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Thu, 03/13/2014 - 14:53
Nova-Buster

Hey everyone,
So this started to happen a while ago, but lockdown is becoming unfair now a days. There is one word to describe this situation, TRINKETS!!!!! God damn trinkets. Its just unfair to the people who are to poor to get trinkets or just don't play as often, then the trinkets run out. I mean that I don't play as much now because I would spend a bunch of crowns for a slot and play for like 5 days. I don't think thats worth it. My personal solution would be banning trinkets in LD, so that everyone would be equal and only the heavy armor get the boost. All strikers should have the same health, unless you have heavy armor. Same thing for the rest of the classes. I'm sure their are plenty of people having the same problems. So please come up with a solution.

Good Bye Knights!
/Salute

Nova-Buster

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:17
#1
Retequizzle's picture
Retequizzle

it's 300 CE a month to maintain trinkets

that's approximately 3 FSC runs if you don't skip everything, or 6 JK runs if you're T2

you factor in that you get orbs in these runs, and really it's self sustaining off of very little effort

the game's not designed solely for lockdown, and now that elevators have been free forever, there's really no excuse for people not to bother with trinkets anymore, even if you are dying enough to warrant using one or two sparks a run

it really is that simple

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:39
#2
Whimsicality's picture
Whimsicality

guess what's more expensive than trinkets

5* gear that's fully heated

heck, even 5* gear that's UNHEATED is more expensive than a 5* trinket

5* trinkets don't need heat

lockdown isn't supposed to be taken so seriously, so tread carefully, fellow casual

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 17:02
#3
Klipik-Forum's picture
Klipik-Forum

Believe it or not, trinkets are the only things keeping heavy swords (and acheron lol) from being completely and totally overpowered in T3. without them you could get two-hit kills on everyone and most other weapons would be bad in comparison.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 17:09
#4
Seiran's picture
Seiran
ohoho

#strikerproblems

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 18:13
#5
Fallconn's picture
Fallconn

Lockdown is fair, people earn their stuff and beat the crap out of people who haven't yet. Welcome to lockdown.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 04:53
#6
Finale-Flare's picture
Finale-Flare
You think LD would be better

You think LD would be better without trinkets?

Bac in the day, when skelly armor derps and people who used sudaruska seriously roamed the battlefield, trinkets did not exist. You could be recon and 2 hit ANY striker. As an ASH TAIL.

You need trinkets to excel at LD for the mostt lart. And after making them, maintenance is very cheap.

People should not conform to your problems, especially if you expect to excel when playing 5x a month. Be a little less self centered, LD doesnt revolve around you or anyone else Nova Buster.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 10:53
#7
Krakob's picture
Krakob

Trinkets suck because they wreck the balance between classes in LD but just as Seiran said, they're cheap. It's not an awful lot of pay to win.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 13:28
#8
Thurderwing's picture
Thurderwing
Welcome to my life nova. ;.;

Welcome to my life nova. ;.;

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 13:35
#9
Klipik-Forum's picture
Klipik-Forum

Trinkets destroy the balance between classes, but I'd rather have one overpowered, skill-based class than three balanced ones that are only balanced because they all die in three hits.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 06:57
#10
Tempas's picture
Tempas
You don't need trinkets to

You don't need trinkets to excel in lockdown, end of story. Like honest, with trinkets you can tank 2 heavy hits, without you can tank 1 heavy hit. Such a difference. You know there's this one valuable skill that you should know of, maybe you heard of it. It's called DODGING. I've been playing around with fencing jacket and some bucket helm(1* gear) and trinkets which brings me up to roughly about 5* striker without trinkets hp(setting aside that you get better bonuses as a 5* striker) and I can do roughly 15-20k in that setup with a bunch of caps. So it's not exactly a deal breaker if you can't afford them..

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 07:28
#11
Son-Of-Hades's picture
Son-Of-Hades
What game have you been

What game have you been playing? lol trinkets are like the most important piece of gear in LD. No trinkets = die in one, lucky GF combo

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 07:47
#12
Seiran's picture
Seiran
#strikerproblems

Trinkets destroy the balance between classes, but I'd rather have one overpowered, skill-based class than three balanced ones that are only balanced because they all die in three hits.

Not really...

The other classes benefit more from non-health trinkets. Like, two speed trinkets and now EVERY SWORD IS ULTRA ASI (alternatively, gun: High) for a guardian, EVERY GUN IS MAX ASI (or alternatively, sword: High) for recon. The main things they'd lack in comparison to striker is chase ability and 3-4 levels of sword stats (depending on whether you're guardian or recon), which really goes down to losing 1 extra attack to kill.

People like the OP assume that "trinkets" = "health trinkets". Yeah, if you're going for an "optimized" loadout, you go with +4 damage gear, a damage trinket, a health trinket, and use UVs to deal with ASI, but in the general case, the health trinket is only a bonus for non-striker classes.
Give recon or guardian health trinkets and they just become meatier damage food. Give them damage or speed trinkets, and they become safer, more mobile, more dangerous.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 02:56
#13
Sirkeeghan's picture
Sirkeeghan
If we didn't have trinkets

If we didn't have trinkets then we would all get one banged, the first swing of the GF can take out a non trinket user.

all weapons would need to be re balanced if they removed HP trinks.

tbh re balance is good.

lookin at you blitz needle.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 07:05
#14
Tempas's picture
Tempas
Have you guys ever heard of

Have you guys ever heard of this thing called dodging ? If you're a good player you shouldn't need health trinks to perform well because you should be able to dodge people's attacks. Its not by far the most important piece of LD gear in my opinion either. And you can't get 1 hit from GF without trinkets unless you wear dusker or something that's 3* so /shrug

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 08:44
#15
Scirio's picture
Scirio
You on drugs?Without trinks

You on drugs?

Without trinks this game is almost unplayable. You can dodge all you want, 2 hits and it's over.

Even if you survive and kill a player, if you took 1 hit you gotta run back and heal so other people don't 1-shot you.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 11:05
#16
Tempas's picture
Tempas
Try playing without trinks...

Try playing without trinks... It's quite possible. I've hit up to 25k without trinks. If you think about it, all that trinks do is add you enough resistance for 1 more hit. It allows you to survive 1 more which isn't spectacularly that much. That's when talking sword wise though and is a completely different story when it comes to guns.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 11:19
#17
Feyi-Feyi's picture
Feyi-Feyi

Likewise, I have +25k score without trinks.
It's possible, and would be even more possible if nobody had trinks.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 11:40
#18
Krakob's picture
Krakob
@Feyi

Well actually, it would be harder. If nobody had trinkets, you would get 2*6*40 (two trinkets, six pips, 40 health per pip) damage less per enemy. That's 480 damage.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 11:43
#19
Tempas's picture
Tempas
I actually went online today

I actually went online today just to see if I could hit around the 20kish again without trinks. Second game and BOOM! 20.7k damage.. So trinks are not essential really, or at least health trinks aren't in my opinion. Also one thing I noticed is that GF(or FF, not sure) does roughly 59% damage to me in my shadow set so if you were using just one health trink you could tank 2 gf(or ff) hits and be pretty much alive. So double pentas aren't exactly that useful either. Any who, that's my findings for now.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 12:11
#20
Finale-Flare's picture
Finale-Flare
^Thats not completely

^Thats not completely dependent on trinkets though.

I had a match where i had ancient plate mail and vog helm.

23k dmg.

With heart trinkets. Very lame damage, but the point im getting at is the other team sucked BadLY.

So yeah, it iisnt all about trinkets.

However, in a game with high tiered players, you will get your *&/% destroyed if you have no trinkets. Like, the other team will literally take your %*#& and destroy you with it.

Yeah, so......guns.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 12:34
#21
Feyi-Feyi's picture
Feyi-Feyi

I meant playing the game, not the damage Krakob. I couldn't care less about big numbers but sadly they're the easiest way to convey how the game went.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 18:14
#22
Sho-Marufuji's picture
Sho-Marufuji
How about...

How about we deal with it or better yet get trinkets ourselves?

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