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Fri, 03/14/2014 - 12:18
Glacies's picture
Glacies

Discussion about the Equinox Prize Box and its said contents. Update notes can be found Here.

Why is OOO going back to 80% chance of having a Ticket?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 12:39
#1
Bamzalot's picture
Bamzalot
Dat Shield, dat armor, dat everything!

I want it all! Especially that shield! I saw in another post, it seems to be quite unique. Shadow and Piercing defense. The costumes and accessories also look amazing. This is definitely going to be one of my favorite Prize Box events!

Hopefully I will be able to get a full set. Armor, helm, shield, and a few accessories. Hey, I did it with the Dangerous sets, I can do it with this!

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 12:42
#2
Klipik-Forum's picture
Klipik-Forum

The first thing I think of is, why are they offering a unique shield in this promo that is completely unobtainable by anyone else and is not a reskin/remodel, but instead a completely new, different shield? Seems unfair to anyone who is F2P and wants a Piercing/Shadow shield.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 12:49
#3
Glacies's picture
Glacies

I thought the same think, Klipik, the Shield is something I want desperately but am not going to be throwing away $200 just to hopefully get something that I probably would use outside of cosmetic means.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 12:54
#4
Jabbzz's picture
Jabbzz
Feeling a bit ripped off to be honest

I just bought 2 boxes, and 1 gave me a 1 Variant ticket and the other gave me a 2 Variant ticket. This is ridiculous, I just spent $20 and you give me Variant tickets? Until these chance percentages are more fairly balanced, its better just to buy the costumes and etc off of AH xD

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 13:26
#5
Megawatt-King's picture
Megawatt-King
The costumes look nice, but

The costumes look nice, but I'm frowning on the shield having unique stats and being exclusive to premium players. While it doesn't have ridiculous stats, I'm afraid SK is going to become more p2w than it already is by introducing more of this kind of content.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 13:34
#6
Vanbamf's picture
Vanbamf
wow

The Hunter Prize box promotion had similar percentages, but more items with a 35% chance to drop something of value. That promo went over so well. This one beats that with a 20% chance to drop something of value. I already paid for 2 uv tickets with the Hunter box. Congratulations to those that obtain the new / unique shield. My goal of completing the arsenal has now become unreachable.
I'll pass on this.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 13:34
#7
Poomph's picture
Poomph
DAMMIT OOO

You finally make another hybrid damage shield, and it's near impossible to obtain!? WHY.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 13:42
#8
Sirkeeghan's picture
Sirkeeghan
Poomph

I know them feels

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 13:46
#9
Draycos's picture
Draycos

>Exclusive, uniquely statted shield that you have to gamble for (at least OCH was 100% guaranteed)
>80% chance of getting a ticket instead of the advertised cosmetics
>46% chance of getting a ticket that only gives you a single UV

What are you doing?

No, seriously, what's with you guys and gambleboxes?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 13:45
#10
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Konradin

What Jabbzz said. Now, it's entirely my fault that I didn't read properly before buying, but the bad feeling stays.

I would have skipped the promo had I realised the odds to get anything but a ticket, but the tiny chance to get that sweet shield made me buy before taking the time to think ... Lesson learned.

(Now speaking of that Hunter promo ... does anyone still have an unbound Hunter Brigandine lying around that they want to part with? Anyone?)

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 13:56
#11
Bitsbee's picture
Bitsbee

This seems like false advertising...Which is also sueable for...

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 14:44
#12
Autofire's picture
Autofire
You are experiencing a PICNIC ERROR!

Wow I was all like "That stuff looks so cool! This is the coolest thing yet!"

And then I saw those chances. At first I thought they meant "In addition, you can also get Tickets!"

When I saw this thread, I had to look at the wiki page a bit closer.

OOO, you need to be slapped because you're in your wrong mind. The only thing that makes it not so bad is that you get these boxes with purchases rather than with energy. I was planning on buying energy soon, anyway, but that's the only reason I'll actually get to open a box...

I'd rather take another one of your promos any day. I'll probably just get a free UV. (But I don't mind that because many of my 5* items aren't UVd anyway.)

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 14:50
#13
Shidara's picture
Shidara
Why...

Three Rings, you're horrible.

Why for the love of all things good and holy would you crush 80% of the drop-ratio with tickets? When we make a purchase for the boxes, we want the new exclusive contents, not a UV ticket that's only going to give us Damage Bonus versus Construct: Low or sell for a fraction of the price we paid on the market.

I am not supportive of this model at all. I've said it before and I'll say it again, I am of the opinion that when you release promo boxes like these they should only contain exclusive content. Hogging them with miscellaneous items like this only makes it a gamble trying to get any of the new items, and I thought with the previous promos that we had finally moved away from that. Clearly, I was mistaken.

And to make matters worse, you've included a 1% chance for a unique (not a re-skin like The Bitter End) shield that is unobtainable outside of these boxes. I expected better of you by now.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 14:57
#14
Megawatt-King's picture
Megawatt-King
>Shidara

>we want the new exclusive contents
Speak for yourself, I don't want kids waggling a 100% curse chance flourish because they bought it with their parents' credit card.

Unless you're just talking about cosmetic only or reskins...

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 15:03
#15
Finale-Flare's picture
Finale-Flare
@Bitsbeee False advertising

@Bitsbeee
False advertising would be if they advertised the new stuff but had a 0% chance of getting it.

Also, itss just a shield. They made the tortodro.e shields EASILY available to F2Pers (I am f2p, but i didnt get one anyways).

The new shield is just a shield, and kinda helps by showing who is P2P an F2P.

Be happy we got the sweet tortodro.e shields and not some useless shadow/piercing shield that can only be used viably in UGWW.

Dem wings tho

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 15:13
#16
Jabbzz's picture
Jabbzz
What doesnt kill you only makes you. . stranger

The real issue here is that you have to actually pay with real money for a box WITH an 80% chance for a UV ticket of some sort. Now this would be fine if you could just get the boxes in game, like the Hallow or Impostoclause event. But people are using real money here, and some of us actually mind dropping $200. But simply OOO is saying its your decision if you wanna gamble at this or not. No one is making you press that purchase button /shrug

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 15:24
#17
Drischa's picture
Drischa

Honestly, When I saw this promo, I thought it was the best one yet.

Then I actually looked into it.

Three rings, the only way you can save this promo right now is to lower drop chances for tickets. Otherwise you're gonna miss out on a bunch of purchases.

I'm tempted to jsut buy a package and use the CE to buy one off the AH. it seems safer. and there's a VERY SLIGHT chance I might get something cool. A VERY SLIGHT CHANCE. SLIGHT CHANCE IS NOT ENOUGH FOR A PURCHASE.

Seriously Three Rings. We're giving you our money here. This is meant to be a family-friendly game right? I'm pretty sure gambling isn't for younger audiences? Because this really is a gamble.

If this happens again then my previous high regard for Three rings as a company will be pretty much demolished.

EDIT: Not that it matters. I'm just one player after all, why would they ever listen to me? They'll still have money flooding in from people who want to roll UVs on their overpowered brandishes while I sit here with my sudaruska that's out-dps'd by Acheron against UNDEAD FFS OOO WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH THIS GAME THAT I JUST WANT TO LOVE

EDIT 2: I'm not fussed about the shield. It has no status resistances, which instantly makes it redundant in all practicality and is just a costume item, since defence is still completely unbalanced.
I just want one of the costume armours. Oh hey, last time with the warden promo I also wanted an armour. Guess what I got? Two helmets.

Y'know, A really good way to do it would be that you're certain to get one armour and one helm, and make the chances for getting extras much less. I'd totally throw money at every promotion if that happened. But that ain't gonna happen either.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 15:19
#18
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Whimsicality

They did the same bloody thing with the Solstice event.

Oddly enough, don't you think the "Equinox" event would have an EQUAL chance for everything?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 15:19
#19
Flowchart's picture
Flowchart

I'll just wait until it inevitably shows up on the supply depot.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 15:20
#20
Skepticraven's picture
Skepticraven
↓

I got three word for everyone complaining about paying real money for a chance at these items.

Iron Dragon Wings.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 15:26
#21
Draycos's picture
Draycos

IDW's are a little different. I think that steam promo was to get people to play different games.

Even so... The chances of getting a "high tier" item were astronomically low, but you were guaranteed to get SOMETHING.

Meanwhile, in this, you have huge odds of getting a cr-substitute item.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 15:37
#22
Melonfish's picture
Melonfish
It's worse than that.

How can a player just safely decide when to make purchases without missing out on promotions in this manner? I fell victim of mistimed purchases twice due to new ones coming out of the blue without any hints of appearing in such a short delay. This is terrible.

This is nowhere near a reasonable practice for the market. I strongly urge myself to ask what is going on, but I don't fancy making the effort only to be told nothing clear about it. And this is simply on the topic of getting the boxes on my own, please don't get me started on the rest.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 16:14
#23
Shidara's picture
Shidara
@Megawatt-King

I was not even referring to the fact there were actual equipment in that until later in my post, which should not even be there in the first place. At least The Bitter End was only a reskin.

I was saying that when they release promo boxes, they should contain the items that pertain to that particular promo and not miscellaneous items that have nothing to do with it, in this case UV tickets. As I was saying, we want the new promo items, not subsitutes for a marginal amount of crowns versus the price in real currency we spent on it. If I were to buy an Equinox Prize Box, I want the Equinox items, like the Celestial Nav items, the Celestial Guardian items, the Sun or Moon Crests, the Solar or Cosmic Plasma Wings or the Orbit Aura. What I don't want is a UV ticket that might earn me 15-200K crowns or get me a Gremlin: Low on my Hail Driver. That is the point I'm trying to make.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 16:47
#24
Arcknightdelta's picture
Arcknightdelta
hmm...

Ok honestly I don't see why everyone is so upset. First of all the stuff looks pretty good. Not my sort of thing but I can see they may be appealing to some. The celestial armour kind of reminds me of this guy. The crests.....still think winter and summer are the best in game.

Now the shield. OOO it looks amazing. Really cool. Piercing and Shadow.....hmm....as someone who does FSC 24/7 it's useless to me. People have already mentioned how lucky us f2p guys were with the Tortodone shields. But see how fast things wear off. Watch when a new set of gear comes out. All this will be in the past.

Only way this shield would be useful to someone if they got it would be to sell it on. I heard they sell for 50kce now?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 16:50
#25
Melonfish's picture
Melonfish
Don't get the people wrong.

The costumes, shield and accessories do look pretty darned cool. They simply don't warrant the low obtaining rate they are hidden behind.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 17:00
#26
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Arilys

Shidara saying all that's needed to close the thread yet again. :p

@Arcknightdelta

The problem isn't the promo itself or the shield/costumes/accessories. Those are actually pretty nifty and I wouldn't mind getting them eventually.

The problem with this whole thing is the CHANCES that we have to get a costume/shield/accessory. This is from the Wiki page with the Promo's details.

"1% chance for one of the following:
Solar Plasma Wings
Cosmic Plasma Wings
Celestial Shield
Orbit Aura
19% chance for one of the following:
Celestial Nav Helm
Celestial Nav Suit
Galactic Guardian Helm
Galactic Guardian Vest
Sun Crest
Moon Crest
10% chance for 3 Variant Ticket
24% chance for 2 Variant Ticket
46% chance for 1 Variant Ticket
Each Equinox Prize Box also includes at least 1 Equinox Confetti item."

Would you actually feel good spending cash on Energy because of the boxes to end up getting a lame UV Ticket that will most likely NOT get you a fraction of the money you spent? I, for one, will pass. Too bad, though, I guess my goal of getting all the gear in the game goes down the drain, all because I can't get the one shield that's not a reskin and has a BS chance of "dropping" from a Prize Box!

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 17:00
#27
Shidara's picture
Shidara
@Arcknightdelta

Are you kidding me? This stuff looks amazing! I absolutely want it, and would gladly drop some money to get it!

If,

as Melonfish said, they weren't hidden behind a 4/5 chance of getting a UV ticket which I absolutely do not want out of a $9.95 purchase.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 17:05
#28
Arcknightdelta's picture
Arcknightdelta
@ Arilys

I know mate. I'm just sharing my opinion. Saying I'm not too fussed is all. Good promo but nothing I would really want.

Chances are lame. But hey what can you do right? OOO can't just up and shuffle some numbers around now. What about all the guys who already paid?

Edit: I'm trying to be as positive as I can. There will be other promos. This one....well.....you know.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 17:11
#29
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Melonfish
No beating around this one.

OOO can't just up and shuffle some numbers around now.
Someone give me one single reason with the slightest remote sense and justification why OOO would not.

What about all the guys who already paid?
What about the time I bought energy short of a few days prior to the last Solstice event? What about this one? What about the Flash Sales?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 17:27
#30
Arcknightdelta's picture
Arcknightdelta
sigh.....

Oh man. Seems like this thread is going to fill with explosions. Nothing changes.....

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 17:37
#31
Melonfish's picture
Melonfish
Re: Nothing changes.

To an extent, that's exactly why. I hope this wasn't too vague.

Sat, 07/26/2014 - 19:39
#32
Cinoa's picture
Cinoa

.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 18:01
#33
Bitsbee's picture
Bitsbee

“What's it like to open a promo box?”

In my experience, a big slap to the face.

Dangerous Prize Box Promo. Get a sweet looking Recon Ranger Helmet, Armor, Shield, or Anti-Personnel Spikes!
What'd I get? A small Crest. A Crest worth very little than the Energy used to purchase the Box.

Obsidian Prize Box Promo. Get a cool Hood, Armor, Wings, or Crown with also a chance to get a Shadow Accessory!
What'd I get? An Obsidian Hood of Sight(least popular of the 4 Colors at that time) & Shadow Maid Headband.

Ancient Prize Box Promo. Get an awesome looking(to me) re-skin of Helmets, Armor, Accessories, Aura, or Power Pistons!
What'd I get? Serene Sallet(least popular of the three helmets from what I've heard at least) & Ancient Maid Headband.(2 seperate Boxes)

The only reason I got the Prize Boxes though, were because they were ontainable through the Supply Depot instead of having to shell out $9.95 for one(excluding Ancient Prize Boxes. I got 2 of them for purchasing the Battle Pack with Bing Rewards). Why did they ever stop doing that?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 18:34
#34
Addy's picture
Addy
You realize that you're

You realize that you're paying $9.95 for an energy purchase AND the box comes free, right? You definitely received more than just the box. D:

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 18:37
#35
Cinoa's picture
Cinoa
@Addy

Wow actually I just realized that. So in that sense, if you don't get the item(s) you want from the box, you can pawn the CE off on someone for it(them)

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 18:38
#36
Addy's picture
Addy
What I normally do is buy the

What I normally do is buy the energy/box, sell the box when it's at its peak, and use the money+newly obtained crowns to buy the item I want once that price has dipped.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 18:40
#37
Shidara's picture
Shidara
@Addy

Yeah, I do realize. But I am purchasing energy for the contents of the box, not for the energy. When all I get is a UV ticket I am going to be greatly disappointed, because I could very easily just buy one for 20K crowns in-game rather than spending $9.95 on it and some energy.

One could argue that you could just use the energy you purchased to trade for the actual promo items, but guess what? We've had several promos where we did not gamble against odds of getting something completely unrelated, like the Rose Regalia amongst others. Why would they do this now that we've been having such a good streak of reasonably fair promos up until now?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:17
#38
Poothis's picture
Poothis
Why?

I don't really care much for the costume armors, but that shield? I want it because it looks fantastic. But I'm a free to play person and now I'll never get one because I don't have like 400k crowns to buy it off someone and it would take me like a year to get that kind of money...

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:48
#39
Angzek
I feel ripped off

Used $20 for only 2 boxes and didnt got any costumes, only 2 tickets and 4 confetti. I'd say $20 is worth more than that, OOO is getting too greedy

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:10
#40
The-Worst-Knight's picture
The-Worst-Knight
Anyway i don't understand why

Anyway i don't understand why knights celebrate equinox and solstice. It's not the Earth, it's the Cradle. I had never seen night here.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:57
#41
Rekkusu's picture
Rekkusu
bluuuuuuuuuugggghhh

This whole UV ticket thing is lame, honestly I would pay 60 dollars for the shield BUT there is no way I'm paying 60 dollars for a slim chance for the shield.
They should have made the boxes cost like $2.45 per box if they were gonna make it so 80% of them were trash.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 04:19
#42
Shamanalah's picture
Shamanalah
my 2 cents

What have we learned from OOO? Flowchart said it best and let me quote you

I'll just wait until it inevitably shows up on the supply depot.

Dem flash sales and promotional sale...

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 04:32
#43
Aplauses's picture
Aplauses
Looks like everyone seems to forget.

Before:
Spend $9.95, you will get energy!

After:
Spend $9.95, you will get energy and a chance to get something else!

Three Rings is being generous.

If your luck is a mess, then just use all your CE that you got from the purchase and buy it from the AH.

The cosmetic/new things is just like Alchemy orb, you can get it for free if you are lucky. If you are not, then just use all crown that you get from the run and buy it from Supply Depot.

just my 2 cents

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 05:42
#44
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Thunder-The-Bright
gods ain't gonna help you, son.

I got a heart attack when I saw balance in the announcement section. when I was re-waken up by the necromancer in my closet, I actually cooled off when I saw a promo that gave you a shield that isn't obtainable anywhere else. great. well, at least it hasn't got that great stats. not even a status resist.

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