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Fri, 04/18/2014 - 18:52
Jekryth's picture
Jekryth

Hello everyone, this is Sound Of Rebellion's GM speaking.
Organizing a massive event with 350,000 crowns prize pool.
No entry fee required.
Call your friends, guildies, pets, parents, relatives, sandwiches.
This is your chance to show everyone who is the PvE king.
Visit this link for details - http://goo.gl/b9Ut7a

Participants so far: (65 left to signup)

Spacmanz
El-Monstruo
Blazer-Of-Troy
Mcdp
Vtmoon

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 19:20
#1
Darkcub's picture
Darkcub
BAN

BAN

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 19:50
#2
Fangel's picture
Fangel
That sounds like it could take a while

Seeing as many players already do this exact thing without dying, it could takes days to produce a winner.

And why aren't you showing love for the hammers? :( If anything you should be banning brandishes.
I don't know many other hammer users who can use it effectively and not die.

Also, what difficulty is it on?

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 21:08
#3
Hrpb's picture
Hrpb
May The Energy Be With You! ^_^

.............20% of the Pool of crowns go to the SOR treasury......O.o I really feel iffy about his for some reason...

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 21:57
#4
Qwez's picture
Qwez
............

Troika.
Kamarin.
Khorovod.
Sudaruska.
Grintovec.
Jalovec.
Triglav.
Hatchet.
Heavy Hatchet.
Mighty Great Cleaver.
Frozen Great Cleaver.

............Really? I would think that you would let people use these instead of Brandishes and Flourishes or something...... I guess it's just to try to sucker in the target group. I dunno... letting people use whatever they want would make this never end, and the guild will get their treasury funds from the beginning and only the rep will take a hit if they fail to comply. (or there may be GM action)

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 22:01
#5
Midnight-Dj's picture
Midnight-Dj
:/

This looks more like a robbery than a contest...

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 22:29
#6
Sweet-Hope's picture
Sweet-Hope

why not in the shock fiendish arena? that one would be really interesting :3<

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 22:22
#7
Skepticraven's picture
Skepticraven
↓

Expecting somewhere around 210 entries for that prize?
Hammers not allowed, but brandishes are? Heart pendants allowed?
EU server only [I'm limited to 1-2 connection bar]?
What incentives are there for players to actually beat the boss before they kill their teammates [Best strategy: Sit at the elevator boycotting advancing until competitors leave]?
Where is the teamwork? This IS a team based game that can be done solo, not a solo game that can be done with a team.

But the one that gets me....

Bosses only?
Those have been a joke since I was a new vanguard, even with my entire team dead/playing against me [My friends have some entertaining games we play. LOTS of fun using shock weapons in IMF].
I'll take a pass on the contest unless it is heavily revised.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 23:42
#8
The-Worst-Knight's picture
The-Worst-Knight
He don't have an avatar on

He don't have an avatar on the forum and his guild doesn't have page on the wiki.

- there's no going back once the fee is paid
- Pairs will randomly be sorted out as soon as 210 participants will show
-If some participant in a pair isn't online after 60 days, he's automatically kicked and the remaining challengers run normally. If all participants in a pair are offline after 60 days, that party will be cancelled and all challengers in it will be eliminated.

Collect as much as possible and do nothing, i don't think that you will find 210 players and that 210 players will wait you to spectate.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 23:52
#9
Bucking's picture
Bucking
bah, dont think anyone will

bah, dont think anyone will bother join this, 210 participant? da hell

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 00:23
#10
Theirillusion's picture
Theirillusion

entry fee... damn.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 00:36
#11
Blue-Flood's picture
Blue-Flood

Props on trying to start a contest like this!

Unfortunately I think you're in over your head with the enormity of this project. Best to start out with something small and simple before going to something large (210 people? wow imagine the mini-gripe fires you'd have to put out for an event that big). Starting something small will help get your feet wet in the contest field, and it will help you build a reputation and get your name out there so that in due time people will WANT to be part of your events.

At first I thought this was a Shadow Lair competition, but I'd have to agree with Skepticraven on a few of the issues. The normal bosses are way too easy. And hosting it on EU only will SEVERELY limit the amount of people that might be interested in this type of thing. The biggest obstacle you might have will be the length of time it takes to run this event. With the amount of competitors and boss runs you're hoping for, this thing could take literally years if you're trying to line up people's schedules to be on at the same time.

Perfect example - Feller/Contri have been running a 16 man 1v1 tournament that was started in January...
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/95392

Best of luck in the future though.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 02:32
#12
Thunder-The-Bright's picture
Thunder-The-Bright
gods ain't gonna help you, son.

this constest makes me laugh.
hammers aren't allowed, but you can go CTR max nitrome and blind the screen of your opponents, and that would be legit while blinding others and probably making them go into spikes, enemies, or shadow fire.
also, why is the troika line not allowed? because knockback? nitrome. because damage? it's not funny.
and then the entry fee, that has the potentiality to become a scam, and tha will probably get you a warning.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 15:05
#13
Jekryth's picture
Jekryth
Let's consider some more things then

Alright, I read all the comments. I have to say I was 100% about some people thinking this was scam just because my guild is not famous hurr durr. Yes, I am talking to you. Second thing, you are right: I just realized EU servers only is a mad idea, and since the host will be dead during the run, USA servers should do no harm to the contest. Third thing, I know this might take even more than 6 months to be completed and that we are giving NO possibility to assure the participants that this isn't scam, and we can't do anything about it, but really, be honest, I have already received a game moderator warning for this, do you really think I'd risk a ban on my account to drop 35k crowns in the guild treasury? If you think that's it, I have no words then. I could earn five times more that amount in one day just grinding, why would I bother organizing a fake competition that could last 6 months just to steal something that I could earn in a few hours, knowing that it would cause a horrible reputation knockback on my guild? That just totally makes no sense at all. Last thing, we forgot to state that all runs will be held in Elite mode. And we are AWARE that people will try to sit back and get carried by others. But there are unavoidable battles and someone must carry the party anyway, however, to make it clear, we're adding a time deadline for every run, that link is going to be updated soon. Thanks for the constructive tips though, WE HAVE REVISED AND CHANGED A LOT OF THINGS, please check the link out again.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 23:38
#14
Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

I'm more interested in why you think sudaruska is the end all be all. Not even gonna question the concept of having everyone run the royal jelly until IRL/Lag/Drunkeness/random chance/angry nitronome destroyer kicks in and drags people away from their spot as champion one by one until we have crowned the rightful king of blast bomb terrorism and validated their strange commitment to the tournament.

Sudaruska is good and can be just as good as the brandish lines (with considerable practice), but OP enough to get banned from use on the jelly king for something like this? Whatever you're smoking I want some.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 13:19
#15
Neometal's picture
Neometal
TLL

So eye could go w/ +12 hp using my 2 True Love Lockets? Hell yeah, I'm in!

/jk
idc

I aggree wit the others above me, u rly should consider changing the list of the non-allowed stuff.... I mean, there are every so many weapons with which you can own monsters and/or screw up others in the party. And it is NOT the troika-line.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 13:39
#16
Poomph's picture
Poomph
Such rules. So hammer. Much logic.

I really wanted to put my Thwack hammer to good use. /cry

In all seriousness though, the limitations on this contest lack logic. Spam Blitz, Combuster, and FF all day, but no Cleavers? Lolok, that's cool. No battle sprite? Ok, sure, I didn't pour 100kcr into Apotheosis for looks, he's a battle sprite. Keyword: Battle.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 15:12
#17
Jekryth's picture
Jekryth
Considered more stuff

Updated, thanks for the suggestions again, but battle sprites are staying out.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 15:58
#18
Poomph's picture
Poomph
/facepalm

Instead of allowing heavy swords, he decides to take out Nitronome and Big Angry Bomb, and refuses to allow battle sprites. What's the worse that could happen, Sera helps party members? Someone cloaks for 15 seconds, then has to go back to fighting?

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 16:41
#19
Autofire's picture
Autofire
You are experiencing a PICNIC ERROR!

Can I ask you to clarify? Can I use a Shock Burst Brandish? Can I use a Gift of Autumn? If you want to ban all max HP trinkets, say no HP increase trinkets are allowed. If you want to say no Brandishes, say it. I ask that you don't list them. I'm sorry for joining the crowd when I'm being so critical. I intend to join but I want a few more details first.

I shall say that it hurts my chances to not be able to use my Drakon. It's a key part of my fighting style; I regularly Firebolt.

I want to make sure my build is allowed...so I'll post it! I will probably use this both in RJP and IMF.

Volcanic Salamander Mask
Mercurial Mail
Mighty Shell
Dread Venom Striker
Obsidian Carbine
Ash of Agni
Royal Jelly Band

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 18:14
#20
Sweetsundere's picture
Sweetsundere
Not going to join

Brandish line is banned eh? So glad you never said anything in the rules about Obsidian Edge!

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 21:23
#21
Mystrian's picture
Mystrian
Carry on with you contest.

"Brandish line is banned eh?"

I think OP means brandish charges. You'll probably be fine with brandish normal attacks though.

Reading over other replies in this thread, it seems you want us to run bosses, unequip battle sprites,, and no trinkets. Anything I missed?

Huh seems like no download at all (double checked) nvm

Oh theres time on the runs?,,,well have fun then

"destinated"

*snicker*

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 21:47
#22
Pandafishie's picture
Pandafishie

Notice how the total crown prize value decreases on a daily basis....

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 02:46
#23
Jekryth's picture
Jekryth
@Pandafishie

Prize pool got hit once due to participants number decreased from 210 to 70, I have no idea what you mean.

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 02:53
#24
Neometal's picture
Neometal
dun dun dun

No brandishes? Damn.... guess I'll have to stick to max ctr/dmg dark retro spamming (like i always do on there).

/jk, i still dont care about this

U still need to reconsider ur list.

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 05:03
#25
Mystrian's picture
Mystrian
Time limit?

You need to factor in lagging. Like running into walls for and getting stuck for 2 mins.

If your "contest didn't have time limits, i'd do it.

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 05:14
#26
Midnight-Dj's picture
Midnight-Dj
:/

Am I the only one who thinks that this competition needs to be revised?

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 07:21
#27
Hrpb's picture
Hrpb
May The Energy Be With You! ^_^

@midnight-dj I agree

Firsty, I wouldn't categorize this event as a "MASSIVE" one. Nj and Digi's Art contest, that's massive.269k E in prizes.

Secondly, You should never make people pay just to join a contest.

Thirdly, Remaining 10% will be destinated to SOR treasury. This makes this whole thing a Scam, sorry, but its true.

If you really want to host a true and honorable event, ALL of the crowns collected should be given BACK to the PUBLIC. Not your OWN guild.

That's why people are questioning you this harshly. I hope you rethink this whole thing first.

Anyway, this is just a suggestion. Im not saying you should do this or that. It's all Still up to you.

I wish you the best of luck :]

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 08:34
#28
Pandafishie's picture
Pandafishie

+1 Hrbp's
Also, 60 days... Er that's a long time.

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 08:56
#29
Autofire's picture
Autofire
You are experiencing a PICNIC ERROR!

I agree with Hrpb.

Asking for a fee, and such a steep fee, is the best way to ensure that people won't join. Clearly, this is a fund-raiser for you guild. You should say that out-right.

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 01:02
#30
Hrpb's picture
Hrpb
May The Energy Be With You! ^_^

I just finished a giveaway myself yesterday, why dont you take a look at how I did it eh? You Could Copy It if you want :)

No Entry Fee. Just Pure Fun ^_^

Giveaway Announcement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpv59yT53V0

Results: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGZhNDxFkMQ

And again, this is just a "suggestion".

May The Energy Be With You! ^_^

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 03:48
#31
Mystrian's picture
Mystrian
Hmm

So your saying if all three knights stay alive for the whole run, they run the same boss again? 3 experienced players=unlimited runs of the same boss and noone progressing :)

Revise this to getting hit once. That way if your health drops once, your out (health increase/recovery items are not allowed)

Question about entry fee, will we have to pay 5,000 each run? Lol

Count me in the...i guess

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 13:50
#32
Riverock's picture
Riverock
So, Grand Ring is allowed,

So, Grand Ring is allowed, right?

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 14:00
#33
Avenger-Of-Troy's picture
Avenger-Of-Troy
May I sign up?

My IGN is blazer-of-troy.

Also the hammer thing is so that you dont put an AFK competitor in a spike.

Isn't that obivious?

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 14:12
#34
Klipik-Forum's picture
Klipik-Forum
Soo.. loadouts can still be OP

RJP:
Chaos Set
Elite Boom trinket
Piercing defense trinket
Divine Avenger
Obsidian Carbine
Dark Retribution
Barbarous Thorn Shield

IMF:
Mercurial Set
Sword damage trinket (2x)
Divine Avenger
Valiance
[not sure what for 3rd weapon]
Grey Owlite Shield

FSC:
Vog Cub Set
Sword damage trinket
Gun CTR trinket
Divine Avenger
Argent Peacemaker
Plague Needle
Gorgomega

If you wanted to ban OP weapons, you have a long way to go with that list. Also, agreed, the tournament will probably never get past the RJP stage.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 06:43
#35
Jekryth's picture
Jekryth
I never stop revising stuff, since I do care about your opinions

Okay so, Mystrian, if 3 players are really experienced why would they kill the boss over and over again lol, would be so dumb, if I was one of them, I'd just wait for the others to die, like an arena survival or something.
Alright so, I'll be honest, I am too busy during these days to even launch my SK, and we have no time to find more participants. Now feel free to fill this topic with hate lmao.
Soooooooo. I decided.
I am gonna lower the entry fee from 5,000 to 0.
Gonna ban "Chaos Cowl/Chaos Cloak" and "Grand Solstice Ring".
So 350k crowns is the winner prize and yeah, our guild will provide it.
However, the word "massive" is there simply to attract people, I am totally aware this is not massive.
Plus, I have to fight against the dumb statement "35k crowns makes me think this is a scam and it's a fund-raiser for your guild hurr durr".
Jesus, do you think I'd risk my account AND my guild reputation for that amount? The hell? I just wanna see blood!
So yeah, feel free to sign up now and please let me know if there's still overpowered stuff to ban that I didn't consider.
Link updated. ^w^

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 09:43
#36
Avenger-Of-Troy's picture
Avenger-Of-Troy
So...

My IGN is Blazer-Of-Troy.

And if there's free money I want a chance to earn it,

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:06
#37
Poomph's picture
Poomph
I was hoping from some improvement. I guess not.

Seriously? Seerusly? Siriusly?

So hold on, you're banning Nitronome, but you're also banning BAB for what? Blinding people? Cool, I'll just bring Heavy Deconstructer. No. No. Don't go banning Heavy Deconstructer too. Instead, just let everyone use everything. If people are truly skilled, they'll be able to deal with it. And what's up with no Torto shields? I fought those damn things for a reason.

...And Battle Sprites still aren't allowed. u srs bro

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:09
#38
Sandwich-Potato's picture
Sandwich-Potato

*Brings Mad Bomber, BKC, GF, DA, Levi, CIV, Gift of Autumn, Suda/Triglav, Pulsar, Catalyzer, Deconstructor, Alchemers, Mist Bombs, Vortex,*

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 20:00
#39
Blue-Flood's picture
Blue-Flood

I'd love to participate now that it's free to the community... but the OP already said he doesn't have time to even launch his own SK, and his attitude doesn't really make me feel to be a welcome participant. Why place bans/restrictions on anything? It's another qualification that limits the amount of people that even could join. Not everyone has been playing enough to have several 4 or 5 star sets. Way too many rules methinks.

I suppose if Jesus did read this thread he might have some questions...

Good luck to the rest of you though!

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 22:19
#40
Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

^Lol, part of OP's not logging in is probably because we all just came on and beat him up for making his competition oddly.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 05:29
#41
Jekryth's picture
Jekryth
Facepalm

Mah, just trying to give people the chance to have a bit of fun instead of letting them run 10 times FSC per day or camping in Haven all the time selling [cogs].
If you have the chance to waste time of your life by throwing bull[scrap] on a little videogame contest, got no real words.
And what the hell, how old are you Fehzor? "Lol we came in and beat him dawg dass y he doesn't login" you practically said that. Think what you want anyway.
If you're not interested in this competition, why not keep running your dear FSC 10 times a day instead and keep minding your business?
If you can't do better than me, then shut up. If you can, then provide assistance instead.
If you're only going to post [scrap] or hate comments, everything's useless, now don't come up saying what I already think you're going to say...
And Poomph, banning heavy deconstructor? All I have to say is lol wth?
Battle sprites ARE staying out, whatever you keep saying, and I decided to ban torto shields on my own.
-> If you aren't interested in participating in this crap then DON'T. It won't change my life. But don't be an annoyer at least. Thank you. <-

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 01:31
#42
Midnight-Dj's picture
Midnight-Dj
TRIPLE FACEPALM

This is a community based competition, this is not your work alone Jekryth, without the community, your competition will be non existance, you reminded me alot of lordpatch and Mawashingmachine who are just like you. All of you refuse to acknowledge the words of others are all you ever cared about is your self, controlling others to achieve your own goal, if that is case, then don't expect me or anyone on the forum to participate, I hate it when people close their ears when they hear the negatives and turn on the blinders, igorance is the reason why there is toxicity, and since Einstien said that human stupidity is infinite, then there will always be toxicity.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 05:20
#43
Jekryth's picture
Jekryth
Are you kidding me?

All I have to say is what the [honk]?
If I didn't care about the unfaithful community I would first of all never organized this contest and posted it on forums, and I wouldn't have changed a single thing if I didn't care about other people opinions, don't just throw random Einstein [snipe rubbish] because you can, meh.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 07:15
#44
Mystrian's picture
Mystrian

One of the reasons people think gear is overpowered is because certain armor and weapon come "out of the box" so to speak, with bonuses (not the yellow unique variants). So I kind of see why Jekryth banned certain equipment. I also think we should run only with gear that don't have bonuses but they also have to be at heat level 4 or below (to keep them from getting heat level 5 or lvl 10 bonuses..

While I am thinking about your competition, you also have to think of other people. Maybe they think the game should just be played for what they think is fun and enjoyable.

Technically, the whole clockworks can be done entirely in proto set (heat lvl 1), but that would take quite a while and without proper spacing, you will die one or multiple times.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 08:05
#45
Blue-Flood's picture
Blue-Flood

There are things that can be said for an event organizer that swears like crazy at replies on the forums.

Yep.

Things :)

Sat, 04/26/2014 - 06:40
#46
Mcdp's picture
Mcdp
Too late to sign up?

I'll sign up and btw..
I'll go in gunner or swordsman or bomber

Sat, 04/26/2014 - 21:05
#47
Coalitu's picture
Coalitu
Jekryth

Complaints:

Midnight-Dj is right, that wasn't random Einstein bull[scrap]. (this is what I think) You didn't make this contest because you care about the community, you made it so people can know about your guild. Now you're too overwhelmed to respond to all the "hate" from people. As for the having fun instead of doing FSC 10 times a day comment, THIS IS NOT FUN. I can solo JK in proto armor without dying; with the restrictions you have, all you're gonna get(and may have already) are skilled players who can do the same. Doing T2 runs and waiting months for a prize(that could be easily obtained in the amount of time actually waiting for it...) sounds irritating as hell.

Suggestions:

1) It's hard to tell if people can still participate, I noticed you said there's 67 people left but does that mean 67 people left to join or compete?
2) You should give more info on how to join the contest too, this thread just looks like a big discussion.
3) I'm really confused as to why you have Acheron and Obsidian Edge banned but not GF or DR. Those two are the basic weapons for JK runs.
4) Automatic elimination for D/C seems a little harsh. Since you can die while disconnected, the player should only be eliminated if that happens(which will be quick because I would get that player killed fast).

Advice:

Try not to insult the disappointed people so much, it makes your whole guild look bad. It might not seem like it but they generally just want to help and make sure they're not wasting time. No one leaves a post here without a reason.

Sorry this post was so long, I can tell you don't like to waste time. If you did, however, take time out of your day to read this post i'd like to thank you. Good luck with the contest :)

Sat, 04/26/2014 - 21:15
#48
Gianor's picture
Gianor
The Perfect Competition:

Nothing mainstream allowed at all; any set of gear that is used or preferred by the majority of players is not allowed.
^^^^^^+1billion - 1billion x infinity / zero

Sun, 04/27/2014 - 01:55
#49
Jekryth's picture
Jekryth
@Coalitu

Wrong. I didn't set this contest up to get people to know my guild, think what you want anyway.

1) That's true, should make it more clear, will do, thanks.
2) I can't say you're wrong on this one too.
3) Well, I just consider any brandish charged attack an easy no-skilled way to plow through everything.
4) Made it more clear, thanks. We meant D/C as leaving the party, not like having the red plug icon on your head.

I am not sure about when or where I insulted someone, if you consider the words "what the [honk]" and "[snipe rubbish]" as personal insults, I apologize, but I don't. I'd never dare to insult someone personally for no reason, I just tend to get a bit altered when people call me ignorant and selfish using other people's words. Guess I'll have to watch my language even more strictly though, while a lot of other people don't. (Blueflood: "there are things that can be said to an event organizer that -> swears like crazy <-" Swears like crazy? When and where? Mmh, you probably never witnessed someone swearing like crazy then.)
No one leaves a post reasonlessly? Lol? How about Fehzor's second comment? Darkcub? Pandafishie? I don't believe that one.
If I didn't "want to waste time", I wouldn't be responding here or applying changes to the contest, so I don't consider a waste of time replying to posts like yours, au contraire, I like it when people explain me their opinions in a constructive way, and this is the case.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 04:19
#50
President-Trump
What?

Almost all usable swords are on the list.
Not allowing Nitronome and Big Angry Bomb but Irontech is OK?
Not allowing any Tortdrone promotion shields? How do those shields even give any advantages besides the movement speed decrease[?], but yet Omega Shield is allowed?!
Grand Soltice Ring? Who even uses that? Not allowed because of the HP bonus? So I guess Gift of Autumn is ok.
Chaos Set not allowed but BKC is? What is the logic behind this?
Why isn't the hammer allowed? People either know how to use it or kill themselves with it.

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