Who is the strongest?
Strongest Brandish Player in LD
I honestly can't put forward one player above the rest......so here's a few
Tmdals
Ezho
Icycute
Reflexology (Even though he doesn't use it often)
ContriOP hehehehe
And here's where I blank out.....
Are we talking with or without AT? 'cause that list ^^^^^ is pretty dependent on AT.
Without AT I'd say Redblades, or whatever his name is atm.
You can add Fayite on the list as well.
You say without AT and then name red and fay... they're good but they both use AT with brandish.
Best non-AT brandish user is Riinsei.
Best AT brandish user is Fayite.
I depends on how you read it. I meant you can add Fayite to the list above me, which is mostly AT.
Redblades has shown on multiple occasions how he can do brandish just as well without AT, check the no AT damage thread for example.
just responding to some of these
ezho - give anybody ctrvh bombs and theyll be as famous as him. hes good, but not the best at brandish
Tmdals - he uses more guns than anything. best hybrid would be a better title
reflex - no idea
icy - yup, shes a beast
fayite - eh sure, but i dont particularly respect people who use AT on their guns..
redblades - sure
u forgot sshadoow ;)
"Redblades has shown on multiple occasions how he can do brandish just as well without AT, check the no AT damage thread for example."
He doesn't use brandish in any of those videos...
Please, don't refer to 4 bar, 0 (or almost) ping, AT brandish as "skill".
Take away their stupid aimbot and they would all become 1/4 of the player they are.
Take away 1 bar from them and they would disappear from LD.
too bad its all part of the game, reto.
Well to be fair, AT is server side. Still, I don't think you're entirely incorrect. I, for one, lose my mind if I go down from 4 bars (Eu connection) to 2-3 (US connection).
Going down from a perfect connection to having a dodgy connection is always bogus. Players who play with constant lag learn to adapt to it and play accordingly. Players with the 0 ping connection obviously don't have to do this but if you took away their 0 ping THEN they have to adapt which takes time and is very hard in my opinion. As for the best brandish players ehm, all that I know have been listed above.
Also @hades, redblades did post a video on his youtube channel getting like 24k damage without AT while using combuster so it seems that he can use it without AT. However does he use it or not in a random match is debatable.
The fact that it's part of the game doesn't mean it's not stupid.
The thing that makes me sad is that these people are portrayed as "good" or "strong", when all they do is rely on a lame game mechanic.
Fyi : AT is broken if used by player who suffers latency...
So tecnically, Red-Blades son't use AT !?
If we use AT, we'll be missing every hits...
Is it? Please tell us how it's broken and show us some proof.
How AT is broken if latency hits :
#1 Even when you turn on AT, The AT will aim slower(That means when you aim your enemy, your AT will show up 1 - 1.5 sec later)
#2 When you hit that attack button while aiming at enemies when you're locking on to them, you'll miss them by an (in-game) inch.
#3 AT isn't that stable with latency because even when you move a little, your AT will vanish like magic...
Videos about latency AT :
Ask Fayeth or Qwao/Owao
#1 AT is server side. If it takes that long for the server to correct your aim, it's because it takes 1-1.5 sec for your client and the server to exchange information.
#2 How does that imply that AT is broken? If you miss and it looks like you're hitting the enemy while suffering 500-750ms ping, it's obviously because they're not where you're hitting.
#3 The only thing I know of that makes AT disappear is when you walk and wield a gun. Could that be the source of the problem, perhaps?
Asked Fayeth about vids, awaiting an answer patiently.
Edit: Fayeth has no AT videos. Could you get in touch with Qwao and ask them to post here? I don't think I know them at all.
I love how people think of AT as some sort of god mode in this forum. Like really cop on. Turn on AT yourself and do what the other AT players are doing(the good ones I mean). I can pretty much guarantee you'll get hammered into the wall against them even though you had AT on. You know why ? Because when you're using AT you also need some skill with it. You need to know how/when to dodge, when to strike and especially how to gun(which usually is even outside the scope of AT). I laugh at you people who say that players who play with AT aren't skilled because it's obvious that they are. If there is no skill involved in using AT then how come LD isn't full of Ezho's or Fayites ?
The original question was "who is the strongest?", which has nothing to do with skill.
I think any striker with a fully heated 5* brandish and maxed out damage bonus would be the strongest brandish user.
Don't be oblivious Nitronius.
The point is that AT makes a good player ridiculously OP.
I've seen most, if not all, of the AT players go back to being a regular 16k striker when they turn it off.
I remember "somebody" make a test about how weak AT is in a Guild Traning Hall...
And This is Owao/Qwao's playlist about latency :
Click me
Edit : You made the AT studies video LOL >.>
2nd Edit : Imma ask her to make a AT video...
I can do 20 pullups from a deadhang and bench a whopping 180 last I checked.
I use a leviathan though.
Am I the strongest?:)
*Edit: vote for Optimus Prime - Leader of the Autobots as strongest
Yeah, I'm not seeing anything out of place. If you can find anything, please do link to where in the video it is and I'll have a closer look.
Try challenging Funnybunnys and his CIV >.> He still can beat anyone with AT acheron , without AT ofc...
gonna highlight a few things i saw while skimming at 6 am on sleep medicine
- connection plays just as much a role in the game as knowing what your opponent's gonna do or having enough of a reaction time to where you can afford not knowing your opponent well enough; trying to argue one is more important than the other is like trying to decide what makes a peanut butter and jelly sandwich so delicious - the peanut butter or the jelly (for those who have nut allergies, we'll say ham and cheese [if you're allergic to cheese and nuts, enjoy your grass on a bun])
- AT only does so much to help a player before it starts to hinder them in other areas: for example, they may have an unparalleled 1v1 playstyle, but unless they toggle in group fights, chances are they're going to swing at whatever moves, which leaves them more than open on a variety of fronts, since their focus is gonna be on what they're aiming at, not on utilizing the entire screen area to get the job done. on top of that
- AT's a part of the game, no matter how much people complain about it. get over it. take the moral high road and don't use it, or take a detour to the limelight and use it. yeah it sucks that there's a no-AT variant of lockdown, but let's face it, so many people call each other noobs anyway that putting the playlist in would only propagate that sort of behavior and give everyone something else to be stroke each other with.
- whoever compiled the latency tests into a nice video playlist did a good job - asking them to perform a test themselves even though they've chosen to rely on third party testers to verify the information for them, and found it good enough to include in a playlist basically explaining how latency works in LD, is probably the third biggest waste of time they could do given the circumstances. the second waste of time would be having to add the video to the playlist in order to substantiate the findings already present, and the first place winner for waste of time goes to arguing this point themselves since i doubt they care enough to go through with any of it again, considering how touch-and-go the quality of java programming ends up being either intentionally or otherwise.
/twocents
p.s. wouldn't a proper comparison of who's better with a weapon line be appropriate if the weapons were equal in strength? last thing i'd like to see is someone blaming weapon choice as a reason for losi-
Yea yea yea...Long words and Big mouth...We get that you have a big mouth and a crappy attitude (>^_^)> WE GET THAT
- Who likes complaning about AT? Rookies and Ofc some part of Aurum →.→
-Your 2nd highlight is Way...way..way..way off...
-Shut up American !? You make me sick...This is the kind of American that makes me wanna puke on them...
I use hashtag instead of "/" like an a normal person
#Your2centsux
P.S Why dosen't every American be as nice as Kraky...
I didn't mention you being an American :D
P.S Why dosen't every American be as nice as Kraky..
Huh, didn't know Sweden was a part of the USA. Damn imperialism!
"yeah it sucks that there's a no-AT variant of lockdown, but let's face it, so many people call each other noobs anyway that putting the playlist in would only propagate that sort of behavior and give everyone something else to be stroke each other with."
If there was a Lockdown mode without AT I would never have anything playstyle related to complain about.
"Huh, didn't know Sweden was a part of the USA."
There's a warp portal which connects Sweden to the USA.
TIL words like "connection" and "comparison" are big words, that nationality determines everything, and that it's not hard to get hellscream pissed off enough to skip the point of a post and jump straight to insults
anyway, my points stand on the AT bits so yeah, let me know when you want to talk about those. i'll be sure to keep words to seven letters or less
on the point of the topic though:
-redblades top tier
-juma top tier
-icy top tier
-tm (when he used it) top tier
-exiled top tier
-ccrusader honorable mention (more proficient using the charge than anything else with it but he's been known to knock heads around anyway)
all i can think of off the top of my head
Pff, you make me laugh with your AT / No AT!
Check out this post !
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/98769 and
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/98768
With it, you may be prompted to think twice before you ever fight about who is the best ! Dog ! Soon this game will turn into war because of an option !
Oh please, best Brandish user? Leadmonkey
He'd thrash all of you simultaneously hahah, you don't even know!
He didn't even use AT! (Toggle for weird angles on third swing)
That dude was the definition of a brandish God. Unrivaled.
Ezho.