frustrating for anyone who's trying to help. As I said before, you've done this a few times already.

Also, about what you said about Bopp's guide, again it pretty much answered all of your questions on gear and swords (see my previous post for a few examples). I'm not quite sure what it might've been missing, save for your questions on guns, but it is a 'sword' guide for a reason. I fail to see what it doesn't cover, and you don't actually say what it misses. You just say that you've read it over and over (yet somehow miss the information you're looking for) and say that you watch videos that each up your bandwidth. You also state that you've 'learned' from searching through year old forum topics and looking up videos, and somehow, I'm not quite sure. For one, you chose to go full vog, and while that isn't bad, it was recommended several times not to go full vog as your first set, as it only gives elemental defense, while if you went half-half, you would've gotten two defenses, and a bigger variety of status resistances. Then again, it's your choice, ignore all of the advice people give you.

As for what you said about running through a shadow lair (since you seem to hate skolver), you could have asked on the forums (instead of all these questions) if anyone would be willing to help you run through the shadow lair, and help you with your set. There are lots of helpful people on these forums, like the others who've been answering your repeated questions. And also, a lot of parties split the cost, so it's more like 450 energy each person. Compared to straight off buying a 5* piece of equipment off the supply depot, that's saving you 2750 energy. Maybe take 1000 out of that for sparks (200 for 10 sparks) you might need for the shadow lair, and eternal orbs (800 for 3) if you didn't already have them, and you'd still have 1750 left. You'd also have to buy the mats for the snarby piece, but I'm pretty sure that's less expensive than 1750 energy. Y'know, just maybe.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 12:57
#97
Vengance-Ichigo's picture
Vengance-Ichigo
I see that he is helping

I see that shadow*kirby, dibsville, and all of you are helping and whether you believe it or not, I am learning from them but the reason I got full vog is because Chawkthree, said I should get a full vog as my set and not trying to be mean or anything but he has loads of armor and is more experienced and I am listening to him on that one. For the Combuster V Glacius topic, that has been discussed and I said hands down, I'm getting glacius and I was about to get Combuster but then lots of forum threads said glacius was better for the "strategical" people and its really good for Crowd-Control and I am a crowd control master (lolz) since using my giga. Also if you guys are thinking about "blocking the path" in vana I've got that covered cuz I would charge atk using levi or use giga to push enemies outta the way and I think of that too, and believe it or not, even though I said hands down glacius I am still thinking bout it. You know, I'm one of those ppl who r really "indesicive" but I listened to the other stuff shadow*kirby said like not get a callahan, etc.

Also, guys, plz don't listen to what shadowstarkirby said like...2 posts ago.
I advise anyone else who has kept up with this thread to not bother posting anymore.
Anyone else who stumbled apon this thread and wants to post, don't.

I am really in need of answers and...I admit I kinda am a little..... Snappy and weird but pls. All I want is a nice load out for FSC. Got anything to reccomend to me? Post. Any answers about Glacius V Combuster? Post. Well, that's all I gotta say but if your fed up me to death like shadowstar just go onto a different thread don't bother.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:07
#98
Sandwich-Potato's picture
Sandwich-Potato

Combuster is actually usually better for crowd control, which is something you desire. Derp.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:15
#99
Vengance-Ichigo's picture
Vengance-Ichigo
thought you said you would never set foot in this forum again

Well, thx I guess. Now to write that in my pros and con's book under Glacius V Combuster topic.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 18:29
#100
Dibsville's picture
Dibsville

"Well, thx I guess. Now to write that in my pros and con's book under Glacius V Combuster topic."

Pros of Combuster:
β€’ It sets things on fire
β€’ Its status doesn't get in the way of party-play
β€’ It has great crowd control due to the fact it has knockback 100% of the time

Cons of Combuster:
β€’ It lights Oilers, which die to it quickly anyway so it doesn't really matter
β€’ It can knock enemies out of a Vortex

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Pros of Glacius:
β€’ It's blue

Cons of Glacius:
β€’ It freezes enemies in place, allowing them to smack you for tons of damage while you can't do anything to fight back
β€’ It can freeze enemies around your teammates, killing them
β€’ It does terrible overall damage compared to Voltedge/Combuster
β€’ It re-freezes Ice Cubes, which die to it quickly anyway so it doesn't really matter
β€’ Ice gets broken as soon as the enemy is hit, making it almost pointless on most fast weapons, Glacius being one of them (except in extremely situational situations)

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If you were so dead-set on getting Glacius, then you should have gotten Voltedge instead.

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