Spiral Knights - Most-hated Clockworks level.

Most-hated Clockworks level.

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Sun, 05/29/2011 - 10:17

Majikos

What are the Clockworks levels you most despise? The ones you're willing to sit around at the elevator for however long it takes for it to cycle on to something else, anything else.

Personally, after an insane Clockworks run last night it's probably Thunder Fist Arena. The unstoppable barrage of shock effects is pretty horrific, especially when it comes in the form of a dozen Gun Puppies and swarms of Volt Knights and Voltrodes. The fact that Shock interrupts weapon charging and shielding is particularly unkind. The devs have earned their mug of salty tears from me; we never stood a chance. D:

A close runner up is the Graveyard. Ugh, I hate Phantoms so much.

Sun, 05/29/2011 - 10:28

Providence

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I actually really like the

I actually really like the Graveyard.
I play it solo, so I only ever have to deal with one Phantom.

I hate anything with shock. And I do mean ANYTHING.

Sun, 05/29/2011 - 10:30

Raul

I hate shock, it's very

I hate shock, it's very cheap.

Sun, 05/29/2011 - 10:45

Ageatii

Oh Look A Real Topic

My death is usually certain in: Flame Lash Arena: Slimey Showdown, and Thunder Fist Arena: Fiendish Fray

I also despise Jigsaw Valley, but that has nothing to do with the Danger Level :)

Sun, 05/29/2011 - 10:48

nearo

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I don't have problems with levels per say,

Just any level with a greaver, HATE!
especially shock and flame greavers, but I don't like any of em.

Sun, 05/29/2011 - 11:50

Renesis

You know what's fun? Being

You know what's fun? Being frozen with a broken shield.

Sun, 05/29/2011 - 11:57

kakelgis

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Flame Lash Arena: Slimey

Flame Lash Arena: Slimey Showdown.

Usually, if you don't mess up, it's a fine level. But then you accidentally kill the gun puppies before the oilers, and they're already on fire, and then Gremlin Menders and two more oilers spawn, and you're on T3.

There's not really any other level that is annoying to me. If anything, I dislike Wolver Dens/Concrete Jungles/Devilish Drudgery for the low crown/heat rate.

Dark City or fiend levels can be really annoying on solo on T3, though.

Sun, 05/29/2011 - 12:20

Ilves

I want to avoid Devilish

I want to avoid Devilish Drudgery levels because they like to drop my Frames Per Second down to barely playable.

And now that I have to deal with both network lag AND low framerate, trying to block the myriads of chairs and stuff being tossed at me is a rather quick path to madness. YARGG.

Sun, 05/29/2011 - 12:34

Droganis

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Ditto

Shock sucks. Flames are doable, but can definitely tricky.

Right now, other than the aforementioned shock strata in Tier 3, I'd say the Jigsaw Valley levels. I'm not sure, but they seem to either spawn more than the others, or just don't have as much variety in level design. I've practically memorized the lay-out and monster spawns, so they are just booooring.

Oh, and deconstruction zones, mostly for the low heat/crowns. The mobs at the starting gate can be bad, too, but that's at least something of a challenge as opposed to the simple death that comes from a swarm of shock greavers.

Sun, 05/29/2011 - 12:48

Gwenyvier

My most hated levels are the

My most hated levels are the ones where I more or less end up throwing away 10 energy. Concrete Jungle, Wolver Dens, Jigsaw Valley Cravat Hall (1 and 2), Deconstruction Zones, and Devilish Drudgery (now that they changed the Yesmen to not drop goodies upon transform to Overtimers).

~Gwen

Sun, 05/29/2011 - 13:14

#10

sawa0122

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i consider shock is broken in

i consider shock is broken in this game. give you to choose any gear, you wouldn't find a way to kill the quick silvers without risking the whole bar of hp. it chains you, its not evadable, its not tankable, maybe some teamwork would magically work but still its not gonna be a flawless one. sides, long as its not solo-able, that's broken, right?

Sun, 05/29/2011 - 21:52

#11

Shue-Donnym

duhr

Infernal Passages. Greavers+insanely fast-flying Devilite staplers= RRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPEEEEEEEE
EDIT: Why are most of you scared of retrodes? Just GTFO the moment they rear their heads then beat the crap outta them during the cooldown.

Sun, 05/29/2011 - 17:23

#12

Eeks

T3 Deconstruction zone when

T3 Deconstruction zone when 12 of the pyro and 5 of the menders group up

http://www.4mul8.net/up/files/1194_mlvix/funn2.jpg
http://www.4mul8.net/up/files/1195_cd3rc/funnn.jpg

so fun

Sun, 05/29/2011 - 17:41

#13

Senshi

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Uhm...

Those pictures are why I always kill everything that's around the gate first and then work my way around the perimeter, making sure to kill the mender(s) in each group.

Also, yeah, thunderfist arena - fiendish fray. Also the cadaverous clash, because apparently -that- can spawn greavers too, which is highly unreasonable. Greavers are fiends not undead, durn it!

Infernal passages are not nearly so bad although they sometimes are too much for me in the shock flavor - but infernal passages give you a chance to lure the greavers away by ones or twos. Then they can be taken down. The arena traps you in the room with them...

Sun, 05/29/2011 - 17:43

#14

Eeks

uh.. there was nothing at the

uh.. there was nothing at the gate. They were all grouped up at the bottom of the map but thanks for the pro tips.

Sun, 05/29/2011 - 17:47

#15

Katmint

All Fiend and Shock levels,

All Fiend and Shock levels, especially when combined. On their own, Fiend is usually worse than Shock unless it's a Tier 3 Thunder Fist Arena.

Fire levels that contain Oilers also deserve a mention. :P

Sun, 05/29/2011 - 17:55

#16

Starcadet

SHOCK

Deconstruction Zones and ANYTHING with shock. Oh and arenas that include retrodes when they shoot those beams.

Sun, 05/29/2011 - 20:04

#17

Theonebackthere

List..

Greavers... =_= They remind me of grievers and they are soooooo annoying in packs. Oh yeah, also the Graveyard. Especially when my party ditches me when I get mobbed by 50 zombies and then I get piled by Phantoms. =_______= And the most annoying is floors that give extremely low Crowns/Heat/minerals/etc and are extremely stupid with stupid monster spawns that barely happen.

Sun, 05/29/2011 - 20:21

#18

hainekounare

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Speaking of hating shock, did

Speaking of hating shock, did anyone notice that the entirety of the Copper Bishop Gate is Shock except for Vanaduke?

ETA: And Dark Pawn AND Sapphire Rook, wtf?!

Sun, 05/29/2011 - 20:57

#19

Cobaltstarfire

Fiend levels, I still haven't

Fiend levels, I still haven't quite gotten down the proper timing to deal with these little...devils and their flying office supplies. That said, it gives me something to improve on. Grievers don't bug me that much, but I haven't been in T3 enough for them to make me cry for mercy. (I can say the Katts are horrifying though).

As far as status effects go, I'm not sure, on one hand I hate oilers, and love electrifying quicksilvers for the pinball action, but on the other hand, it's easier to use a cure tab on fire than on shock.

So I guess really I don't mind fire levels, as long as there aren't oilers, and I generally hate shock levels unless there are some quicksilvers around to kill everything for me.

Sun, 05/29/2011 - 21:41

#20

Pupu

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Levels with quicksilvers.
Levels with greavers.
Levels with devilites.

Sun, 05/29/2011 - 21:48

#21

ZealousD

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Thunder Fist Arena: Fiendish

Thunder Fist Arena: Fiendish Fray

Having 8 shock greavers on you is NOT FUN.

Sun, 05/29/2011 - 21:49

#22

Lithanium

*shiver*

I fear many things.

I have about 8. i will spare you of my fears. #6: beryl greavers. i see one, i dash back to the start of the level and type: /emote sucks on his finger like a baby.(shows as Lithanium sucks on his finger like a baby) #7, Graveyards unless its tier one, in which i make out like a bandit.

Sun, 05/29/2011 - 22:53

#23

Tive

all the clockworks tunnels

all the clockworks tunnels >->

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 00:17

#24

Elrick

Deconstruction zones. Too

Deconstruction zones. Too bugged and gremlins are annoying. I made a bug report on an aggro bug with scorchers.

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 00:41

#25

sawa0122

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so can we conclude that we

so can we conclude that we deserve a nerf on the grievers, quicksilver, oilers?
or do we need to bring our visa card to T3? is that what we're missing?

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 01:16

#26

Ginzaki

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Any floor with Grievers.

Any floor with Grievers. They're cheap, everything else is doable.

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 01:18

#27

sawa0122

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what's your tactic against T3

@Ginzaki what's your tactic against T3 quicksilver and oilers?

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 01:37

#28

Dirt

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Thunder Fist Arenas can be

Thunder Fist Arenas can be bad, but honestly slime danger rooms in the lower depths in a static stratum make me rage hard.

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 01:51

#29

Tive

Greavers are fine as long as

Greavers are fine as long as you can first swing spam with a flourish.
Danger rooms with oilers or quicksilvers though...
perhaps they are there to make up for how boring clockworks tunnels are.

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 02:08

#30

Ginzaki

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@sawa0122

Avoidance, and careful shield use. AKA Lot's of practice.

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 02:35

#31

sawa0122

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@Ginzaki

i assume your practice is with a grey owlite? cuz non-shock resistant shields break in 2~3 hits when they charge you in lightening speed which you can't avoid. lots of "patience" might give you slight hope but not all fights are taken in a room you can hide kite around, if its even kite-able to start with. perhaps i'm misunderstanding something here.

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 07:08

#32

Cobaltstarfire

I don't think anything needs

I don't think anything needs to be nerfed, there would be no challenge to the game if these things didn't exist. I welcome these things that instil fear into my heart with open arms.

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 10:42

#33

RelaxFierce

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flame

I don't hate anything.

(tier 3)flame lash arena - slimeway seemed inappropriately challenging to me.

i made my spiral knight step onto the party button, alone. Two flame puppies and three oilers spawned.

The oilers got lit in the first shot by the flame-puppies, and after the first revive, i managed to have my knight use a clear-status pill. After that i just clicked the return to haven button after my knight fell.

It didn't seem to me that it was meant to be winnable, honestly.

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 12:04

#34

Dangerrmouse

Fiends are the only real

Fiends are the only real problem I have.

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 12:41

#35

Drunkefox

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HATE

yea we hate a lot of thing but it would be stuped to take them out even tho they are irritating its still part of the difficulty of the lvl

(the best way to kill poppy guns is to stay at the edges of the stage right as they spawn this way they wont start shooting and all you have to do is kill them from behind 1 by 1)

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 13:10

#36

jooozek

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Anything with tier3

Anything with tier3 quicksilvers and with too many devilites, t3 freeze/shock arenas, any stage that gets my fps so low that i get input lag.

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